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RE: ECU AD Jeff Compher is already breaching contract extension agreement (Link)
(09-10-2017 01:07 PM)B easy Wrote:  Washington Post: LOSERS * East Carolina

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...baf7f8dbb1

LOSERS

* East Carolina: Some coaching changes are puzzling, a feeling with a tendency to fade if the new coach fares as well or better than his predecessor. When things get worse — a lot worse — in a hurry, it’s easy to keep pointing to an odd decision.

Such is the case with the Pirates. Ruffin McNeill was a commendable 42-34 in six seasons. He is an East Carolina alum. But after posting a 5-7 mark that featured four one-possession losses in 2015, McNeill was ousted.

The Pirates went 3-9 in Scottie Montgomery’s first season, then opened this year with a 34-14 loss to FCS-level James Madison (as an underdog). Saturday, East Carolina lost, 56-20, at West Virginia after trailing 49-3 at the break and doesn’t look like a good bet to even match last year’s win total.

USA Today: East Carolina (LOSERS)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...650104001/

LOSERS

East Carolina: Things are getting ugly quickly in Greenville. It was a pretty big gamble for athletics director Jeff Compher to change coaches a couple years ago, pushing out an alumnus in Ruffin McNeill who had been fairly successful. Ever since then, the Pirates have been flat-out atrocious under Scottie Montgomery and were non-competitive in a 56-20 loss at West Virginia. Traditionally, these are the types of games where ECU is dangerous, but they were simply cannon fodder for West Virginia on Saturday, falling behind 49-3 at halftime. The Pirates are 0-2 and look like one of the worst teams in the American Athletic Conference.

Gator Sports

http://www.gatorsports.com/2017/09/sunda...ns-stoops/

Someone forgot to set the alarm clocks for East Carolina and Baylor. Nice starts. ECU, which inexplicably fired Ruffin McNeill two years ago, is now 3-10 under Scottie Montgomery and has opened the season with a loss to James Madison and a blowout loss to West Virginia.

ECU’s Football Team Is A Laughingstock This Year

http://thespun.com/college-football/ecus...-this-year

Logan Zone (skip to 19:00 mark)

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/rs/video/16938777/

East Carolina Sunk Its Own Ship

http://deadspin.com/east-carolina-sunk-i...1802094161

Meanwhile, Ruffin's doing a pretty good job as OU Assistant HC & that Defensive Line looked pretty damn good against the Buckeyes last night.

[Image: DCTh3okU0AAL9zb.jpg]

FWIW, Ruffin McNeill is a position coach at OU.
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(09-11-2017 08:31 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 01:07 PM)B easy Wrote:  Washington Post: LOSERS * East Carolina

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...baf7f8dbb1

LOSERS

* East Carolina: Some coaching changes are puzzling, a feeling with a tendency to fade if the new coach fares as well or better than his predecessor. When things get worse — a lot worse — in a hurry, it’s easy to keep pointing to an odd decision.

Such is the case with the Pirates. Ruffin McNeill was a commendable 42-34 in six seasons. He is an East Carolina alum. But after posting a 5-7 mark that featured four one-possession losses in 2015, McNeill was ousted.

The Pirates went 3-9 in Scottie Montgomery’s first season, then opened this year with a 34-14 loss to FCS-level James Madison (as an underdog). Saturday, East Carolina lost, 56-20, at West Virginia after trailing 49-3 at the break and doesn’t look like a good bet to even match last year’s win total.

USA Today: East Carolina (LOSERS)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...650104001/

LOSERS

East Carolina: Things are getting ugly quickly in Greenville. It was a pretty big gamble for athletics director Jeff Compher to change coaches a couple years ago, pushing out an alumnus in Ruffin McNeill who had been fairly successful. Ever since then, the Pirates have been flat-out atrocious under Scottie Montgomery and were non-competitive in a 56-20 loss at West Virginia. Traditionally, these are the types of games where ECU is dangerous, but they were simply cannon fodder for West Virginia on Saturday, falling behind 49-3 at halftime. The Pirates are 0-2 and look like one of the worst teams in the American Athletic Conference.

