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(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 01:49 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I'm not a Hoy fanboy, I'm a proponent of using the dual threat option. His name just happens to be Hoy.

Hopefully, Coach Wilder and Coach Whitcomb will have him ready by the time the heels come to town.

If Hoy is really that good and the answer, he would have already beaten BL out for the QB spot. Funny how Coach Wilder went back to BL after Hoy totally ran into the on coming D-lineman for the remainder of the game. Hmmm!!!???

He just arrived at the school a few weeks ago. Athletically, he is everything Larussa is not. But he didn't have a Spring Practice or the better part of the summer to train with his teammates like Larussa did.

My guess is, Larussa is in there to buy some time for Hoy,

Or Larussa is in there solid and backup Hoy is getting reps so that if the fragile 5'10, 180 pounder gets his clock rung, Hoy will at least have some experience taking over.

Either way, there's a reason Hoy moved up the depth charts and is in the game.

(09-05-2017 02:28 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:19 PM)Monarchblue Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 01:39 PM)BigBlueMonarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 01:32 PM)TheDancinMonarch Wrote:  https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...ugh-start/

6 C-USA teams represented. Score!

WOW, that is brutal. ECU has fallen fast. Remember when we wanted to be them?

Whomever was responsible for firing Ruffin McNeil should be fired immediately. That has got to be one of the worst coaching changes I have ever seen.

I don't want to start an argument, but this is the issue at times when firing a solid coach. Sometimes you can find someone to elevate the program even higher, sometimes you turn into ECu.

ECU has earned what they are getting now for the way Ruffin was treated

(09-05-2017 02:42 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 01:49 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I'm not a Hoy fanboy, I'm a proponent of using the dual threat option. His name just happens to be Hoy.

Hopefully, Coach Wilder and Coach Whitcomb will have him ready by the time the heels come to town.

If Hoy is really that good and the answer, he would have already beaten BL out for the QB spot. Funny how Coach Wilder went back to BL after Hoy totally ran into the on coming D-lineman for the remainder of the game. Hmmm!!!???

He just arrived at the school a few weeks ago. Athletically, he is everything Larussa is not. But he didn't have a Spring Practice or the better part of the summer to train with his teammates like Larussa did.

My guess is, Larussa is in there to by some time for Hoy,

Or Larussa is in there solid and backup Hoy is getting reps so that if the fragile 5'10, 180 poinder gets his clock rung, Hoy will at least have some experience taking over.

Either way, there's a reason Hoy moved up the depth charts and is in the game.

Did we rotate in quarterbacks when Heinicke was under center in case the fragile 5-11 190 pound pocket QB got his bell rung?

(09-05-2017 02:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:42 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 01:49 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I'm not a Hoy fanboy, I'm a proponent of using the dual threat option. His name just happens to be Hoy.

Hopefully, Coach Wilder and Coach Whitcomb will have him ready by the time the heels come to town.

If Hoy is really that good and the answer, he would have already beaten BL out for the QB spot. Funny how Coach Wilder went back to BL after Hoy totally ran into the on coming D-lineman for the remainder of the game. Hmmm!!!???

He just arrived at the school a few weeks ago. Athletically, he is everything Larussa is not. But he didn't have a Spring Practice or the better part of the summer to train with his teammates like Larussa did.

My guess is, Larussa is in there to by some time for Hoy,

Or Larussa is in there solid and backup Hoy is getting reps so that if the fragile 5'10, 180 poinder gets his clock rung, Hoy will at least have some experience taking over.

Either way, there's a reason Hoy moved up the depth charts and is in the game.

Did we rotate in quarterbacks when Heinicke was under center in case the fragile 5-11 190 pound pocket QB got his bell rung?

I forgot to mention that in addition to being athletically superior to Larussa, he has actual on field experience too.

As for rotation, ODU hasn't faced a situation where no QB stood out and backup just got off the jet plane a few weeks ago.

(09-05-2017 02:42 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 01:49 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I'm not a Hoy fanboy, I'm a proponent of using the dual threat option. His name just happens to be Hoy.

Hopefully, Coach Wilder and Coach Whitcomb will have him ready by the time the heels come to town.

If Hoy is really that good and the answer, he would have already beaten BL out for the QB spot. Funny how Coach Wilder went back to BL after Hoy totally ran into the on coming D-lineman for the remainder of the game. Hmmm!!!???

He just arrived at the school a few weeks ago. Athletically, he is everything Larussa is not. But he didn't have a Spring Practice or the better part of the summer to train with his teammates like Larussa did.

My guess is, Larussa is in there to buy some time for Hoy,

Or Larussa is in there solid and backup Hoy is getting reps so that if the fragile 5'10, 180 pounder gets his clock rung, Hoy will at least have some experience taking over.

Either way, there's a reason Hoy moved up the depth charts and is in the game.

Why can you not accept that Larussa beat out the other QBs to be the starter? and that includes Shuler Bentley.

Why do you keep using fragile next to Larussa's name? Do you have any relevant information that allows you to make that statement? Seems to me the kid looked pretty tough the other day and was not afraid to pull the ball down and run. He also had a pocket presence that Hoy lacked.

We have DBs who have to take on OL and TEs that are not much bigger than Larussa. Are they fragile?

I guess I am willing to go with the coaches who have seen him everyday in practice for the last two plus years. After all I am pretty confident that they are better judges of talent than you or me, especially since their jobs depend on his performance.

Other than his size help me understand your argument.

(09-05-2017 03:19 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:42 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 01:49 AM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I'm not a Hoy fanboy, I'm a proponent of using the dual threat option. His name just happens to be Hoy.

Hopefully, Coach Wilder and Coach Whitcomb will have him ready by the time the heels come to town.

