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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
Mid-Major G4 move.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:36 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:19 AM)billybobby777 Wrote: (08-24-2017 07:20 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-23-2017 10:15 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: Next up for the g4. Groupon is going to air their games.
This is actually quite funny. Facebook picks up the one game on SDSU's schedule that is not nationally televised, and you laugh. You realize that the AAC will be doing this same thing soon, right?
Carry on.
I hope so. I started a thread before this one on the subject. Playing games on Facebook is a good thing--at least I think....I don't know why people on here are mocking it?? I predict that online platforms are going to be showing many more games in the future.
Exactly. In fact, Aresco has discussed this, and many on this board lauded his efforts. Strange.
He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
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08-24-2017 09:07 AM |
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HuskyU
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:36 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:19 AM)billybobby777 Wrote: (08-24-2017 07:20 AM)fanhood Wrote: This is actually quite funny. Facebook picks up the one game on SDSU's schedule that is not nationally televised, and you laugh. You realize that the AAC will be doing this same thing soon, right?
Carry on.
I hope so. I started a thread before this one on the subject. Playing games on Facebook is a good thing--at least I think....I don't know why people on here are mocking it?? I predict that online platforms are going to be showing many more games in the future.
Exactly. In fact, Aresco has discussed this, and many on this board lauded his efforts. Strange.
He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
Of all the streaming options (if you can call Facebook that) ... Facebook? Yea it's free, but the options to get it on a large TV are limited. Do they even have a streaming app? They have mobile apps, but it's more for the news feed part. How are sports bars and stuff going to play this?
Amazon, Google, Netflix, Hulu, etc etc are all on every single smart device out there. If the AAC got paid to put their extra games on one of those networks, it would be a win. Facebook? I'm not sure there is much benefit there.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:36 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:19 AM)billybobby777 Wrote: I hope so. I started a thread before this one on the subject. Playing games on Facebook is a good thing--at least I think....I don't know why people on here are mocking it?? I predict that online platforms are going to be showing many more games in the future.
Exactly. In fact, Aresco has discussed this, and many on this board lauded his efforts. Strange.
He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
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HuskyU
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 09:34 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:36 AM)fanhood Wrote: Exactly. In fact, Aresco has discussed this, and many on this board lauded his efforts. Strange.
He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
It is classic. Classic G4 mentality.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 09:34 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:36 AM)fanhood Wrote: Exactly. In fact, Aresco has discussed this, and many on this board lauded his efforts. Strange.
He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
I'm oddly on fanhood's side on this one. They ARE making a dime off of it because they've already been paid for the content. If ESPN wants to take one of our games that they've already paid us for and sell it, or dig a hole and bury it for that matter, what does that matter to us? We're getting paid either way.
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HuskyU
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 09:39 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:34 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
I'm oddly on fanhood's side on this one. They ARE making a dime off of it because they've already been paid for the content. If ESPN wants to take one of our games that they've already paid us for and sell it, or dig a hole and bury it for that matter, what does that matter to us? We're getting paid either way.
I like to be able to find every UCONN football game on TV. Maybe I'm alone in thinking that...
Fanhood said that the MWC is doing exactly what Aresco was discussing. But they're not one in the same. Aresco wants to use this method as a way to bump up the ESPN bid. He plans to use Facebook and the likes to stuff AAC schools' wallets.
(This post was last modified: 08-24-2017 09:55 AM by HuskyU.)
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 07:20 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-23-2017 10:15 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: Next up for the g4. Groupon is going to air their games.
This is actually quite funny. Facebook picks up the one game on SDSU's schedule that is not nationally televised, and you laugh. You realize that the AAC will be doing this same thing soon, right?
Carry on.
Nope---but thanks for playing. No AAC football games rights are owned by STADIUM. STADIUM has a few AAC basketball game rights---but those deals were made with ASN to move ESPN3 games to OTA (I think ESPN3 still offered a stream). Not sure ASN even would even be in compliance with their agreement if they offer a streaming only broadcast. If we are looking at streaming only, ESPN will just do it themselves---so I don't see STADIUM having exclusive streaming only AAC games.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 08:25 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:19 AM)billybobby777 Wrote: (08-24-2017 07:20 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-23-2017 10:15 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: Next up for the g4. Groupon is going to air their games.
This is actually quite funny. Facebook picks up the one game on SDSU's schedule that is not nationally televised, and you laugh. You realize that the AAC will be doing this same thing soon, right?
Carry on.
I hope so. I started a thread before this one on the subject. Playing games on Facebook is a good thing--at least I think....I don't know why people on here are mocking it?? I predict that online platforms are going to be showing many more games in the future.
Even with espn being the go to place for sports, what are the numbers for mid major level football? Especially when you go out of your way to find a game. My guess is maybe 25,000 watch ESPN3 for some individual games. Probably even less really.
MAC games were averaging about 3K on ESPN-3 a couple of years ago. Might be a little better now---but it was pretty paltry last time I saw any numbers.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 09:34 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:36 AM)fanhood Wrote: Exactly. In fact, Aresco has discussed this, and many on this board lauded his efforts. Strange.
He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
I believe Thompson has raised the idea of the MW being all digital next contract.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 10:01 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:34 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 08:43 AM)HuskyU Wrote: He discussed getting paid for it as a part of our next media deal. Your media partners sold content off to Facebook with no financial benefit to you. That's not what Aresco wants.
How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
I believe Thompson has raised the idea of the MW being all digital next contract.
Considering that is the trend moving forward, he is smart to be looking at it. In 10 years, everyone will be digital.
