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(08-25-2017 12:06 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Albany has to prepare for 2 styles of QB play. Good stuff.

How different are our QBs, really? All four are fairly mobile.

Even if we had named a starter they should be preparing for multiple qbs.

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(08-25-2017 12:14 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 12:06 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Albany has to prepare for 2 styles of QB play. Good stuff.

How different are our QBs, really? All four are fairly mobile.

I'm not saying LaRussa is a statue but he's not a true dual threat either.

(08-25-2017 12:14 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 12:06 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  Albany has to prepare for 2 styles of QB play. Good stuff.

How different are our QBs, really? All four are fairly mobile.

Some are different one is 6'4" another is 5'10".

My point is that we don't have a wide variety in QB styles. We don't have a true running QB in the sense that he's going to be keeping the ball a lot on read options and/or designed runs. All 4 will be pocket passers first and scramblers if the play breaks down (for the most part). Albany also has limited information on any of the QBs so they are likely preparing more for what style offense we like to run versus what QB we have behind center. I wouldn't expect the QBs role to be drastically different than the role Washington had last year.

I really think we know very little about what these quarterbacks can and will do. I'm sure it is a great competition and I feel like 3 of them will probably be able to run as well as pass into the future here. We should not have statue of liberty quarterbacks.

(08-25-2017 12:56 PM)odu83alumni Wrote:  I really think we know very little about what these quarterbacks can and will do. I'm sure it is a great competition and I feel like 3 of them will probably be able to run as well as pass into the future here. We should not have statue of liberty quarterbacks.

Which one of the 4 can't run?

(08-25-2017 12:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 12:56 PM)odu83alumni Wrote:  I really think we know very little about what these quarterbacks can and will do. I'm sure it is a great competition and I feel like 3 of them will probably be able to run as well as pass into the future here. We should not have statue of liberty quarterbacks.

Which one of the 4 can't run?

You're asking that as if there is little to no difference in athletic ability between each of these four guys. Yes, all four can tuck it and run when the middle of the field opens up. But how many can beat guys around the edge consistently?

(08-25-2017 12:58 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 12:56 PM)odu83alumni Wrote:  I really think we know very little about what these quarterbacks can and will do. I'm sure it is a great competition and I feel like 3 of them will probably be able to run as well as pass into the future here. We should not have statue of liberty quarterbacks.

Which one of the 4 can't run?

I don't see BL running with the ball consistently over the course of the whole season. I can see him occasionally trying to escape but can't see it happening over the whole season. I have a feeling the coaches realize this. So it is a good thing we have 4.

I find if interesting to see so many experts on QBs at ODU when 3 of the 4 have never played a snap in a real game at ODU.

(08-25-2017 01:04 PM)ODU True Blue Wrote:  I find if interesting to see so many experts on QBs at ODU when 3 of the 4 have never played a snap in a real game at ODU.

That is exactly what I'm saying.

Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

(08-25-2017 01:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

That's quite an accusation on your part. Without seeing all in game action, it is hard to come to any conclusion either way.

I will note that both Hoy and Arnold were listed as dual threat QBs by recruiting services. Williams was listed as a pro style QB. I have seen LaRussa play, as everyone else has, and I would peg him as a pro style QB. That is what I'm basing this on.

(08-25-2017 12:51 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  My point is that we don't have a wide variety in QB styles. We don't have a true running QB in the sense that he's going to be keeping the ball a lot on read options and/or designed runs. All 4 will be pocket passers first and scramblers if the play breaks down (for the most part). Albany also has limited information on any of the QBs so they are likely preparing more for what style offense we like to run versus what QB we have behind center. I wouldn't expect the QBs role to be drastically different than the role Washington had last year.

I think this is spot on.

(08-25-2017 01:21 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

That's quite an accusation on your part. Without seeing all in game action, it is hard to come to any conclusion either way.

I will note that both Hoy and Arnold were listed as dual threat QBs by recruiting services. Williams was listed as a pro style QB. I have seen LaRussa play, as everyone else has, and I would peg him as a pro style QB. That is what I'm basing this on.

