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Poll: Which group is the most famous?
Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, Duke, Indiana/UCLA
Alabama, Ohio State, Notre Dame, USC, OU/Michigan/UT
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The Brand of College Athletics
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The poll question is nuanced. Do not take it as if I'm saying, "WHICH SPORT RULEZZZZZ AMERICASS!!!1111elven". This poll would be far better suited in a non-sports forum. But I wanted to try it here first. I'm genuinely interested in this question because the data obtained could point towards a regional bias that I did not think I had. I cannot see how in a million years some random dude off the street would answer Alabama or USC before Kentucky or North Carolina when asked what college sport's team can you name.


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(09-06-2017 03:23 PM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Fact: Kentucky and North Carolina football brings in more revenue to their schools than their dynastic basketball programs.

Fact: Ostriches can run faster than horses, and the males can roar like lions.

This poll is not concerned with the financial machinery of football, it's trying to extract an unbiased account of brand recognition irrespective of sports sponsored or excelled at. Once the data is obtained, then we can try and make a conclusion.


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(09-06-2017 02:40 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 02:17 PM)AndShock Wrote:  The answer is probably #2 but #1 is definitely who comes to mind first.

Quote:I want you to tell me which group stands out to you as the most famous

I want this to be personal to each voter. Vote your first inclination. For me it was very easy. I couldn't have even named the top 5 brands of college football without looking them up. The top 4 from the first group are seared into my brain - and I'm not happy about it one bit.

I suspect that if you asked random American's on the street who barely follow college athletics, what school's name popped into their head when you first mentioned college, I bet they would say North Carolina or Kentucky. I'd be willing to bet big money on it.


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That wouldn't even be true in eastern north carolina
09-06-2017 03:36 PM
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(09-06-2017 03:24 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  The poll question is nuanced. Do not take it as if I'm saying, "WHICH SPORT RULEZZZZZ AMERICASS!!!1111elven". This poll would be far better suited in a non-sports forum. But I wanted to try it here first. I'm genuinely interested in this question because the data obtained could point towards a regional bias that I did not think I had. I cannot see how in a million years some random dude off the street would answer Alabama or USC before Kentucky or North Carolina when asked what college sport's team can you name.


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Football brands go a lot further than basketball..

even in the 30 for 30 documentary the big east ADs say they couldnt compete with that despite being viewed as the best basketball conference

literally football defines some states..in the election they refered to southern states as the SEC states

another example is the great football school/subpar basketball schools have recruits elite ball players from their football brand (bama and usc as examples). if bama football didnt exist, bama wouldnt be constantly pulling elite 100 recruits...but on the other side, being good in basketball means absolutely nothing on the football side
09-06-2017 03:47 PM
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(09-06-2017 03:47 PM)pesik Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 03:24 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  The poll question is nuanced. Do not take it as if I'm saying, "WHICH SPORT RULEZZZZZ AMERICASS!!!1111elven". This poll would be far better suited in a non-sports forum. But I wanted to try it here first. I'm genuinely interested in this question because the data obtained could point towards a regional bias that I did not think I had. I cannot see how in a million years some random dude off the street would answer Alabama or USC before Kentucky or North Carolina when asked what college sport's team can you name.


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Football brands go a lot further than basketball..

even in the 30 for 30 documentary the big east ADs say they couldnt compete with that despite being viewed as the best basketball conference

literally football defines some states..in the election they refered to southern states as the SEC states

another example is the great football school/subpar basketball schools have recruits elite ball players from their football brand (bama and usc as examples). if bama football didnt exist, bama wouldnt be constantly pulling elite 100 recruits...but on the other side, being good in basketball means absolutely nothing on the football side

UCONN recognized the writing on the wall. That's exactly why UCONN flipped on the C7 and aligned with the Big East football schools.
09-06-2017 03:52 PM
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Personally, if I was asked to name the top brands in college athletics, more fball brands would be on my list. The only predominantly bball brands that immediately come to mind are UNC, Duke, UK, KU, and UCLA/UCONNW compared to at least double that number for fball. Interestingly enough, I grew up in IL as a bball fan as did many of my peers. Someone on FB noted about six months ago how fball has surpassed bball in popularity amongst our kiddo's generation.

We drove around the Southeast and Midwest this summer and listened to local sports stations along the way. There was way more fball talk on Memorial Day weekend on our trip from AL to Chicago (through AL, TN, KY, IN and IL). Obviously bball talk would have been more of a draw in season, but college fball seems to draw interest year round. This is my $.02 anyway as a midwestern bball fan growing up to a bigger fball fan who still enjoys following bball. YMMV
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**UPDATE!**

I spoke with a non-collegiate sports fan over the weekend, she didn't know **** about anything in college athletics but she did recognize several of the teams in the "Kentucky, North Carolina, Kansas, Duke, Indiana/UCLA" group. She's also not really a Kansas person having spent a decade overseas.