If you remember, the MW was the first conference to have its own network. Now everyone does. Unfortunately, losing Utah and BYU killed the Mountain. It was disappointing.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-23-2017 11:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: The worst thing about this for those conferences is these are exclusives. They are not going to be available anywhere else. This isn't like being on a smaller network with a streaming mirror. These games are going to be on Facebook and thats the only place they are going to be. Do many men over 30 years old spend much time on Facebook?
I think Twitter is going to be a better Social media platform for sports.
Actually, I think it's ONLY people over 30 who spend time on FB...
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 07:28 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: I get a weird feeling that this is one of those threads that we'll look back on in ten years and all feel like idiots. The fact that we use "air" in quotes like it's not real, or saying that "it won't even be on tv" seems short-sighted.
A future where all content comes over the net rather than over the air isn't flying car ridiculous. Hell, I don't have cable. I either watch games over digital antenna, or stream ESPN/CBS apps on my Apple tv. All I'd need to stream these games on it is a facebook app.
I will admit, however, that until the old people die, it's surprising that they aren't airing these over the air at least in local markets.
I put air in quotaion marks because it will be streamed not broadcast on television through the air. We need a new term to cover the showing of games, shows, etc that includes streaming, cable, and over the air.
I doubt we see the end of classic tv as we know it, but rather will see it modified in its position and importance, similar to what happened to newspapers when radio, then television, then the internet came along. Although what happened to radio with the rise of television and the emergence of the internet, followed by the boom of social networks might be closer. Satalite radio being the equivelelnt of cable but not having the entrenched habit that cable posses, podcasts becoming radio shows you can stream any where at any time, and regular radio still enjoying popularity.
I laughed because of the author's assertion that no one cares about the mwc and cusa games selected. This is a statement backed up by the economic value of the deal.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 10:19 AM)BearcatJerry Wrote: (08-23-2017 11:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote: The worst thing about this for those conferences is these are exclusives. They are not going to be available anywhere else. This isn't like being on a smaller network with a streaming mirror. These games are going to be on Facebook and thats the only place they are going to be. Do many men over 30 years old spend much time on Facebook?
I think Twitter is going to be a better Social media platform for sports.
Actually, I think it's ONLY people over 30 who spend time on FB...
I said MEN over 30. I have a Facebook, but I rarely ever go there. Most of my male friends either dont have one of never use it. On the other hand, men are all over Twitter and most follow lots of sport related accounts. Just seems Twitter is better positioned to me---but thats a totally anecdotal observation on my part.
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 10:15 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 10:01 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:34 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:07 AM)fanhood Wrote: How much is the American making on the Grambling vs Tulane game on ESPN3? What about SFA @ SMU?
ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
I believe Thompson has raised the idea of the MW being all digital next contract.
Considering that is the trend moving forward, he is smart to be looking at it. In 10 years, everyone will be digital.
If you remember, the MW was the first conference to have its own network. Now everyone does. Unfortunately, losing Utah and BYU killed the Mountain. It was disappointing.
Haha revisionist history much? Pretty sure the mntn was stillborn, it wasn't carried on most cable networks, if I recall correctly there were even some cable companies in mwc markets that didn't carry it.
Fanhood gonnna fanhood lol
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
lol facebook
thats quality....I guess that deal with the Cartoon Network fell through for the MWC
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 11:08 AM)TU4ever Wrote: (08-24-2017 10:15 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 10:01 AM)Attackcoog Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:34 AM)fanhood Wrote: (08-24-2017 09:20 AM)HuskyU Wrote: ESPN3 was part of our original ESPN contract. Facebook was not a part of MWC's original media contract. Your media partner is now pimping you out to degenerates and you aren't making a dime off it.
Ha! It is one game in 12. This is classic.
I believe Thompson has raised the idea of the MW being all digital next contract.
Considering that is the trend moving forward, he is smart to be looking at it. In 10 years, everyone will be digital.
If you remember, the MW was the first conference to have its own network. Now everyone does. Unfortunately, losing Utah and BYU killed the Mountain. It was disappointing.
Haha revisionist history much? Pretty sure the mntn was stillborn, it wasn't carried on most cable networks, if I recall correctly there were even some cable companies in mwc markets that didn't carry it.
Fanhood gonnna fanhood lol
THIS. It was never successful. I'd also add, the MW still doesnt have Utah or BYU---so nothing has really changed. That said, the way I understand it, the MW wouldnt expect to make more money for MEDIA with the move. The intention is to maximize in stadium earnings by allowing schools to schedule game times in such a way that they can squeeze every possible dollar out of the game day event. I think that MW schools probably at least break even or maybe even see increeased revenue in that manner. At the very least---the game day experience will be the best it can be with that formula.
The MW Network was a great idea---the MW just didnt have the fan bases or the population base to make a linear network viable (still dont).
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
Im ok with this as long as we get pay for it. Yes its one SDSU game but quite a few from the MWC conference. So if the AAC went and moved some of our games currently on ESPN3 to this, I would be fine as long as is an ADDED value to the tv contract
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RE: Facebook to "air" MWC and CUSA games
(08-24-2017 07:42 AM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote: (08-24-2017 07:28 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote: I get a weird feeling that this is one of those threads that we'll look back on in ten years and all feel like idiots. The fact that we use "air" in quotes like it's not real, or saying that "it won't even be on tv" seems short-sighted.
A future where all content comes over the net rather than over the air isn't flying car ridiculous. Hell, I don't have cable. I either watch games over digital antenna, or stream ESPN/CBS apps on my Apple tv. All I'd need to stream these games on it is a facebook app.
I will admit, however, that until the old people die, it's surprising that they aren't airing these over the air at least in local markets.
Possibly....Facebook would need to change drastically. You don't go to Facebook to watch games. Having games on your phone will never be the same experience. If it becomes an app that you can load as a channel like the watch espn app, maybe...
Facebook is an app on smart TVs, Roku, etc.
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