If Hoy is really that good and the answer, he would have already beaten BL out for the QB spot. Funny how Coach Wilder went back to BL after Hoy totally ran into the on coming D-lineman for the remainder of the game. Hmmm!!!???

He just arrived at the school a few weeks ago. Athletically, he is everything Larussa is not. But he didn't have a Spring Practice or the better part of the summer to train with his teammates like Larussa did.

My guess is, Larussa is in there to by some time for Hoy,

Or Larussa is in there solid and backup Hoy is getting reps so that if the fragile 5'10, 180 poinder gets his clock rung, Hoy will at least have some experience taking over.

Either way, there's a reason Hoy moved up the depth charts and is in the game.

Did we rotate in quarterbacks when Heinicke was under center in case the fragile 5-11 190 pound pocket QB got his bell rung?

I forgot to mention that in addition to being athletically superior to Larussa, he has actual on field experience too.

As for rotation, ODU hasn't faced a situation where no QB stood out and backup just got of the jet plane a few weeks ago.

As for Hoy moving up the depth chart, he is obviously showing the coaches more than Drayton Arnold right now and while Williams looks to be the future, he did not look ready to play in the last scrimmage against the #1s. He may very well be the starter down the road, but until BL loses the job it is his. As for experience, it was apparent that Larussa without the experience had better pocket presence Saturday.

(09-05-2017 03:29 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 03:19 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:42 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 06:04 AM)84Monarch Wrote:  If Hoy is really that good and the answer, he would have already beaten BL out for the QB spot. Funny how Coach Wilder went back to BL after Hoy totally ran into the on coming D-lineman for the remainder of the game. Hmmm!!!???

He just arrived at the school a few weeks ago. Athletically, he is everything Larussa is not. But he didn't have a Spring Practice or the better part of the summer to train with his teammates like Larussa did.

My guess is, Larussa is in there to by some time for Hoy,

Or Larussa is in there solid and backup Hoy is getting reps so that if the fragile 5'10, 180 poinder gets his clock rung, Hoy will at least have some experience taking over.

Either way, there's a reason Hoy moved up the depth charts and is in the game.

Did we rotate in quarterbacks when Heinicke was under center in case the fragile 5-11 190 pound pocket QB got his bell rung?

I forgot to mention that in addition to being athletically superior to Larussa, he has actual on field experience too.

As for rotation, ODU hasn't faced a situation where no QB stood out and backup just got of the jet plane a few weeks ago.

As for Hoy moving up the depth chart, he is obviously showing the coaches more than Drayton Arnold right now and while Williams looks to be the future, he did not look ready to play in the last scrimmage against the #1s. He may very well be the starter down the road, but until BL loses the job it is his. As for experience, it was apparent that Larussa without the experience had better pocket presence Saturday.

BL has been practicing/scrimmaging/playing against FBS defenses for the past 2 years. Hoy has bounced around, but recently played a season in JUCO. I'm not sure why anyone would give credit to Hoy for "experience."

(09-05-2017 03:36 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 03:29 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 03:19 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:42 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  He just arrived at the school a few weeks ago. Athletically, he is everything Larussa is not. But he didn't have a Spring Practice or the better part of the summer to train with his teammates like Larussa did.

My guess is, Larussa is in there to by some time for Hoy,

Or Larussa is in there solid and backup Hoy is getting reps so that if the fragile 5'10, 180 poinder gets his clock rung, Hoy will at least have some experience taking over.

Either way, there's a reason Hoy moved up the depth charts and is in the game.

Did we rotate in quarterbacks when Heinicke was under center in case the fragile 5-11 190 pound pocket QB got his bell rung?

I forgot to mention that in addition to being athletically superior to Larussa, he has actual on field experience too.

As for rotation, ODU hasn't faced a situation where no QB stood out and backup just got of the jet plane a few weeks ago.

As for Hoy moving up the depth chart, he is obviously showing the coaches more than Drayton Arnold right now and while Williams looks to be the future, he did not look ready to play in the last scrimmage against the #1s. He may very well be the starter down the road, but until BL loses the job it is his. As for experience, it was apparent that Larussa without the experience had better pocket presence Saturday.

BL has been practicing/scrimmaging/playing against FBS defenses for the past 2 years. Hoy has bounced around, but recently played a season in JUCO. I'm not sure why anyone would give credit to Hoy for "experience."

Gaining experience through an actual football season as opposed to wearing a red vest and play fake football???

The only thing Larussa has over Hoy is playbook experience. Hoy is catching up.

Nothing changes the fact that the Californian has a stronger arm and is atheltically better than Larussa.

(09-05-2017 03:56 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 03:36 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 03:29 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 03:19 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 02:52 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Did we rotate in quarterbacks when Heinicke was under center in case the fragile 5-11 190 pound pocket QB got his bell rung?

I forgot to mention that in addition to being athletically superior to Larussa, he has actual on field experience too.

As for rotation, ODU hasn't faced a situation where no QB stood out and backup just got of the jet plane a few weeks ago.

As for Hoy moving up the depth chart, he is obviously showing the coaches more than Drayton Arnold right now and while Williams looks to be the future, he did not look ready to play in the last scrimmage against the #1s. He may very well be the starter down the road, but until BL loses the job it is his. As for experience, it was apparent that Larussa without the experience had better pocket presence Saturday.

BL has been practicing/scrimmaging/playing against FBS defenses for the past 2 years. Hoy has bounced around, but recently played a season in JUCO. I'm not sure why anyone would give credit to Hoy for "experience."

Gaining experience through an actual football season as opposed to wearing a red vest and play fake football??? As far as his FBS garbage time experience? Please lol

Playing against JUCO is lower than playing FCS. LaRussa also playing in competitive situations vs. Hampton and FIU (I believe them, the end of first half).

For all of Hoys experience, shouldn't he have looked better last Saturday then?