Gator Sports

http://www.gatorsports.com/2017/09/sunda...ns-stoops/

Someone forgot to set the alarm clocks for East Carolina and Baylor. Nice starts. ECU, which inexplicably fired Ruffin McNeill two years ago, is now 3-10 under Scottie Montgomery and has opened the season with a loss to James Madison and a blowout loss to West Virginia.

ECU’s Football Team Is A Laughingstock This Year

http://thespun.com/college-football/ecus...-this-year

Logan Zone (skip to 19:00 mark)

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/rs/video/16938777/

East Carolina Sunk Its Own Ship

http://deadspin.com/east-carolina-sunk-i...1802094161

Meanwhile, Ruffin's doing a pretty good job as OU Assistant HC & that Defensive Line looked pretty damn good against the Buckeyes last night.

[Image: DCTh3okU0AAL9zb.jpg]

FWIW, Ruffin McNeill is a position coach at OU.

True but he is also AHC along with Defensive Backs coach & the D-Line did look good even for OU standards against Ohio State. One of the best things about Ruff was his loyalty due to being an ECU grad and being from ENC. This was a destination job for him & that's rare for anyone to have in this conference.
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Ruff isn't coming back and neither is Riley. Compher made the move to make the program his own. Had Coach Mo won 8 or 9 games last year and 8 or 9 this year, Compher would be trying to leverage that into a better job. - That's why he is bad for ECU. Compher has to go. Mo needs to be sat down and told he has this year and next to turn things around or he is out.

ECU wants to be a 'big boy' school when it comes to football. What do the 'big boy' schools do when something like this happens? They pony up the money and fire the AD and coaches, then pony up again and hire somebody that can get the job done. ECU raised a buttload of money in a very short time for the stadium renovation. Let this season play out as 2-10 or 0-12 and I guarantee EVERY large donor would say yes to re-appropriating that money to get rid of Compher (and likely Mo). ECU doesn't need a nicer press box right now. There's no sense in painting a sinking ship.
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(09-06-2017 04:19 PM)B easy Wrote:  Compelling article about Compher written right after Ruff's firing that rings more true today than ever.

https://www.underdogdynasty.com/2015/12/...ector-jeff

Read the part about JC's past jobs. I'm thinking that's how he got the job to begin with & the contract extension. Look at Jeff Compher's first job listed.
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(09-11-2017 10:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Ruff isn't coming back and neither is Riley. Compher made the move to make the program his own. Had Coach Mo won 8 or 9 games last year and 8 or 9 this year, Compher would be trying to leverage that into a better job. - That's why he is bad for ECU. Compher has to go. Mo needs to be sat down and told he has this year and next to turn things around or he is out.

ECU wants to be a 'big boy' school when it comes to football. What do the 'big boy' schools do when something like this happens? They pony up the money and fire the AD and coaches, then pony up again and hire somebody that can get the job done. ECU raised a buttload of money in a very short time for the stadium renovation. Let this season play out as 2-10 or 0-12 and I guarantee EVERY large donor would say yes to re-appropriating that money to get rid of Compher (and likely Mo). ECU doesn't need a nicer press box right now. There's no sense in painting a sinking ship.

It is not a question of need...it is matter of keeping up. Sitting back and allowing everyone we recruit against to upgrade while being complacent could make things worse. College football is a business. Just like any business you have to do what it takes to keep your market share...or suffer loss of it. Its a war. Regardless of whether Mo turns this around and changes everything or he gets canned...the renovation needs to be moved forward to attract better recruits and a better coach if necessary.

The money has been raised...the project approved...every day we put this off the cost go up. This is going to happen anyway. Get it done. BTW...The project also includes other upgrades to the facility outside of the press box that make the program more attractive to recruits.
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(09-11-2017 09:38 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 08:31 AM)Hood-rich Wrote:  
(09-10-2017 01:07 PM)B easy Wrote:  Washington Post: LOSERS * East Carolina

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...baf7f8dbb1

LOSERS

* East Carolina: Some coaching changes are puzzling, a feeling with a tendency to fade if the new coach fares as well or better than his predecessor. When things get worse — a lot worse — in a hurry, it’s easy to keep pointing to an odd decision.

Such is the case with the Pirates. Ruffin McNeill was a commendable 42-34 in six seasons. He is an East Carolina alum. But after posting a 5-7 mark that featured four one-possession losses in 2015, McNeill was ousted.