I have seen high school film of all 4 of them, practice film, and only ODU game film of LaRussa. What other reason would people claim he can't run be because he is just as athletic and fast as some of our other QBs. Has anyone seen LaRussa play basketball? He is a pretty athletic kid. Arnold, OTOH, is not the speedster it seems that some on here think he is.

Williams appears to be very fast. Hoy seems to the naked eye to be somewhere in between.

None of them are going to be true running QBs though, I don't believe.

(08-25-2017 01:27 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:21 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

That's quite an accusation on your part. Without seeing all in game action, it is hard to come to any conclusion either way.

I will note that both Hoy and Arnold were listed as dual threat QBs by recruiting services. Williams was listed as a pro style QB. I have seen LaRussa play, as everyone else has, and I would peg him as a pro style QB. That is what I'm basing this on.

I have seen high school film of all 4 of them, practice film, and only ODU game film of LaRussa. What other reason would people claim he can't run be because he is just as athletic and fast as some of our other QBs. Has anyone seen LaRussa play basketball? He is a pretty athletic kid. Arnold, OTOH, is not the speedster it seems that some on here think he is.

Williams appears to be very fast. Hoy seems to the naked eye to be somewhere in between.

None of them are going to be true running QBs though, I don't believe.

It's almost as if you are holding other's comments against me. It's weird.

I freely admitted he wasnt a statue. I freely admitted they are all capable of running when a play breaks down and the middle opens up. I will also freely admit that they will all be pass first.

But let's not act as if the oppositions practices won't be effected if he just names BL the starter.

(08-25-2017 01:47 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:27 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:21 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

That's quite an accusation on your part. Without seeing all in game action, it is hard to come to any conclusion either way.

I will note that both Hoy and Arnold were listed as dual threat QBs by recruiting services. Williams was listed as a pro style QB. I have seen LaRussa play, as everyone else has, and I would peg him as a pro style QB. That is what I'm basing this on.

I have seen high school film of all 4 of them, practice film, and only ODU game film of LaRussa. What other reason would people claim he can't run be because he is just as athletic and fast as some of our other QBs. Has anyone seen LaRussa play basketball? He is a pretty athletic kid. Arnold, OTOH, is not the speedster it seems that some on here think he is.

Williams appears to be very fast. Hoy seems to the naked eye to be somewhere in between.

None of them are going to be true running QBs though, I don't believe.

It's almost as if you are holding other's comments against me. It's weird.

I freely admitted he wasnt a statue. I freely admitted they are all capable of running when a play breaks down and the middle opens up. I will also freely admit that they will all be pass first.

But let's not act as if the oppositions practices won't be effected if he just names BL the starter.

No, not directed at you, just responding to you. There are people on here that don't think LaRussa can move, but that Arnold is a dual threat QB.

IMO, there isn't a ton of differences in the game planning of our QBs.

(08-25-2017 01:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

Wow. I think all of your posts confirm it. You are here to run your agenda of arguing. Maybe people take into consideration what scouting sites have said about each. Blake is listed as pro while Arnold is listed as dual. But you are the all knowing expert.

(08-25-2017 02:35 PM)ODU2011 Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

Wow. I think all of your posts confirm it. You are here to run your agenda of arguing. Maybe people take into consideration what scouting sites have said about each. Blake is listed as pro while Arnold is listed as dual. But you are the all knowing expert.

Those mean nothing.

(08-25-2017 01:21 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-25-2017 01:13 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Drayton Arnold and Blake LaRussa are essentially the same size; Arnold being only slightly bigger. Neither guy is significantly faster than the other. Williams and Hoy seem more suited to running (and appear faster). I think there are some stereotypes at play here.

That's quite an accusation on your part. Without seeing all in game action, it is hard to come to any conclusion either way.

I will note that both Hoy and Arnold were listed as dual threat QBs by recruiting services. Williams was listed as a pro style QB. I have seen LaRussa play, as everyone else has, and I would peg him as a pro style QB. That is what I'm basing this on.

I know one thing. BL is quick. I also know another thing, Bobby is not going to have a "running qb" in the sense that they take a ton of designed runs. With that in mind, they are all the same style of qb. They may have some different talents, but they are all quick, they will all be asked to scramble with the intention of completing passes, and they all have the capability of legging out a 3rd down if they have to.