(08-30-2017 10:52 AM)TrojanCampaign Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 10:03 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 09:59 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I'd prefer dead air and test patterns between games than any coaches shows, interviews, "analysis" or other such things.

Or, horrors of horrors, showing more games.

It blows my mind what people complain about. "Oh no!!!! A show called Sportscenter where they give their opinion on sports on a sports channel! The horror!"

Sportscenter is great when you just want something to listen to and you don't feel like listening to politics that make you want to jump of a bridge. I listen to it while I'm doing things like grilling or ironing clothes.

To each their own. I'd rather listen to music than any "talking head", whether it is news, politics or sports.

If I find some down time, I'd rather read books than listen to ESPN "experts" drone on about anything.

(08-30-2017 08:25 AM)BadgerMJ Wrote:  I rarely if ever watch the Eastcoast Sports Programming Network anymore.

Game Day depending on who's playing and where it's at and the occasional 30 for 30, other than that, only if a B1G team is playing......

Unless Beth Mowins was calling the game then I immediately turn the channel. Her super power is being the ONLY announcer that can get me to turn off a Badger game.

Does anyone think she can actually call a game? I do watch live events, most of the time gameday, and some 30 for 30. They waste money paying airheads like Michelle Beadle 1.3mil. And get rid of great analysts like Trent Dilfer. It has been over 10 yeas since I watched Sports Center.



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(08-30-2017 08:54 AM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Outside of games I am only really entertained by watching the College Football Game Day crew.

I should have listed this is well. I enjoy turning on Game Day early Saturday mornings during college football season, it really does put me in the mood for the games to come.

Whenever I feel like I'm watching ESPN too much, I remind myself just how bad all the other options are. Every year, the list of channels I've programmed my remote to skip grows larger.

When you consider how much ESPN and Fox are paying for sports programming, you get a measure of how awful TV has become.

(08-30-2017 07:05 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I miss Captain Lou making a case for schools like Boise State to go for the Championship games. ESPN lost a person who was for the little guys. They lose their best talents and kept their talent that sucks. Danny Kanell was just hired by Fox Sports to do play by play for football games. As it is, ESPN kept SEC guys, and gave Tim Tebow a large signing contract that was more than some of the ACC guys they let go of.

Me too, and I miss Mark May. Most of the other talking head announcers suck at thier jobs.

(08-31-2017 09:20 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote:  

(08-30-2017 07:05 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  I miss Captain Lou making a case for schools like Boise State to go for the Championship games. ESPN lost a person who was for the little guys. They lose their best talents and kept their talent that sucks. Danny Kanell was just hired by Fox Sports to do play by play for football games. As it is, ESPN kept SEC guys, and gave Tim Tebow a large signing contract that was more than some of the ACC guys they let go of.

Me too, and I miss Mark May. Most of the other talking head announcers suck at thier jobs.

Not so fast my friend.....

Sorry, I had to, it still makes me laugh.

I do kinda miss May and Lou doing the scoreboard show. Not so much because of their biting insight but because they needled each other and you could tell May would get pissed off at Lou. That friendly antagonism worked.

So how does ESPN solve that problem? They fire Lou and replace him with an even bigger curmudgeon Mack Brown who had ZERO chemistry.

How about this. Just show highlights and give scores. We don't need some "expert" analysis as to why Alabama is rolling over Mercer.

I'm a games only person for anything college related. If they would give some actual air time to teams outside the P5 I might care more.

Their NBA show is OK but I don't make special time to watch it.

I think their NFL pregame show is pretty good when I get to see it. But usually the only one I really have time to watch is the lead up to MNF.

I mostly just watch games. If I can, I mute the TV and listen to the radio broadcast. To be fair, I don't watch ther programs on other networks either.

I haven't watched a single non-live broadcast ESPN show in a decade.

When I was growing up, I had ESPN on every hour I was awake in my house.

(09-01-2017 02:27 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  When I was growing up, I had ESPN on every hour I was awake in my house.

And then you grew up and had a phone in your hand which did all those same things.

Once upon a time, one of the great things I had to look forward to was The Sporting News arriving in my mailbox.

Unless you lived somewhere that had a newspaper with a truly exemplary sports section, you had to read The Sporting News to really be an informed fan.

Between Sports Center and the arriving internet the leadership at TSN did not know what to do. So they slicked it up, made it flashier and quit being the paper of record regarding sports. They got fluffier.

They couldn't keep as "the paper of record". The box scores were old by the time you received them. The news nuggets about non-power schools easily found elsewhere. TSN had to evolve. I don't like what it evolved in to but it had to change to survive.

Sports Center still hasn't figured out what it is or should be in the internet era. The great highlight clip has already been seen before the show comes on. That huge (because it is a slow news day) trade rumor involving the Mariners and Royals has already spread and been refuted before Sports Center comes on.

They really have to figure out what they need to be.

Now chances are, like The Sporting News it will become something I don't care for but that's how you survive.