The Pirates went 3-9 in Scottie Montgomery’s first season, then opened this year with a 34-14 loss to FCS-level James Madison (as an underdog). Saturday, East Carolina lost, 56-20, at West Virginia after trailing 49-3 at the break and doesn’t look like a good bet to even match last year’s win total.

USA Today: East Carolina (LOSERS)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...650104001/

LOSERS

East Carolina: Things are getting ugly quickly in Greenville. It was a pretty big gamble for athletics director Jeff Compher to change coaches a couple years ago, pushing out an alumnus in Ruffin McNeill who had been fairly successful. Ever since then, the Pirates have been flat-out atrocious under Scottie Montgomery and were non-competitive in a 56-20 loss at West Virginia. Traditionally, these are the types of games where ECU is dangerous, but they were simply cannon fodder for West Virginia on Saturday, falling behind 49-3 at halftime. The Pirates are 0-2 and look like one of the worst teams in the American Athletic Conference.

Gator Sports

http://www.gatorsports.com/2017/09/sunda...ns-stoops/

Someone forgot to set the alarm clocks for East Carolina and Baylor. Nice starts. ECU, which inexplicably fired Ruffin McNeill two years ago, is now 3-10 under Scottie Montgomery and has opened the season with a loss to James Madison and a blowout loss to West Virginia.

ECU’s Football Team Is A Laughingstock This Year

http://thespun.com/college-football/ecus...-this-year

Logan Zone (skip to 19:00 mark)

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/rs/video/16938777/

East Carolina Sunk Its Own Ship

http://deadspin.com/east-carolina-sunk-i...1802094161

Meanwhile, Ruffin's doing a pretty good job as OU Assistant HC & that Defensive Line looked pretty damn good against the Buckeyes last night.

[Image: DCTh3okU0AAL9zb.jpg]

FWIW, Ruffin McNeill is a position coach at OU.

True but he is also AHC along with Defensive Backs coach & the D-Line did look good even for OU standards against Ohio State. One of the best things about Ruff was his loyalty due to being an ECU grad and being from ENC. This was a destination job for him & that's rare for anyone to have in this conference.

No slap on Ruff..but..He did not recruit the talent he is coaching at OU.
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(09-12-2017 05:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 10:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Ruff isn't coming back and neither is Riley. Compher made the move to make the program his own. Had Coach Mo won 8 or 9 games last year and 8 or 9 this year, Compher would be trying to leverage that into a better job. - That's why he is bad for ECU. Compher has to go. Mo needs to be sat down and told he has this year and next to turn things around or he is out.

ECU wants to be a 'big boy' school when it comes to football. What do the 'big boy' schools do when something like this happens? They pony up the money and fire the AD and coaches, then pony up again and hire somebody that can get the job done. ECU raised a buttload of money in a very short time for the stadium renovation. Let this season play out as 2-10 or 0-12 and I guarantee EVERY large donor would say yes to re-appropriating that money to get rid of Compher (and likely Mo). ECU doesn't need a nicer press box right now. There's no sense in painting a sinking ship.

It is not a question of need...it is matter of keeping up. Sitting back and allowing everyone we recruit against to upgrade while being complacent could make things worse. College football is a business. Just like any business you have to do what it takes to keep your market share...or suffer loss of it. Its a war. Regardless of whether Mo turns this around and changes everything or he gets canned...the renovation needs to be moved forward to attract better recruits and a better coach if necessary.

The money has been raised...the project approved...every day we put this off the cost go up. This is going to happen anyway. Get it done. BTW...The project also includes other upgrades to the facility outside of the press box that make the program more attractive to recruits.

The question is which is more important for the long term health of the athletic department, the project or cleaning house if this junk continues all season? I don't think both are feasible financially, but if we go 0-12 I don't think the press box is feasible financially either.
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(09-10-2017 01:07 PM)B easy Wrote:  Washington Post: LOSERS * East Carolina

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/spor...baf7f8dbb1

LOSERS

* East Carolina: Some coaching changes are puzzling, a feeling with a tendency to fade if the new coach fares as well or better than his predecessor. When things get worse — a lot worse — in a hurry, it’s easy to keep pointing to an odd decision.

Such is the case with the Pirates. Ruffin McNeill was a commendable 42-34 in six seasons. He is an East Carolina alum. But after posting a 5-7 mark that featured four one-possession losses in 2015, McNeill was ousted.

