(09-05-2017 09:49 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 02:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 12:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Will he actually pay his own money, not from his "charity" (you know the one that purchased portraits of himself). Will this money actually be paid to a real charity that actually uses the money to help all Houstonians? (Samaritan Purse doesn't count). Will it be directed through an overt political ally's foundation? Will this money be paid from one of his businesses? Will it be an 'in kind donation' that is cashless? Will it be a donation of money to his own businesses to provide some sort of relief for some people? Will it be paid in a timely manner?

If its a real, personal, cash donation, made for the benefit of all Houstonians, provided to a general relief organization that isn't an overt political ally (and doesn't discriminate), that doesn't funnel the donation back to his for profit businesses or his brand, AND its actually paid in a timely manner...then

Then yes, I will congratulate Trump for donating the equivalent of a 100 dollar donation for a person with a million bucks. Which is what 1,000,000 dollars is to someone with a claimed net worth of 10 billion.

There is no winning, is there? I mean this is an unadulterated, awful, ****** thing to say about this whole situation.

But quite inidcitive of the left, as a whole.

If anyone wants to see how the upcoming Right vs Left divide will go, see that post and then go study any religious war and see how those turned out in the end. Because leftism is a religion where you cannot, through threat of ex-communication, say something outside of dogma.

BushHitlerHalliburtonTrumpHitlerEvilRichRacistCharlottevilleDogWhisterAntiSemiteIranIraqAfghanistanHitlerNazi. Preach it! Represent!

(And as many smarter than I have said, "You're going to hate the new rules" when we apply them to liberals.)

No, actually it's not.

He pledged money after 9/11. It never came. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.2829908

He "may" have promised money after Sandy to Gov. Christie's wife. It never came. https://patch.com/new-jersey/madison/chr...esman-says

He pledged to donate his debate stunt money to the military. It never came until the papers started asking him about it. https://apnews.com/44c48343f6244ea587681...-charities

Yes, trump has been generous in the past and he should be thanked for that, but sorry, it goes to pattern and it's well within the bounds to question him here.

Keep in mind he's also been donating his POTUS salary.

Good for him. It's a nice gesture, but it's a pretty small amount in the context of the federal budget...and he doesn't need the money. So, isn't it more of a publicity stunt than actual goodwill on his part? Especially with his past history.

If he actually does donate, I think that's great. However, the person that wrote The Art of the Deal claims that Trump always said he would donate to countless organizations but he never actually did.

(09-05-2017 10:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If he actually does donate, I think that's great. However, the person that wrote The Art of the Deal claims that Trump always said he would donate to countless organizations but he never actually did.

Well, this I am sure will be followed intensely by his haters so if he doesn't follow through it'll be his own fault and he'll have to deal with the consequences.

(09-05-2017 09:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:49 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 02:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 12:09 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  LOL. Will he actually pay his own money, not from his "charity" (you know the one that purchased portraits of himself). Will this money actually be paid to a real charity that actually uses the money to help all Houstonians? (Samaritan Purse doesn't count). Will it be directed through an overt political ally's foundation? Will this money be paid from one of his businesses? Will it be an 'in kind donation' that is cashless? Will it be a donation of money to his own businesses to provide some sort of relief for some people? Will it be paid in a timely manner?

If its a real, personal, cash donation, made for the benefit of all Houstonians, provided to a general relief organization that isn't an overt political ally (and doesn't discriminate), that doesn't funnel the donation back to his for profit businesses or his brand, AND its actually paid in a timely manner...then

Then yes, I will congratulate Trump for donating the equivalent of a 100 dollar donation for a person with a million bucks. Which is what 1,000,000 dollars is to someone with a claimed net worth of 10 billion.

There is no winning, is there? I mean this is an unadulterated, awful, ****** thing to say about this whole situation.

But quite inidcitive of the left, as a whole.

If anyone wants to see how the upcoming Right vs Left divide will go, see that post and then go study any religious war and see how those turned out in the end. Because leftism is a religion where you cannot, through threat of ex-communication, say something outside of dogma.

