Good move by USF, and classy, no whine statement by UConn's AD and Coach Edsall. Here's how a big-time program like UConn maturely addresses a school facing hurricane issues:

"Obviously we are disappointed for our team and our fans at the cancellation of a home game,” UConn athletic director David Benedict said in a statement. “Our thoughts are with USF and all of the areas in the path of this storm. We wish them all the best as they deal with this terrible storm and are here ready to assist in any way that we can.”

UConn coach Randy Edsall said in a statement, “I know both our team and USF were excited about a chance to play this weekend. We certainly are disappointed, but clearly understand that this is something totally out of everyone’s control. I hope that Coach Strong, his team and the entire community impacted by this storm remain safe and know that we are thinking about them as they deal with this.”

http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/bulls/usf-...ff/2336677

Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

(09-07-2017 07:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

Well, it's a little bit different. UConn and USF are in the same division, if the game doens't get played this year, USF will be back in 2 years. USF fans hope that the Bulls will be ranked in 2 years when they're in East Hartford too.

How often will Arkansas State host a team of Miami's caliber?

(09-07-2017 07:45 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 07:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

Well, it's a little bit different. UConn and USF are in the same division, if the game doens't get played this year, USF will be back in 2 years. USF fans hope that the Bulls will be ranked in 2 years when they're in East Hartford too.

How often will Arkansas State host a team of Miami's caliber?

See, i view that as an irrelevant difference, as it has to do with desire to play football, which should be meaningless in this context. That's the whole problem with ArkST's response, it's focused on their disappointment at not playing a Big Time Football Game Versus a High Caliber Opponent. Which is a really dumb thing to be thinking about right now.

A relevant difference would be something like "well, USF has less of an excuse to cancel than Miami, because Tampa isn't supposed to be affected by the hurricane as much as Miami". Because that difference pertains to the only thing that matters, the hurricane. Of course, that difference actually justifies Miami's decision even more, and it highlights UConn's classiness compared to ArkState's petulance.

(09-07-2017 07:45 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 07:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

Well, it's a little bit different. UConn and USF are in the same division, if the game doens't get played this year, USF will be back in 2 years. USF fans hope that the Bulls will be ranked in 2 years when they're in East Hartford too.

How often will Arkansas State host a team of Miami's caliber?

My guess is not as often as they would have had they not acted like spoiled children over this situation.

*^&%$#@$% - I hate Uconn but that was exactly the right thing to say and do - Bravo UConn.

I do think any team canceling an away game are nothing but chicken poo since you would know for sure that your football team would be out of town and safe from a hurricane. Should boycott schools who do that.

So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

I'm inclined to believe that even if Arkansas State was the good samaritan reincarnated, their phones weren't lighting up at all to have major programs play them to "make this right."

Squeaky wheel gets the grease. It's a lose-lose situation for Arkansas State, but, if you actually had some honor among this power cartel, AState could actually be bigger and better about this. Granted, Miami is the one school willing to do this with AState, and ASU blows it with them (and others), but, where are you seeing majors returning those favors?

(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

The American Athletic Conference Football Champion will be decided by a game played between the East
and West division champions. A division champion shall be the team with the highest winning percentage
in all Conference games both divisional and non-divisional. A tie football game shall count as half-a-game
won and half-a-game lost in the standings.

(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?

(09-08-2017 06:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?

It wouldn't surprise me if AAC logistics geeks were running models to see if one or both games can be rescheduled.

(09-08-2017 06:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?

It's probably too late now but I would have had Memphis and UConn play this weekend instead of Oct 6th. Both UCF and USF are off on Oct 6th and this week's games could have been made up then.

(09-07-2017 08:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 07:45 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 07:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

Well, it's a little bit different. UConn and USF are in the same division, if the game doens't get played this year, USF will be back in 2 years. USF fans hope that the Bulls will be ranked in 2 years when they're in East Hartford too.

How often will Arkansas State host a team of Miami's caliber?

My guess is not as often as they would have had they not acted like spoiled children over this situation.

what did they do?

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(09-08-2017 07:06 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 08:16 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 07:45 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-07-2017 07:09 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  Arkansas State has come out looking awful.

Classy move by UCONN.

I imagine this will not go unnoticed by other ADs, and I have no doubt Arkansas State's hissy fit will also not go unnoticed.

Well, it's a little bit different. UConn and USF are in the same division, if the game doens't get played this year, USF will be back in 2 years. USF fans hope that the Bulls will be ranked in 2 years when they're in East Hartford too.

How often will Arkansas State host a team of Miami's caliber?

My guess is not as often as they would have had they not acted like spoiled children over this situation.

what did they do?

Sent from my SM-J700T using CSNbbs mobile app

Bitched and moaned about a game being cancelled by a natural disaster.

(09-08-2017 06:58 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 06:40 PM)ken d Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 05:43 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 03:26 PM)megadrone Wrote:  

(09-08-2017 01:31 PM)ken d Wrote:  So that is two AAC conference games cancelled. What impact does that have on the conference/division races? Any chance that they can be rescheduled for later in the season?

Could USF-@UConn be moved to week 6, and Memphis-@UCF to week 11? USF and Memphis could swap bye weeks in weeks 6 and 11.

It could be significant -- possibly.

There are only two teams in the East that could content with USF -- UCF and Temple. UCF's game is also canceled. UConn will play the same number of conference games as USF and UCF. But Temple, ECU and Cincinnati will play one more. What happens if 2 teams that played a different number of conference games have the same number of losses? What's the tiebreaker there? The team with the better winning percentage?

Is that scenario even covered?

It is covered: AAC rules say if team X is 7-1 and team Z is 6-1, team X wins the division even if Z beat X head to head. Winning percentage determines the champ, so USF, UConn, UCF, and Memphis are now at a disadvantage.

Of course, in some situations, it might be an advantage. E.g., imagine if Tennessee was in contention for the SEC East title and had their game with Alabama canceled. Since that would be almost a certain loss, it would help their division chances to miss playing that game. But I don't think that situation exists in the AAC scenarios here.

What about my second question? Could those games be rescheduled as I described, which wouldn't affect any other school?

It's probably too late now but I would have had Memphis and UConn play this weekend instead of Oct 6th. Both UCF and USF are off on Oct 6th and this week's games could have been made up then.

UCF is scheduled to host Cincinnati that week. But because USF played San Jose St in Week 0, they have two bye weeks - Week 6 and Week 11 - to work with. Maybe that will help.