The Pirates went 3-9 in Scottie Montgomery’s first season, then opened this year with a 34-14 loss to FCS-level James Madison (as an underdog). Saturday, East Carolina lost, 56-20, at West Virginia after trailing 49-3 at the break and doesn’t look like a good bet to even match last year’s win total.

USA Today: East Carolina (LOSERS)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nc...650104001/

LOSERS

East Carolina: Things are getting ugly quickly in Greenville. It was a pretty big gamble for athletics director Jeff Compher to change coaches a couple years ago, pushing out an alumnus in Ruffin McNeill who had been fairly successful. Ever since then, the Pirates have been flat-out atrocious under Scottie Montgomery and were non-competitive in a 56-20 loss at West Virginia. Traditionally, these are the types of games where ECU is dangerous, but they were simply cannon fodder for West Virginia on Saturday, falling behind 49-3 at halftime. The Pirates are 0-2 and look like one of the worst teams in the American Athletic Conference.

Gator Sports

http://www.gatorsports.com/2017/09/sunda...ns-stoops/

Someone forgot to set the alarm clocks for East Carolina and Baylor. Nice starts. ECU, which inexplicably fired Ruffin McNeill two years ago, is now 3-10 under Scottie Montgomery and has opened the season with a loss to James Madison and a blowout loss to West Virginia.

ECU’s Football Team Is A Laughingstock This Year

http://thespun.com/college-football/ecus...-this-year

Logan Zone (skip to 19:00 mark)

http://www.wralsportsfan.com/rs/video/16938777/

East Carolina Sunk Its Own Ship

http://deadspin.com/east-carolina-sunk-i...1802094161

Meanwhile, Ruffin's doing a pretty good job as OU Assistant HC & that Defensive Line looked pretty damn good against the Buckeyes last night.

[Image: DCTh3okU0AAL9zb.jpg]

What's the reoccurring theme in all of these articles? Ruff Hey I get it. Ruff was not a great coach but he was a good coach. He made some mistakes. Dropped the ball on some of his recruits etc. I get all of that. But you can't deny the fact that the kids loved and played hard for him. That fact alone will help balance out any deficiency in talent that we had. During his tenure here he has done a lot for this school because he loved this school. He should of never been fired after a 5 - 7 season. Jeff Compher made a terrible decision without a backup plan. Hell without a plan at all. If anything he should of waited another year and then pull the trigger. Now we are left with a train wreck of a program that is going to take a while to get back on track.
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I'll just say this about Ruff, for all the love the man gets he has had exactly 0 head coaching offers since he was let go from ECU. If the national consensus is we screwed up teams should have been lining up to hire this man, but they weren't.
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(09-12-2017 05:47 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  
(09-11-2017 10:45 AM)200yrs2late Wrote:  Ruff isn't coming back and neither is Riley. Compher made the move to make the program his own. Had Coach Mo won 8 or 9 games last year and 8 or 9 this year, Compher would be trying to leverage that into a better job. - That's why he is bad for ECU. Compher has to go. Mo needs to be sat down and told he has this year and next to turn things around or he is out.

ECU wants to be a 'big boy' school when it comes to football. What do the 'big boy' schools do when something like this happens? They pony up the money and fire the AD and coaches, then pony up again and hire somebody that can get the job done. ECU raised a buttload of money in a very short time for the stadium renovation. Let this season play out as 2-10 or 0-12 and I guarantee EVERY large donor would say yes to re-appropriating that money to get rid of Compher (and likely Mo). ECU doesn't need a nicer press box right now. There's no sense in painting a sinking ship.

It is not a question of need...it is matter of keeping up. Sitting back and allowing everyone we recruit against to upgrade while being complacent could make things worse. College football is a business. Just like any business you have to do what it takes to keep your market share...or suffer loss of it. Its a war. Regardless of whether Mo turns this around and changes everything or he gets canned...the renovation needs to be moved forward to attract better recruits and a better coach if necessary.

The money has been raised...the project approved...every day we put this off the cost go up. This is going to happen anyway. Get it done. BTW...The project also includes other upgrades to the facility outside of the press box that make the program more attractive to recruits.

