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RE: Seahawk Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas PD
(09-07-2017 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 11:56 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 11:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Can we please stop pretending that this is not an issue we need to have a serious adult conversation about?

What should we re-hash?

On this forum at least we've never pretended this is not an issue and we have had many serious adult conversations about it.

I'm glad someone on the other side is at least admitting that this IS an issue.

What exactly is the issue HERE?

The issue is that black people are more likely to be stopped by police.

They are more likely to be arrested by police.

They are more likely to be found guilty.

They are more likely to be incarcerated.

Those are the facts. If you don't believe me, look it up. Countless studies have been made about this.

So if you aren't going to accept the facts then there is no need for a discussion.

However, if you want to discuss why then I'm all ears.

Love the assumption that I can't accept facts, however you provided zero facts. Those are all situation-based opinions. None of those are a fact. None of those are a FACT across America. You're leaving a lot out there and making a broad opinionated statement sure, but not even close to a fact.

Perhaps you should go back to school and learn how to disseminate fact vs opinion. Let's start there.
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RE: Seahawk Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas PD
(09-07-2017 10:34 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 11:56 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  What should we re-hash?

On this forum at least we've never pretended this is not an issue and we have had many serious adult conversations about it.

I'm glad someone on the other side is at least admitting that this IS an issue.

What exactly is the issue HERE?

The issue is that black people are more likely to be stopped by police.

They are more likely to be arrested by police.

They are more likely to be found guilty.

They are more likely to be incarcerated.

Those are the facts. If you don't believe me, look it up. Countless studies have been made about this.

So if you aren't going to accept the facts then there is no need for a discussion.

However, if you want to discuss why then I'm all ears.

Love the assumption that I can't accept facts, however you provided zero facts. Those are all situation-based opinions. None of those are a fact. None of those are a FACT across America. You're leaving a lot out there and making a broad opinionated statement sure, but not even close to a fact.

Perhaps you should go back to school and learn how to disseminate fact vs opinion. Let's start there.

NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet
http://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. ... 32% of the US population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015. ... Crime/drug arrest rates: African Americans represent 12% of monthly drug ...
Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html
Mar 7, 2017 - Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted .... more likely to be arrested and convicted of such offenses than white people are, ...
Black People More Likely to Be Stopped by Cops, Study Finds - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../black-people...-finds-...
Jul 25, 2016 - Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they ... “Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates ...
The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties ...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarce...nd-whit...
When people are arrested for possessing even tiny amounts of marijuana, it can ... Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.
Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because they're ...
http://www.latimes.com/science/.../la-sc...story.html
Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.


Here is your homework. Get back to me in a couple of days when you are done educating yourself.
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RE: Seahawk Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas PD
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:34 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:23 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  I'm glad someone on the other side is at least admitting that this IS an issue.

What exactly is the issue HERE?

The issue is that black people are more likely to be stopped by police.

They are more likely to be arrested by police.

They are more likely to be found guilty.

They are more likely to be incarcerated.

Those are the facts. If you don't believe me, look it up. Countless studies have been made about this.

So if you aren't going to accept the facts then there is no need for a discussion.

However, if you want to discuss why then I'm all ears.

Love the assumption that I can't accept facts, however you provided zero facts. Those are all situation-based opinions. None of those are a fact. None of those are a FACT across America. You're leaving a lot out there and making a broad opinionated statement sure, but not even close to a fact.

Perhaps you should go back to school and learn how to disseminate fact vs opinion. Let's start there.

NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet
http://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. ... 32% of the US population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015. ... Crime/drug arrest rates: African Americans represent 12% of monthly drug ...
Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html
Mar 7, 2017 - Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted .... more likely to be arrested and convicted of such offenses than white people are, ...
Black People More Likely to Be Stopped by Cops, Study Finds - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../black-people...-finds-...
Jul 25, 2016 - Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they ... “Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates ...
The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties ...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarce...nd-whit...
When people are arrested for possessing even tiny amounts of marijuana, it can ... Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.
Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because they're ...
http://www.latimes.com/science/.../la-sc...story.html
Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.


Here is your homework. Get back to me in a couple of days when you are done educating yourself.

You're claiming a bunch of biased news sources as facts???