(09-01-2017 02:37 AM)Renandpat Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 02:27 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  When I was growing up, I had ESPN on every hour I was awake in my house.

And then you grew up and had a phone in your hand which did all those same things.

^^ This.

It's like watching the Weather Channel. People used to go "Hey turn the channel to the weather channel so we can see what this weekend will be like".

Now you just say "Ok Google|Hey Siri, what's the weather" and your phone tells you.

(09-01-2017 08:11 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  Once upon a time, one of the great things I had to look forward to was The Sporting News arriving in my mailbox.

Unless you lived somewhere that had a newspaper with a truly exemplary sports section, you had to read The Sporting News to really be an informed fan.

Between Sports Center and the arriving internet the leadership at TSN did not know what to do. So they slicked it up, made it flashier and quit being the paper of record regarding sports. They got fluffier.

They couldn't keep as "the paper of record". The box scores were old by the time you received them. The news nuggets about non-power schools easily found elsewhere. TSN had to evolve. I don't like what it evolved in to but it had to change to survive.

Sports Center still hasn't figured out what it is or should be in the internet era. The great highlight clip has already been seen before the show comes on. That huge (because it is a slow news day) trade rumor involving the Mariners and Royals has already spread and been refuted before Sports Center comes on.

They really have to figure out what they need to be.

Now chances are, like The Sporting News it will become something I don't care for but that's how you survive.

So true, no longer take it as it went monthly. Sports Weekly is probably best thing out now.


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I only watch games. My interest is dwindling there however

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I wonder when you alt-right types will realize that Stephen A Smith is the simply the Sports version of Mark Levine and Michael Savage; and both of those just amped-up versions of vacuous Rush Limbaugh ranting.

It's all for ratings. It was predicted long ago with the Howard Beale show.

From a sports angle it's not surprising the ratings went that way, as it all started with Boomer and his carnival barker Sports Center rapid fire. ESPN highlight turned those sports section of the newspaper little blips into something visceral, a scream and a highlight. First NFL then every obscure sport. "Commentary News" is all the rage -- hard to believe we once watched the dry newscasts that told us boring stuff like the town planning commission is considering tearing up the road in front of your house (you now find out when the tape shows up on your block). But we don't want that news, we want yelling and screaming.

Consume junk "news", think junk. The screamers are just out to entertain you, make their (BIG!) money playing to your feelings and prejudices. They aren't there to get you to think and learn.* ESPN is just the sports version of this.

* "Educate" is my favorite Orwellian term used by authoritarian minded people from left to right. It means "you must think my way," because there is no room for debate. Consider that Authoritarian regimes always have "re-education" programs next time your favorite screamer tells you they are educating.

I watch a lot of live sporting events, especially collegiate games.

As for SportsCenter, I very rarely watch it now days. However, if my favorite teams have a big win, I will often watch following the game and/or the next day.

What I don't watch at all are the debate shows where the hosts try to talk over each other. It just isn't my thing. Shows where people have logical, calm conversations and are respectful of each other are fine I suppose, but I have no interest in watching guys yell at each other and belittle one another for their opinions, even when it is obvious that one of them is only taking the opposite opinion so that they can argue. I think this is probably because I'm getting older, however.

(09-01-2017 12:58 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  I wonder when you alt-right types will realize that Stephen A Smith is the simply the Sports version of Mark Levine and Michael Savage; and both of those just amped-up versions of vacuous Rush Limbaugh ranting.

It's all for ratings. It was predicted long ago with the Howard Beale show.

From a sports angle it's not surprising the ratings went that way, as it all started with Boomer and his carnival barker Sports Center rapid fire. ESPN highlight turned those sports section of the newspaper little blips into something visceral, a scream and a highlight. First NFL then every obscure sport. "Commentary News" is all the rage -- hard to believe we once watched the dry newscasts that told us boring stuff like the town planning commission is considering tearing up the road in front of your house (you now find out when the tape shows up on your block). But we don't want that news, we want yelling and screaming.

Consume junk "news", think junk. The screamers are just out to entertain you, make their (BIG!) money playing to your feelings and prejudices. They aren't there to get you to think and learn.* ESPN is just the sports version of this.

* "Educate" is my favorite Orwellian term used by authoritarian minded people from left to right. It means "you must think my way," because there is no room for debate. Consider that Authoritarian regimes always have "re-education" programs next time your favorite screamer tells you they are educating.

Alt-right types huh? I dislike ESPN more than anyone, and am a life long Libertarian who voted for Gary Johnson with a "brown" spouse who was born in Mexico. There's many more like me who dislike ESPN who don't fit your lazy alt right narrative....
P.S. I get your point, and generally like and agree with your post; the "alt-right" thing was unnecessary

(08-30-2017 07:24 AM)Chappy Wrote:  I only watch sporting events on it. Cannot stand the yapping opinion shows, and that crap had infiltrated SC so I quit watching it too. I have watched a couple of the documentaries... they are pretty good.

Those clowns love to hear themselves talk, I don't watch them either.