RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 12:30 PM)JDTulane Wrote:
(08-21-2017 12:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 12:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote:
(08-21-2017 11:56 AM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 10:16 AM)JDTulane Wrote: A minute in and everyone involved in this video is embarrassing. The video guy, the girls, all annoying. "I'm here to talk" yet all he's done is try to rile them up.
When given a chance to explain why their movement should be supported "empathy" was the response. Failed chance. What an empty statement.
His "oppression" was being picked on as a white kid? OKAY. SHOCKER that this went no where.
"You're a ***** that never got laid" LOL? Moron.
Kronke, the idea that he approached them for actual conversation is ridiculous. This was the most passive aggressive "listening" I've ever heard. Dude went in with the intent of generating a viral video and it worked.
Now 5 minutes in and things get heated. Troll was asked to leave like 50x and kept at it.
5-8 is him just walking away. He claims he was arrested. Seemed more like he was just escorted away? Is there an aftermath?
If you honestly believe any of this, you may very well be alt-left.
"Those people loosely belong on my 'team', so I have to back them up no matter what. Therefore, the girls are wrong, but so is the camera guy, because reasons."
...... how did I back them up IN ANY capacity? I literally called them embarrassing, moronic, and void of substance.
It was instinct, you couldn't help yourself. Even though the camera guy in the video did absolutely nothing wrong, to you he's the same as the radical alt-leftists, because he is right wing.
I've read dozens of comments about that video, and not a single one said the camera guy was out of line -- because he wasn't.
So now I have equated the videographer with radical alt-leftists? I've insinuated he is right wing? I've called him out of line?
Quite the leaps you're making here.
I called him passive-aggressive and said he was likely trolling them for a good video. I stand by that.
You didn't insinuate anything, he claimed to be right-wing/a conservative in the video.
He wasn't passive-aggressive, he was sincere. You just WANTED him to be passive-aggressive so you could attribute blame to both sides, and could avoid talking about the fact that the radical alt-left is a growing problem in this country.
(08-21-2017 12:30 PM)JDTulane Wrote: And I'm still waiting to hear how I "backed them up"
You made an (instinctual) false equivalency with the camera guy and the radical alt-leftists, so you could attribute blame to both sides. Call it what you want.
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2017 12:37 PM by Kronke.)
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 12:37 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 12:30 PM)JDTulane Wrote:
(08-21-2017 12:18 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 12:13 PM)JDTulane Wrote:
(08-21-2017 11:56 AM)Kronke Wrote: If you honestly believe any of this, you may very well be alt-left.
"Those people loosely belong on my 'team', so I have to back them up no matter what. Therefore, the girls are wrong, but so is the camera guy, because reasons."
...... how did I back them up IN ANY capacity? I literally called them embarrassing, moronic, and void of substance.
It was instinct, you couldn't help yourself. Even though the camera guy in the video did absolutely nothing wrong, to you he's the same as the radical alt-leftists, because he is right wing.
I've read dozens of comments about that video, and not a single one said the camera guy was out of line -- because he wasn't.
So now I have equated the videographer with radical alt-leftists? I've insinuated he is right wing? I've called him out of line?
Quite the leaps you're making here.
I called him passive-aggressive and said he was likely trolling them for a good video. I stand by that.
You didn't insinuate anything, he claimed to be right-wing/a conservative in the video.
He wasn't passive-aggressive, he was sincere. You just WANTED him to be passive-aggressive so you could attribute blame to both sides, and could avoid talking about the fact that the radical alt-left is a growing problem in this country.
(08-21-2017 12:30 PM)JDTulane Wrote: And I'm still waiting to hear how I "backed them up"
You made an (instinctual) false equivalency with the camera guy and the radical alt-leftists, so you could attribute blame to both sides. Call it what you want.
Quote: to you he's the same as the radical alt-leftists, because he is right wing.
So despite never bringing up that he was right-wing I somehow magically equated him to alt-leftists (which I also never phrased)? Uhhhhh no. You're the king of assigning viewpoints and putting words in people's mouths today huh?