You either really sucked at scholarly research or your teachers/professors did you a severe disservice.

NAACP... CNN... NBC... LATimes... all left-leaning reporting information they want their readers to believe.

Go find a real scholarly fact please. Then we can continue an adult conversation.
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RE: Seahawk Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas PD
(09-07-2017 10:42 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:34 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:26 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  What exactly is the issue HERE?

The issue is that black people are more likely to be stopped by police.

They are more likely to be arrested by police.

They are more likely to be found guilty.

They are more likely to be incarcerated.

Those are the facts. If you don't believe me, look it up. Countless studies have been made about this.

So if you aren't going to accept the facts then there is no need for a discussion.

However, if you want to discuss why then I'm all ears.

Love the assumption that I can't accept facts, however you provided zero facts. Those are all situation-based opinions. None of those are a fact. None of those are a FACT across America. You're leaving a lot out there and making a broad opinionated statement sure, but not even close to a fact.

Perhaps you should go back to school and learn how to disseminate fact vs opinion. Let's start there.

NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet
http://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. ... 32% of the US population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015. ... Crime/drug arrest rates: African Americans represent 12% of monthly drug ...
Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html
Mar 7, 2017 - Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted .... more likely to be arrested and convicted of such offenses than white people are, ...
Black People More Likely to Be Stopped by Cops, Study Finds - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../black-people...-finds-...
Jul 25, 2016 - Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they ... “Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates ...
The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties ...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarce...nd-whit...
When people are arrested for possessing even tiny amounts of marijuana, it can ... Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.
Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because they're ...
http://www.latimes.com/science/.../la-sc...story.html
Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.


Here is your homework. Get back to me in a couple of days when you are done educating yourself.

You're claiming a bunch of biased news sources as facts???

You either really sucked at scholarly research or your teachers/professors did you a severe disservice.

NAACP... CNN... NBC... LATimes... all left-leaning reporting information they want their readers to believe.

Go find a real scholarly fact please. Then we can continue an adult conversation.

Yup that's what I thought.

You can't have an adult conversation with someone who doesn't accept facts.
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RE: Seahawk Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas PD
(09-07-2017 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:42 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:34 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:29 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The issue is that black people are more likely to be stopped by police.

They are more likely to be arrested by police.

They are more likely to be found guilty.

They are more likely to be incarcerated.

Those are the facts. If you don't believe me, look it up. Countless studies have been made about this.

So if you aren't going to accept the facts then there is no need for a discussion.

However, if you want to discuss why then I'm all ears.

Love the assumption that I can't accept facts, however you provided zero facts. Those are all situation-based opinions. None of those are a fact. None of those are a FACT across America. You're leaving a lot out there and making a broad opinionated statement sure, but not even close to a fact.

Perhaps you should go back to school and learn how to disseminate fact vs opinion. Let's start there.

NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet
http://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. ... 32% of the US population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015. ... Crime/drug arrest rates: African Americans represent 12% of monthly drug ...
Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html
Mar 7, 2017 - Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted .... more likely to be arrested and convicted of such offenses than white people are, ...
Black People More Likely to Be Stopped by Cops, Study Finds - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../black-people...-finds-...
Jul 25, 2016 - Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they ... “Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates ...
The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties ...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarce...nd-whit...
When people are arrested for possessing even tiny amounts of marijuana, it can ... Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.
Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because they're ...
http://www.latimes.com/science/.../la-sc...story.html
Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.


Here is your homework. Get back to me in a couple of days when you are done educating yourself.

You're claiming a bunch of biased news sources as facts???

You either really sucked at scholarly research or your teachers/professors did you a severe disservice.

NAACP... CNN... NBC... LATimes... all left-leaning reporting information they want their readers to believe.

Go find a real scholarly fact please. Then we can continue an adult conversation.

Yup that's what I thought.

You can't have an adult conversation with someone who doesn't accept facts.

Those aren't FACTS. Those are news media opinions!

Holy crap man.

You would be laughing (and rightfully so) if I tried to pass off Fox News or Breitbart articles as facts.

C'mon man. I had a little more respect for you than that.
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RE: Seahawk Michael Bennett vs. Las Vegas PD
(09-07-2017 10:45 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:42 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:34 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  Love the assumption that I can't accept facts, however you provided zero facts. Those are all situation-based opinions. None of those are a fact. None of those are a FACT across America. You're leaving a lot out there and making a broad opinionated statement sure, but not even close to a fact.