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I may be particularly biased in this poll.

While football fans see Alabama as the Mecca, they seem to me like a DII school after how they got embarrassed trying to poach Gregg Marshall from Wichita State. Everybody but the football coach flew to Wichita on private jets with suitcases full of money; I'm talking the president, the AD, etc. But Alabama's laughable basketball program made it difficult for even a top 5 national basketball coach to think he could have success. They suck so bad that $4 million seemed wayyy too low. I can never have respect for Alabama because of the desperation and total failure they showed in little ol' Wichita, Kansas.

So because of this, Alabama's brand is greatly tainted in my eyes. I would consider Ohio State far superior in branding which obviously doesn't reflect current football championship game success.


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(09-11-2017 11:21 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  I may be particularly biased in this poll.

While football fans see Alabama as the Mecca, they seem to me like a DII school after how they got embarrassed trying to poach Gregg Marshall from Wichita State. Everybody but the football coach flew to Wichita on private jets with suitcases full of money; I'm talking the president, the AD, etc. But Alabama's laughable basketball program made it difficult for even a top 5 national basketball coach to think he could have success. They suck so bad that $4 million seemed wayyy too low. I can never have respect for Alabama because of the desperation and total failure they showed in little ol' Wichita, Kansas.

So because of this, Alabama's brand is greatly tainted in my eyes. I would consider Ohio State far superior in branding which obviously doesn't reflect current football championship game success.


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(09-11-2017 12:37 PM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 11:21 AM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  I may be particularly biased in this poll.

While football fans see Alabama as the Mecca, they seem to me like a DII school after how they got embarrassed trying to poach Gregg Marshall from Wichita State. Everybody but the football coach flew to Wichita on private jets with suitcases full of money; I'm talking the president, the AD, etc. But Alabama's laughable basketball program made it difficult for even a top 5 national basketball coach to think he could have success. They suck so bad that $4 million seemed wayyy too low. I can never have respect for Alabama because of the desperation and total failure they showed in little ol' Wichita, Kansas.

So because of this, Alabama's brand is greatly tainted in my eyes. I would consider Ohio State far superior in branding which obviously doesn't reflect current football championship game success.


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Wichita fans are delusional.

Here is another way of answering the question. If a separate forum is created for BB, will there be any posts on it except for Feb-Mar and will the football forum be busy all year?

I vote for a separate forum.
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If you asked random people to name 5 colleges with sports in the U.S., my guess is the list would look something like this:

Notre Dame
Texas
Stanford
Michigan
Alabama

Not sure it would be slanted toward one sport or another but more based on brand recognition, but these all look like football schools to me.
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Is this a real question?

Notre Dame football has an NBC contract. No basketball school has anything like it.
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(09-11-2017 01:45 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If you asked random people to name 5 colleges with sports in the U.S., my guess is the list would look something like this:

Notre Dame
Texas
Stanford
Michigan
Alabama

Not sure it would be slanted toward one sport or another but more based on brand recognition, but these all look like football schools to me.

Stanford?
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(09-11-2017 03:06 PM)geef Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 01:45 PM)Shockem Wrote:  If you asked random people to name 5 colleges with sports in the U.S., my guess is the list would look something like this:

Notre Dame
Texas
Stanford
Michigan
Alabama

Not sure it would be slanted toward one sport or another but more based on brand recognition, but these all look like football schools to me.

Stanford?

I remember this issue of SI back in 2002:

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My passion is college basketball.
My interest in football in general is weakening.
I will passively watch the NFL on Sundays.
I have no interest in college football with the way it's ran and the pathetic makeup of its postseason.
I have even less interest in college football that generates its best teams to the Bad Boys Mowers Bowl.
I do however acknowledge that football popularity supersedes basketball popularity by a wide margin, no matter how badly I disagree with it.
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Get a life
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Wichita State
Gonzaga
Xavier
St. Mary's
VCU
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Consider the impact on the AAC of each sport.

Without football the AAC would not exist.
Without basketball, the AAC would exist.
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(09-11-2017 03:33 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  My passion is college basketball.
My interest in football in general is weakening.
I will passively watch the NFL on Sundays.
I have no interest in college football with the way it's ran and the pathetic makeup of its postseason.
I have even less interest in college football that generates its best teams to the Bad Boys Mowers Bowl.
I do however acknowledge that football popularity supersedes basketball popularity by a wide margin, no matter how badly I disagree with it.

This thread is not about the popularity of football vs. basketball though, it's about brand recognition which can transcend the sports being played for many different reasons. I'm working on extending my polling beyond a forum populated by fans of a conference that is mediocre in football and sucks in basketball. I suspect my polling would run far different in a major ACC forum.

P.S. Of course I have an ulterior motive which won't see the light of day until I get more data.


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