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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
Diaco thinks this is ridiculous.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:27 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Instead of naming a game where we go into Okie Town stomping Tulsa's dick in the dirt on live television, and giving neutral audiences the appearance that this is a major game in the AAC representative of the league's top quality, how about we name a game between the top two powers in the league each year. The highlight AAC game on ESPN for 2017-18 should be the home and home between us and Cincy. That should be the Battle Of _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Fking Tulsa... *sigh*


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Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


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Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:27 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Instead of naming a game where we go into Okie Town stomping Tulsa's dick in the dirt on live television, and giving neutral audiences the appearance that this is a major game in the AAC representative of the league's top quality, how about we name a game between the top two powers in the league each year. The highlight AAC game on ESPN for 2017-18 should be the home and home between us and Cincy. That should be the Battle Of _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Fking Tulsa... *sigh*


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Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


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Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.

Good one. Wichita State has been a media darling since 2012. Our brand has been jammed into your home more times than I'm sure you like.

Try harder.







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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:27 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Instead of naming a game where we go into Okie Town stomping Tulsa's dick in the dirt on live television, and giving neutral audiences the appearance that this is a major game in the AAC representative of the league's top quality, how about we name a game between the top two powers in the league each year. The highlight AAC game on ESPN for 2017-18 should be the home and home between us and Cincy. That should be the Battle Of _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Fking Tulsa... *sigh*


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Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


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...03-cool

Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:27 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Instead of naming a game where we go into Okie Town stomping Tulsa's dick in the dirt on live television, and giving neutral audiences the appearance that this is a major game in the AAC representative of the league's top quality, how about we name a game between the top two powers in the league each year. The highlight AAC game on ESPN for 2017-18 should be the home and home between us and Cincy. That should be the Battle Of _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Fking Tulsa... *sigh*


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...03-cool
Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


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...03-cool

Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Well, I think you guys tended to get amnesia when conference time rolled around. No one really watched the Valley until conference tournament time.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:27 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Instead of naming a game where we go into Okie Town stomping Tulsa's dick in the dirt on live television, and giving neutral audiences the appearance that this is a major game in the AAC representative of the league's top quality, how about we name a game between the top two powers in the league each year. The highlight AAC game on ESPN for 2017-18 should be the home and home between us and Cincy. That should be the Battle Of _ _ _ _ _ _ _

Fking Tulsa... *sigh*


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...03-cool
Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


T


...03-cool

Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
Is invisiblehand a WSU fan or a Tulsa fan?
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 04:03 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Is invisiblehand a WSU fan or a Tulsa fan?

Idk, is Coldblooded a lizard?
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 02:57 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


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Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.
Yes. We had 4 ESPN2 Valley games compared to your zero. You had more ESPNNews games but that probably has similar viewership numbers to FSN.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 04:04 PM)Hurricane Drummer Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 04:03 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  Is invisiblehand a WSU fan or a Tulsa fan?

Idk, is Coldblooded a lizard?

He's been called worse...

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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 02:57 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


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...03-cool

Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.

The only bad reality that could come from us joining the AAC would be our seeding remaining unchanged from the days in the Valley. I think the probability of that happening is small.

To answer your question about ESPN showing Valley games: Wichita State isn't the Valley, the Valley is Wichita State. Our brand superseded our conference by a wide margin. I suspect that will be the case again this year if we play to our preseason expectations. We should be a top 10 national program that just happens to be in the AAC. Yes, this conference is better than our previous one but not by such a wide margin as to affect the Shocker brand in any substantive way.

If the other brand names in this conference get their **** together, and a few others rise to the occasion, it may be a different story. But as it stands now, all the AAC is to us is a slightly better seed so we can make deeper runs and continue to push Shocker Nation towards its full potential.

Last season in the Valley:

ESPN - 1
ESPN2 - 7
ESPN3 - 3
ESPNU - 3
CBS Sports - 5
CBS - 3

22 games on CBS or ESPN networks. The remaining games were on Cox 2022 HD.

Media Darling does not only refer to television coverage which is in large part controlled by prearranged conference contracts, but print/electronic media. The Shockers are covered ad nauseam throughout the college basketball season. It's almost too much at times.

In closing: Valley teams enjoyed prime-time exposure BECAUSE they were playing us, not the other way around. Wichita State is a media darling and Koch Arena is an American college basketball treasure with few equals.


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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-23-2017 02:57 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 12:44 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Then you would be changing the name every year.

Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


T


...03-cool

Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.
Foot, meet mouth.

Spouts a bunch of incorrect assumptions.
Yells that other group is out of touch with reality.

Maybe the AAC isn't so different from the Valley after all.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
Also, the name of this is really stupid.
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So is the name "wudizzle" but we don't tease you.
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(08-22-2017 02:23 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  What will the trophy look like?
It better have a damn digital clock or I see the league officials getting involved. Standards must be upheld
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(08-25-2017 09:32 AM)invisiblehand Wrote:  So is the name "wudizzle" but we don't tease you.

Touché
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-25-2017 09:26 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:57 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 01:19 PM)C0|db|00ded Wrote:  Example:

ESPN Announcer: Ladies and gentleman, welcome to Cincinnatti, Ohio where we have this week's AAC Power Matchup; it's the Wichita State Shockers and the Cincinnatti Bearcats - live on ESPN! *cue ESPN college basketball intro*


T


...03-cool

Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.
Foot, meet mouth.

Spouts a bunch of incorrect assumptions.
Yells that other group is out of touch with reality.

Maybe the AAC isn't so different from the Valley after all.


I swear everyone is copying fanhood lately.