Perhaps you should go back to school and learn how to disseminate fact vs opinion. Let's start there.

NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet
http://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. ... 32% of the US population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015. ... Crime/drug arrest rates: African Americans represent 12% of monthly drug ...
Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html
Mar 7, 2017 - Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted .... more likely to be arrested and convicted of such offenses than white people are, ...
Black People More Likely to Be Stopped by Cops, Study Finds - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../black-people...-finds-...
Jul 25, 2016 - Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they ... “Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates ...
The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties ...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarce...nd-whit...
When people are arrested for possessing even tiny amounts of marijuana, it can ... Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.
Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because they're ...
http://www.latimes.com/science/.../la-sc...story.html
Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.


Here is your homework. Get back to me in a couple of days when you are done educating yourself.

You're claiming a bunch of biased news sources as facts???

You either really sucked at scholarly research or your teachers/professors did you a severe disservice.

NAACP... CNN... NBC... LATimes... all left-leaning reporting information they want their readers to believe.

Go find a real scholarly fact please. Then we can continue an adult conversation.

Yup that's what I thought.

You can't have an adult conversation with someone who doesn't accept facts.

Those aren't FACTS. Those are news media opinions!

Holy crap man.

You would be laughing (and rightfully so) if I tried to pass off Fox News or Breitbart articles as facts.

C'mon man. I had a little more respect for you than that.

No I wouldn't I would read the articles and tell you specifically what I find wrong with them. I wouldn't just dismiss them out of hand unless I had no argument.

If anything in the links I have provided is incorrect then please present it.
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(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.

So, I took this from the above article you cited, for instance.

"At the same time, the new research offers some support for the narratives of American policemen and women, who maintain that in encounters with those suspected of wrongdoing, they do not discriminate by race or ethnicity. The new findings are also consistent with simulation studies, which show that police officers are no more likely to fire their weapons on an unarmed black person than they are on an unarmed white person.

“The excess per-capita death rate of blacks from U.S. police action rightly concerns policy analysts, advocates and the press,” wrote the authors of the new research, which was not sponsored by any government organization or activist group. But, for blacks and Latinos who suspect they are subject to harsher treatment, they added, “the excess appears to reflect exposure” to police, not more violent police tactics during encounters. "

Did you read far enough beyond the headline to realize this argues counter to the point I think you are trying to make?
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(09-07-2017 10:49 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:45 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:44 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:42 AM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet
http://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. ... 32% of the US population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015. ... Crime/drug arrest rates: African Americans represent 12% of monthly drug ...
Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html
Mar 7, 2017 - Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted .... more likely to be arrested and convicted of such offenses than white people are, ...
Black People More Likely to Be Stopped by Cops, Study Finds - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../black-people...-finds-...
Jul 25, 2016 - Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they ... “Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates ...
The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties ...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarce...nd-whit...
When people are arrested for possessing even tiny amounts of marijuana, it can ... Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.
Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because they're ...
http://www.latimes.com/science/.../la-sc...story.html
Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.


Here is your homework. Get back to me in a couple of days when you are done educating yourself.

You're claiming a bunch of biased news sources as facts???

You either really sucked at scholarly research or your teachers/professors did you a severe disservice.

NAACP... CNN... NBC... LATimes... all left-leaning reporting information they want their readers to believe.

Go find a real scholarly fact please. Then we can continue an adult conversation.

Yup that's what I thought.

You can't have an adult conversation with someone who doesn't accept facts.

Those aren't FACTS. Those are news media opinions!

Holy crap man.

You would be laughing (and rightfully so) if I tried to pass off Fox News or Breitbart articles as facts.

C'mon man. I had a little more respect for you than that.

No I wouldn't I would read the articles and tell you specifically what I find wrong with them. I wouldn't just dismiss them out of hand unless I had no argument.

If anything in the links I have provided is incorrect then please present it.

Conversely, please prove that anything in the links you provided are indeed correct. Thanks.
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(09-07-2017 11:03 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.

So, I took this from the above article you cited, for instance.