The only "equivalency" that I stated about either side on this video was that they embarrassed themselves and were annoying af. Which I stand by.
Quote: could avoid talking about the fact that the radical alt-left is a growing problem in this country.
ALSO completely out of left field, holy fuckin christ.
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2017 12:45 PM by JDTulane.)
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 11:23 AM)JDTulane Wrote:
(08-21-2017 10:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:
Quote:5-8 is him just walking away. He claims he was arrested. Seemed more like he was just escorted away? Is there an aftermath?
I guess you didnt notice he wasn't walking but being carried. And if you notice the angle of his arm behind his back, kind of hard to walk at a 30 degree angle to the ground with your hands unmoving behind you back. I suggest you watch that again and come back with a book report.
He went in with the intent of chronicling them being intolerant dicks. Looks like he succeeded.
Didn't watch that part that closely.
He went in with the intent of stirring the hornets nest AND THEN chronicling them being intolerant dicks.
All I got from this video is the reminder that trolls exist, in-eloquent protesters exist, and mob mentality exists.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 01:49 PM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:
(08-21-2017 11:23 AM)JDTulane Wrote:
(08-21-2017 10:23 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:
Quote:5-8 is him just walking away. He claims he was arrested. Seemed more like he was just escorted away? Is there an aftermath?
I guess you didnt notice he wasn't walking but being carried. And if you notice the angle of his arm behind his back, kind of hard to walk at a 30 degree angle to the ground with your hands unmoving behind you back. I suggest you watch that again and come back with a book report.
He went in with the intent of chronicling them being intolerant dicks. Looks like he succeeded.
Didn't watch that part that closely.
He went in with the intent of stirring the hornets nest AND THEN chronicling them being intolerant dicks.
All I got from this video is the reminder that trolls exist, in-eloquent protesters exist, and mob mentality exists.
Oh wait. We knew that already.
I thought you self banned?
Felt like a year (ish, I made it what...10 months?) was enough, got bored, and wanted to comment on the downward spiral Trump's presidency has taken.
I missed you all too much :) PM'd UTSA about it and he's not very happy with me but whatevs. I'll confess to my priest next chance I get and move on.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
Unhinged. "This is a hate free zone!" yelled at the top of her lungs doesn't conjure up images of Woodstock, peace loving hippies or little puppies. They are literally everything they claim to be against. And why aren't these people working or in class???
Meanwhile I just received another 1000 rounds of .223 and 900 rounds of .9mm. Which reminds me, I'm getting low on .40's, down under 500 rounds.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 08:14 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Idiot literally intended to aggravate. He just wanted to prove that the left was just as bad as the right and get famous in the process.
Generally speaking, "reasonable conversations" don't exist by sticking a camera in someone's face and asking them questions.
I don't think they knew he had a camera running. Rabid alt-leftists are known to slap at cameras, and I never once saw any of them even look at it.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 08:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:14 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Idiot literally intended to aggravate. He just wanted to prove that the left was just as bad as the right and get famous in the process.
Generally speaking, "reasonable conversations" don't exist by sticking a camera in someone's face and asking them questions.
I don't think they knew he had a camera running. Rabid alt-leftists are known to slap at cameras, and I never once saw any of them even look at it.
Maybe...but the point still stands. The idiot in that video had no intention of having a reasonable conversation...he wanted to provide video proof that the left is as bad as the right, hopeful that people would be desperate enough to prove it that they would share and link his video on message boards like this one.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged
(08-21-2017 08:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:14 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Idiot literally intended to aggravate. He just wanted to prove that the left was just as bad as the right and get famous in the process.
Generally speaking, "reasonable conversations" don't exist by sticking a camera in someone's face and asking them questions.
I don't think they knew he had a camera running. Rabid alt-leftists are known to slap at cameras, and I never once saw any of them even look at it.
Maybe...but the point still stands. The idiot in that video had no intention of having a reasonable conversation...he wanted to provide video proof that the left is as bad as the right, hopeful that people would be desperate enough to prove it that they would share and link his video on message boards like this one.