Again i asked how many of your conference/regular season games were shown on espn/cbs. Not including preseason or post season tournaments since they show those games no matter what.

I looked it up. You had the Oklahoma game (at their place, you know with big xii contract), Both Illinois St games and the uni game at home. Hmmmm, four games. Only 3 from the valley.

Want to bet you get more than that in the aac? Off the top of my head, both cinci games, smu games, the uconn games, and probably the ucf games. So eight here, yeah seems like it will just be same old same old for you all and not a doubling of your exposure by making the jump.
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-25-2017 11:25 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 09:26 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:57 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:30 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Uh... I know you guys are new to the whole media attention outside of March thing, but that's already what they tend to do.
Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.
Foot, meet mouth.

Spouts a bunch of incorrect assumptions.
Yells that other group is out of touch with reality.

Maybe the AAC isn't so different from the Valley after all.


I swear everyone is copying fanhood lately.

Again i asked how many of your conference/regular season games were shown on espn/cbs. Not including preseason or post season tournaments since they show those games no matter what.

I looked it up. You had the Oklahoma game (at their place, you know with big xii contract), Both Illinois St games and the uni game at home. Hmmmm, four games. Only 3 from the valley.

Want to bet you get more than that in the aac? Off the top of my head, both cinci games, smu games, the uconn games, and probably the ucf games. So eight here, yeah seems like it will just be same old same old for you all and not a doubling of your exposure by making the jump.

Tulsa fan was talking smack about media attention. You questioned if ESPN even showed Valley games. ESPN showed 4 WSU Valley games. ESPN showed 0 Tulsa AAC games. Now which part did I lose you at so I can explain it again?
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-25-2017 01:12 PM)AndShock Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 11:25 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 09:26 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:57 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:49 PM)Wudizzle Wrote:  Is this seriously a Tulsa fan talking smack to a WSU fan about media attention?

All the lolz.

Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.
Foot, meet mouth.

Spouts a bunch of incorrect assumptions.
Yells that other group is out of touch with reality.

Maybe the AAC isn't so different from the Valley after all.


I swear everyone is copying fanhood lately.

Again i asked how many of your conference/regular season games were shown on espn/cbs. Not including preseason or post season tournaments since they show those games no matter what.

I looked it up. You had the Oklahoma game (at their place, you know with big xii contract), Both Illinois St games and the uni game at home. Hmmmm, four games. Only 3 from the valley.

Want to bet you get more than that in the aac? Off the top of my head, both cinci games, smu games, the uconn games, and probably the ucf games. So eight here, yeah seems like it will just be same old same old for you all and not a doubling of your exposure by making the jump.

Tulsa fan was talking smack about media attention. You questioned if ESPN even showed Valley games. ESPN showed 4 WSU Valley games. ESPN showed 0 Tulsa AAC games. Now which part did I lose you at so I can explain it again?


Yes, yes, you got on 3 of the valleys what 5 games?

Lol this is about the valley exposure vs the aac.

Tulsa was what 7th last year? How many valley games did evansville get on espn? Then go tell me how many cinci and smu got. Just a guess but its more than 3.

7th in the AAC is roughly equal to mvc champ, so at least you got that part right. 04-cheers

The real question is will wsu get on tv in 2019-2020 after going .500 in their new conference with their bestest team ever. 07-coffee3
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RE: Havoc in the Heartland
(08-25-2017 01:32 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 01:12 PM)AndShock Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 11:25 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-25-2017 09:26 AM)Wudizzle Wrote:  
(08-23-2017 02:57 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Lol does espn even show valley games?

I know i know, preseason tournament exposure and the ncaa. . . But that doesn't make you a media darling lol, they cover those tournaments no matter who is playing.

Lot of reality coming for wsu, some good and some bad.
Foot, meet mouth.

Spouts a bunch of incorrect assumptions.
Yells that other group is out of touch with reality.

Maybe the AAC isn't so different from the Valley after all.


I swear everyone is copying fanhood lately.

Again i asked how many of your conference/regular season games were shown on espn/cbs. Not including preseason or post season tournaments since they show those games no matter what.

I looked it up. You had the Oklahoma game (at their place, you know with big xii contract), Both Illinois St games and the uni game at home. Hmmmm, four games. Only 3 from the valley.

Want to bet you get more than that in the aac? Off the top of my head, both cinci games, smu games, the uconn games, and probably the ucf games. So eight here, yeah seems like it will just be same old same old for you all and not a doubling of your exposure by making the jump.

Tulsa fan was talking smack about media attention. You questioned if ESPN even showed Valley games. ESPN showed 4 WSU Valley games. ESPN showed 0 Tulsa AAC games. Now which part did I lose you at so I can explain it again?


Yes, yes, you got on 3 of the valleys what 5 games?

Lol this is about the valley exposure vs the aac.

Tulsa was what 7th last year? How many valley games did evansville get on espn? Then go tell me how many cinci and smu got. Just a guess but its more than 3.

7th in the AAC is roughly equal to mvc champ, so at least you got that part right. 04-cheers

The real question is will wsu get on tv in 2019-2020 after going .500 in their new conference with their bestest team ever. 07-coffee3
Wichita State had 4 Valley games on ESPN. I tried to drop a subtle hint so you would correct yourself but I guess I have to point out you not knowing how to count.

Illinois State, Northern Iowa, and Missouri State all had more ESPN conference games than Tulsa. Evansville had the same amount as Tulsa.

SMU had 6 including 2 on the flagship. I'm more excited to be on the flagship than having two extra games on TV.
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