"At the same time, the new research offers some support for the narratives of American policemen and women, who maintain that in encounters with those suspected of wrongdoing, they do not discriminate by race or ethnicity. The new findings are also consistent with simulation studies, which show that police officers are no more likely to fire their weapons on an unarmed black person than they are on an unarmed white person.

“The excess per-capita death rate of blacks from U.S. police action rightly concerns policy analysts, advocates and the press,” wrote the authors of the new research, which was not sponsored by any government organization or activist group. But, for blacks and Latinos who suspect they are subject to harsher treatment, they added, “the excess appears to reflect exposure” to police, not more violent police tactics during encounters. "

Did you read far enough beyond the headline to realize this argues counter to the point I think you are trying to make?

Go back to my original posts on what the issue was. I never said anything about police shootings.

I said stops, arrests, and incarcerations
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(09-07-2017 11:06 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 11:03 AM)GeorgeBorkFan Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.

So, I took this from the above article you cited, for instance.

"At the same time, the new research offers some support for the narratives of American policemen and women, who maintain that in encounters with those suspected of wrongdoing, they do not discriminate by race or ethnicity. The new findings are also consistent with simulation studies, which show that police officers are no more likely to fire their weapons on an unarmed black person than they are on an unarmed white person.

“The excess per-capita death rate of blacks from U.S. police action rightly concerns policy analysts, advocates and the press,” wrote the authors of the new research, which was not sponsored by any government organization or activist group. But, for blacks and Latinos who suspect they are subject to harsher treatment, they added, “the excess appears to reflect exposure” to police, not more violent police tactics during encounters. "

Did you read far enough beyond the headline to realize this argues counter to the point I think you are trying to make?

Go back to my original posts on what the issue was. I never said anything about police shootings.

I said stops, arrests, and incarcerations

I guess you didn't read the very first sentence I cited. I'll do it again.

"At the same time, the new research offers some support for the narratives of American policemen and women, who maintain that in encounters with those suspected of wrongdoing, they do not discriminate by race or ethnicity."
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From various news sites, including the NFL site...

Shots were fired in the casino somewhere, everyone started to get out and the police were called. Below is what transpired after that...


After clearing the casino, a team of officer's started heading toward Drai's nightclub, and while they were on the way there, they located Bennett.
"As they moved toward the nightclub, an individual later identified as Bennett was seen crouched down behind a gaming machine as the officers approached," McMahill sald. "Once Bennett was in the officer's view, he quickly ran out the south doors, jumped over a wall onto Flamingo Road East of Las Vegas Boulevard into traffic."
According to McMahill, the officers viewed Bennett's actions as suspicious, which is why he was handcuffed.
"Due to Bennett's actions, and the information the officer's had at the time, they believed that Bennett may have been involved in the shooting and they gave chase," McMahill said. "Bennett was placed in handcuffs and detained while officers determined whether or not he was involved in the incident."
In his statement, Bennett said his time in custody felt like an "eternity" due to the brutal way that the officers treated him.
McMahill said the Seahawks defensive end was in custody for 10 minutes.
"He was detained for approximately 10 minutes and released," McMahill said.
McMahill also added that Bennett told the officers that he "understood" why the situation happened after Vegas police explained it to him.
"Mr. Bennett, at the scene, had the incident explained to him by a supervisor and he said that he understood and that he had no problem with what the officers did," McMahill said.
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(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  NAACP | Criminal Justice Fact Sheet
http://www.naacp.org/criminal-justice-fact-sheet/
African Americans are incarcerated at more than 5 times the rate of whites. ... 32% of the US population, they comprised 56% of all incarcerated people in 2015. ... Crime/drug arrest rates: African Americans represent 12% of monthly drug ...
Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted - CNN.com
http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/07/politics/b...index.html
Mar 7, 2017 - Study: Black people more likely to be wrongfully convicted .... more likely to be arrested and convicted of such offenses than white people are, ...
Black People More Likely to Be Stopped by Cops, Study Finds - NBC ...
https://www.nbcnews.com/.../black-people...-finds-...
Jul 25, 2016 - Black people are more likely to be stopped by police but — once they ... “Blacks, Native Americans and Hispanics had higher stop/arrest rates ...
The War on Marijuana in Black and White | American Civil Liberties ...
https://www.aclu.org/issues/mass-incarce...nd-whit...
When people are arrested for possessing even tiny amounts of marijuana, it can ... Blacks are 3.73 times more likely than whites to be arrested for marijuana.
Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because they're ...
http://www.latimes.com/science/.../la-sc...story.html
Jul 25, 2016 - Blacks are more likely to be killed by police, but that's because ... But African Americans and Latinos — especially men — are far more likely ... who were stopped and questioned by police were arrested about 70% of the time.


