After seeing JMU destroy ECU, I began thinking about why in the world do teams outside of the P5, and especially lower level teams, schedule top FCS teams. JMU could beat several FBS teams. To me, if you are a lower level team you shouldn't schedule the good FCS teams. Seems like a lose/lose scenario.

And I understand that scheduling is done in advance. Maybe it is unavoidable, I don't know.

Teams will keep doing it. NDSU has won 6 straight FBS games iirc. JMU has WVU, UNC and NC State lined up. If I was though schools fans I wouldn't want anything to do with the Dukes.

As a Temple fan/alum it kind of sucks that 'Nova is usually really good. I enjoy playing them because I can't stand them but they're a top tier FCS program. Next week's game could be a real headache. I watched them beat my 17th ranked Mountain Hawks today...

Partly because most of the time scheduling is done years in advance. JMU just recently became an FCS contender.

(09-02-2017 09:55 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  Teams will keep doing it. NDSU has won 6 straight FBS games iirc. JMU has WVU, UNC and NC State lined up. If I was though schools fans I wouldn't want anything to do with the Dukes.

As a Temple fan/alum it kind of sucks that 'Nova is usually really good. I enjoy playing them because I can't stand them but they're a top tier FCS program. Next week's game could be a real headache. I watched them beat my 17th ranked Mountain Hawks today...

They're actually my 17th ranked Mountain Hawks but nice try.

(09-02-2017 09:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Partly because most of the time scheduling is done years in advance. JMU just recently became an FCS contender.

They won the title in 2004, were the top overall seed in the FCS playoffs in 2008, beat VTech in 2009 or 2010. They've been a good program since the late 90's when Mickey Matthews got the ball rolling....

(09-02-2017 10:00 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 09:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Partly because most of the time scheduling is done years in advance. JMU just recently became an FCS contender.

They won the title in 2004, were the top overall seed in the FCS playoffs in 2008, beat VTech in 2009 or 2010. They've been a good program since the late 90's when Mickey Matthews got the ball rolling....

They've been an 8-9 win good program (Top 25) for many years, but never really regularly contended for the FCS crown (Top 5) until recent years.

Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

(09-02-2017 10:07 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:00 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 09:58 PM)HuskyU Wrote:  Partly because most of the time scheduling is done years in advance. JMU just recently became an FCS contender.

They won the title in 2004, were the top overall seed in the FCS playoffs in 2008, beat VTech in 2009 or 2010. They've been a good program since the late 90's when Mickey Matthews got the ball rolling....

They've been an 8-9 win good program (Top 25) for many years, but never really regularly contended for the FCS crown (Top 5) until recent years.

They got a gift from the refs in the 2004 1AA playoff game against Lehigh. A bogus celebration/personal foul was called on Lehigh when they celebrated a 4th and goal stop. It took JMU 7 tries from the 1 to get in. They won the game 14-13 and ended up winning the national title.

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

The SWAC and MEAC are a notch below much of FCS. The SWAC doesn't participate in the FCS playoffs and the MEAC hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 iirc. The MEAC choose to give up their auto bid to the playoffs because they couldn't compete. The schools can still accept an at large bid which NC A&T elected to do last year.

(09-02-2017 10:12 PM)TUowl06 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

The SWAC and MEAC are a notch below much of FCS. The SWAC doesn't participate in the FCS playoffs and the MEAC hasn't won a playoff game since 2000 iirc. The MEAC choose to give up their auto bid to the playoffs because they couldn't compete. The schools can still accept an at large bid which NC A&T elected to do last year.

This is correct. JMU, NDSU, Villanova, UNH, Montana, etc would beat the breaks off even the best SWAC/MEAC teams. They get their share of SEC washouts at the skill positions, but that it isn't enough -- they simply can't compete along the trenches and it's obvious whenever you watch them play. The one exception might be Bethune Cookman who whenever I've seen them play "up" in competition usually looks pretty good.

Tulane needs to try and schedule a SWAC team for its FCS team every year. They'll never beat us, their fans are great and LOVE coming to NOLA, and their bands are great. What more can we ask for? This is a no-brainer.

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

Last year, Grambling was a top FCS team, but that's rare for the SWAC. They brought most of their offense back this year, but lost a ton on defense. Scheduling Grambling is usually safe.

(09-02-2017 11:20 PM)DrBox Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 10:08 PM)Enviro5609 Wrote:  Tulane scheduled a top FCS team.

They're FCS. If you aren't terrible you win.

Last year, Grambling was a top FCS team, but that's rare for the SWAC. They brought most of their offense back this year, but lost a ton on defense. Scheduling Grambling is usually safe.

The Grambling qb could play anywhere

Fearful of losing home games against FCS teams, yet pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams. Such irony, especially when you actually do lose home games against FCS teams.

(09-02-2017 11:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Fearful of losing home games against FCS teams, yet pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams. Such irony, especially when you actually do lose home games against FCS teams.

P6 influence campaign in fact is NOT "pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams."

P6 is saying "we are closer to the five contract bowl conferences than we are to the little four conferences."

Medium term win for the info op will come with next media contract, but the true, strategic objective is to be on the right side of the divide come 2025.

Unfortunately, it's the only way many FCS programs can keep their programs afloat. The system isn't the best, but it works out. Maybe a bad loss to an FCS is what it takes to turn your program around.

(09-02-2017 11:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Fearful of losing home games against FCS teams, yet pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams. Such irony, especially when you actually do lose home games against FCS teams.

Only bad AAC teams fear the decent FCS teams. But I see your point.

Our AD is a former JMU player and is horrible at scheduling. It was probably the only team he could get.

(09-03-2017 12:14 AM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  

(09-02-2017 11:47 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  Fearful of losing home games against FCS teams, yet pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams. Such irony, especially when you actually do lose home games against FCS teams.

P6 influence campaign in fact is NOT "pretending to be the equal of P5 conference teams."

P6 is saying "we are closer to the five contract bowl conferences than we are to the little five conferences."

Medium term win for the info op will come with next media contract, but the true, strategic objective is to be on the right side of the divide come 2025.

Yes, P6 says all of that. Then reality sets in and the country sees things like this forum topic (frightened of losing to FCS teams at home) and the reason why by what happened last night. Sure it happens on very rare occasions to even a P5 school, but those big time conferences aren't afraid to play them. Your conference's record in bowl games is yet another indicator that doesn't back up your claim of being closer to the P5. The bowl game records (winning percentage) of the AAC and P5 conferences is both stark and telling. Yet another indicator is the AAC's very poor record head to head against the P5 teams. P5 teams win their fair share against their peers.

The AAC is a good G5 conference, but not a good P5 conference.

Scheduling FCS is really done just to get a home game without having to return the game at their place in later years. But it really does nothing for he team if they lose. With that said the odds of winning at a lot higher than playing an FBS nonPower team and then having to visit them the year after.