BushHitlerHalliburtonTrumpHitlerEvilRichRacistCharlottevilleDogWhisterAntiSemiteIranIraqAfghanistanHitlerNazi. Preach it! Represent!

(And as many smarter than I have said, "You're going to hate the new rules" when we apply them to liberals.)

No, actually it's not.

He pledged money after 9/11. It never came. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.2829908

He "may" have promised money after Sandy to Gov. Christie's wife. It never came. https://patch.com/new-jersey/madison/chr...esman-says

He pledged to donate his debate stunt money to the military. It never came until the papers started asking him about it. https://apnews.com/44c48343f6244ea587681...-charities

Yes, trump has been generous in the past and he should be thanked for that, but sorry, it goes to pattern and it's well within the bounds to question him here.

Keep in mind he's also been donating his POTUS salary.

Good for him. It's a nice gesture, but it's a pretty small amount in the context of the federal budget...and he doesn't need the money. So, isn't it more of a publicity stunt than actual goodwill on his part? Especially with his past history.

Quote:cyn·i·cal
ˈsinək(ə)l
adjective
1.
believing that people are motivated by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
"her cynical attitude"

Donates his salary, donates to relief fund... bad man. Bad man.

(09-05-2017 10:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If he actually does donate, I think that's great. However, the person that wrote The Art of the Deal claims that Trump always said he would donate to countless organizations but he never actually did.

I didn't support him during the primaries primarily because of The Art of the Deal.

I thought his campaign promises to the Evangelical community were another "deal maker". That is, promise whatever they want to get their votes.

But I have to hand it to him. He's remained faithful to Evangelicals for the most part.


So maybe is "business tactics" are one thing and his governing is another.

(09-05-2017 10:32 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:52 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:49 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(09-05-2017 09:44 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-01-2017 02:13 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  There is no winning, is there? I mean this is an unadulterated, awful, ****** thing to say about this whole situation.

But quite inidcitive of the left, as a whole.

If anyone wants to see how the upcoming Right vs Left divide will go, see that post and then go study any religious war and see how those turned out in the end. Because leftism is a religion where you cannot, through threat of ex-communication, say something outside of dogma.

BushHitlerHalliburtonTrumpHitlerEvilRichRacistCharlottevilleDogWhisterAntiSemiteIranIraqAfghanistanHitlerNazi. Preach it! Represent!

(And as many smarter than I have said, "You're going to hate the new rules" when we apply them to liberals.)

No, actually it's not.

He pledged money after 9/11. It never came. http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics...-1.2829908

He "may" have promised money after Sandy to Gov. Christie's wife. It never came. https://patch.com/new-jersey/madison/chr...esman-says

He pledged to donate his debate stunt money to the military. It never came until the papers started asking him about it. https://apnews.com/44c48343f6244ea587681...-charities

Yes, trump has been generous in the past and he should be thanked for that, but sorry, it goes to pattern and it's well within the bounds to question him here.

Keep in mind he's also been donating his POTUS salary.

Good for him. It's a nice gesture, but it's a pretty small amount in the context of the federal budget...and he doesn't need the money. So, isn't it more of a publicity stunt than actual goodwill on his part? Especially with his past history.

Quote:cyn·i·cal
ˈsinək(ə)l
adjective
1.
believing that people are motivated by self-interest; distrustful of human sincerity or integrity.
"her cynical attitude"

Donates his salary, donates to relief fund... bad man. Bad man.

Quote:indignant
[in-dig-nuh nt]

adjective

1. feeling, characterized by, or expressing strong displeasure at something considered unjust, offensive, insulting, or base:
indignant remarks; an indignant expression on his face.

Doesn't donate promised money to 9/11, doesn't donate promised money to Hurricane Sandy relief, doesn't donate promised money to military until press pressures him into it...bad man. Bad man.

As long as he follows through on the money, Good man.