Here is your homework. Get back to me in a couple of days when you are done educating yourself.

Two of your five links don't work either. A third, the CNN story has a misleading headline if you read the article. And, the LA Times article doesn't support your contention.
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(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The issue is that black people are more likely to be stopped by police.

Could that not be because they tend to liv in urban areas where there are more police and more crime?

Quote:They are more likely to be arrested by police.

Could that not be because they tend to liv in urban areas where there are more police and more crime?

Quote:They are more likely to be found guilty.

Has what to do with the police? that's the court and judges and I am all for digging into those and fixing them.

Quote:They are more likely to be incarcerated.

Has what to do with the police? that's the court and judges and I am all for digging into those and fixing them.

Quote:Those are the facts. If you don't believe me, look it up. Countless studies have been made about this.

There have also been studies that show police hesitate to shoot at an African American more than a white person. Do those studies count fit?

Quote:So if you aren't going to accept the facts then there is no need for a discussion.

My lawn is wet (That's a fact) it must have rained last night (That's speculation).
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(09-07-2017 12:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  My lawn is wet (That's a fact) it must have rained last night (That's speculation).

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(09-07-2017 12:23 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 10:38 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  The issue is that black people are more likely to be stopped by police.

Could that not be because they tend to liv in urban areas where there are more police and more crime?

Quote:They are more likely to be arrested by police.

Could that not be because they tend to liv in urban areas where there are more police and more crime?

Quote:They are more likely to be found guilty.

Has what to do with the police? that's the court and judges and I am all for digging into those and fixing them.

Quote:They are more likely to be incarcerated.

Has what to do with the police? that's the court and judges and I am all for digging into those and fixing them.

Quote:Those are the facts. If you don't believe me, look it up. Countless studies have been made about this.

There have also been studies that show police hesitate to shoot at an African American more than a white person. Do those studies count fit?

Quote:So if you aren't going to accept the facts then there is no need for a discussion.

My lawn is wet (That's a fact) it must have rained last night (That's speculation).

Once again you prove to be more open minded than most.

Yes of course we can discuss the why. That is the conversation that I want to have .

Unfortunately, we struggle to even agree on the facts in most cases.
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(09-07-2017 12:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Unfortunately, we struggle to even agree on the facts in most cases.

Unfortunately for folks on the left the facts of a specific case are less important than the greater narrative of "Black lives matter"
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(09-07-2017 01:26 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 12:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Unfortunately, we struggle to even agree on the facts in most cases.

Unfortunately for folks on the left the facts of a specific case are less important than the greater narrative of "Black lives matter"

Yep, we struggle because more often than not some folks simple don't care what the actual facts are.
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where is the gun... pointed at his head? I call bull****. Typical blm tactic. Lie. and overdramatize...
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(09-07-2017 01:40 PM)No Bull Wrote:  where is the gun... pointed at his dead? I call bull****. Typical blm tactic. Lie. and overdramatize...

So an NFL player is going to make something up that's easily disproven and ruin his career and reputation...for what exactly?

Now he clearly be over-selling the treatment, but it's a little early to just dismiss his whole story just because you have a bent on demonizing BLM.
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(09-07-2017 01:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(09-07-2017 01:40 PM)No Bull Wrote:  where is the gun... pointed at his dead? I call bull****. Typical blm tactic. Lie. and overdramatize...

So an NFL player is going to make something up that's easily disproven and ruin his career and reputation...for what exactly?

Now he clearly be over-selling the treatment, but it's a little early to just dismiss his whole story just because you have a bent on demonizing BLM.

Yes, too early to dismiss, but he's going a little overboard, IMO. As far as the first part, athletes have been known to do dumber things so I wouldn't put what you wrote past him.
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