Besides tearing down the double-wide and making DFS look like a modern stadium:

"Beyond the stadium renovation, the Ward Sports Medicine Building and Scales Field House will also experience improvements as part of the long-term facilities master plan. The football locker room and team meeting areas, athletics training headquarters and equipment room will each undergo a modernization and expansion transformation along with the construction of a football team lounge. The relocation of the ECU Athletics Ticket Office and the addition of team locker rooms will highlight the work scheduled for Scales Field House... At nearby Clark-LeClair Stadium, a hitting facility will be constructed to support both baseball and softball programs." LINK

Yes it is an awful lot of money. But with Compher just getting a 5 year extension, he wont be going anywhere soon. With Mo's contract until 2021, he's likely to get at least another year. As they say on Black Jeopardy, "What we got is what we got." Our best bet is pushing forward on facilities or end up a decade behind our peers.

We are only two games into the season and it ain't looking too good. I'd love to see the Pirates start improving this year and Coach Mo become the greatest coach in ECU history. If he doesn't improve, coaching changes are a fraction of facilities costs.
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(09-13-2017 09:01 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  I'll just say this about Ruff, for all the love the man gets he has had exactly 0 head coaching offers since he was let go from ECU. If the national consensus is we screwed up teams should have been lining up to hire this man, but they weren't.

Steve Logan also never became another HC after he got fired from ecu.

some have said ruff had calls from lower level d1 and fcs teams but decided to go to uva instead, which due to his age and the money they can provide it wouldn't be crazy to think he would do that.

Jeff Lebo also has no public offers from other schools
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We must clean house regardless at this point. We have no choice.
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Didn't he bring you LEBO?? How could you fire a man with that kind of vision.
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(09-16-2017 07:02 PM)B easy Wrote:  


Tackled by Charles Barkley!
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(11-26-2017 09:44 AM)goodknightfl Wrote:  Didn't he bring you LEBO?? How could you fire a man with that kind of vision.

No Terry Holland hired Lebo

And Lebo really wasn’t a bad hire for CUSA. Obviously need better now
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(09-06-2017 11:15 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 11:11 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  You are not going to be able to prove in a court that he's breaching those things.

You only have to show that it's 50.00001% more likely that he did breach the contract for ECU to win in civil court. As a lawyer I can assure you that with adequate representation one can sway a jury to believe just about anything. I don't even think this is a hard case to win.

As a lawyer I can assure you that the other side will be well represented too. By what competent substantial admissible evidence do you propose to meet your burden?
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(11-26-2017 11:16 AM)8BitPirate Wrote:  
(09-16-2017 07:02 PM)B easy Wrote:  


Tackled by Charles Barkley!
Holy crap that made my day. John Wayne watching a 9-3 ECU win a bowl game coached by Pat Dye.

Whoever fired Ruffin needs his ass kicked around the block.

I honestly felt bad for ECU and that makes me feel icky. Dammit man.
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(09-06-2017 11:15 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 11:11 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  You are not going to be able to prove in a court that he's breaching those things.

You only have to show that it's 50.00001% more likely that he did breach the contract for ECU to win in civil court. As a lawyer I can assure you that with adequate representation one can sway a jury to believe just about anything. I don't even think this is a hard case to win.

As a lawyer I can assure you that the other side will be well represented too. By what competent substantial admissible evidence do you propose to meet your burden?
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(11-26-2017 11:28 AM)NestaKnight1 Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 11:15 AM)Indiana Bones Wrote:  
(09-06-2017 11:11 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  You are not going to be able to prove in a court that he's breaching those things.

You only have to show that it's 50.00001% more likely that he did breach the contract for ECU to win in civil court. As a lawyer I can assure you that with adequate representation one can sway a jury to believe just about anything. I don't even think this is a hard case to win.

As a lawyer I can assure you that the other side will be well represented too. By what competent substantial admissible evidence do you propose to meet your burden?

Have you paid attention to what the man has been doing to our athletic department? That's at least a wanton disregard for his duties if not an outright intentional dereliction. Even if you can just show that he is just too stupid to provide competent leadership, there's enough catch-all language in his contract to make a non-frivolous claim. We are talking about a local jury of peers here. At the very least you can apply some procedural pressure to induce a settlement. His track record of incompetence speaks for itself & all of it would be fair game.
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