As bad as the right? Give me a break, conservative rallies/speeches are always peaceful and enjoyable. Alt-left "counter-protests" (even though they were just "free speech protesters" in Boston, since the free speech rally was in no way a protest) are hell on Earth, as seen in the video. A bunch of deranged millennials basking in their own failure and self-hatred, just waiting for a thought criminal (anyone that doesn't toe the alt-left ideological line to the T) to make the mistake of striking up a conversation, so they can have an excuse to flip out and become violent.
You admit that your original premise was wrong, and instead of just taking the video for what it is, you're reaching for something that isn't there in attempt to make a false equivalence.
(This post was last modified: 08-21-2017 08:43 PM by Kronke.)
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
If you walk into a charged atmosphere(ANYWHERE) of nitwits that have the opposing views of yourself and expect anything other than the result...You are dumb as box of rocks.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 08:42 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:14 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Idiot literally intended to aggravate. He just wanted to prove that the left was just as bad as the right and get famous in the process.
Generally speaking, "reasonable conversations" don't exist by sticking a camera in someone's face and asking them questions.
I don't think they knew he had a camera running. Rabid alt-leftists are known to slap at cameras, and I never once saw any of them even look at it.
Maybe...but the point still stands. The idiot in that video had no intention of having a reasonable conversation...he wanted to provide video proof that the left is as bad as the right, hopeful that people would be desperate enough to prove it that they would share and link his video on message boards like this one.
As bad as the right? Give me a break, conservative rallies/speeches are always peaceful and enjoyable. Alt-left "counter-protests" (even though they were just "free speech protesters" in Boston, since the free speech rally was in no way a protest) are hell on Earth, as seen in the video. A bunch of deranged millennials basking in their own failure and self-hatred, just waiting for a thought criminal (anyone that doesn't toe the alt-left ideological line to the T) to make the mistake of striking up a conversation, so they can have an excuse to flip out and become violent.
You admit that your original premise was wrong, and instead of just taking the video for what it is, you're reaching for something that isn't there in attempt to make a false equivalence.
There are idiots on both sides. Even President Fired managed to point that out.
Do you not agree with that assertion, or are you painting all Liberals with the same brush? No different than a Liberal claiming Neo Nazi's and Conservatives are the same thing.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 08:56 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:42 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:28 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:21 PM)Kronke Wrote:
(08-21-2017 08:14 PM)chiefsfan Wrote: Idiot literally intended to aggravate. He just wanted to prove that the left was just as bad as the right and get famous in the process.
Generally speaking, "reasonable conversations" don't exist by sticking a camera in someone's face and asking them questions.
I don't think they knew he had a camera running. Rabid alt-leftists are known to slap at cameras, and I never once saw any of them even look at it.
Maybe...but the point still stands. The idiot in that video had no intention of having a reasonable conversation...he wanted to provide video proof that the left is as bad as the right, hopeful that people would be desperate enough to prove it that they would share and link his video on message boards like this one.
As bad as the right? Give me a break, conservative rallies/speeches are always peaceful and enjoyable. Alt-left "counter-protests" (even though they were just "free speech protesters" in Boston, since the free speech rally was in no way a protest) are hell on Earth, as seen in the video. A bunch of deranged millennials basking in their own failure and self-hatred, just waiting for a thought criminal (anyone that doesn't toe the alt-left ideological line to the T) to make the mistake of striking up a conversation, so they can have an excuse to flip out and become violent.
You admit that your original premise was wrong, and instead of just taking the video for what it is, you're reaching for something that isn't there in attempt to make a false equivalence.
There are idiots on both sides. Even President Fired managed to point that out.
Do you not agree with that assertion, or are you painting all Liberals with the same brush? No different than a Liberal claiming Neo Nazi's and Conservatives are the same thing.
There are indeed idiots on both sides.
Conservatives disavow the 500 or so Nazis there are in this country, but the alt-left is growing and now even gaining mainstream support from the likes of CNN.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 10:16 AM)JDTulane Wrote: A minute in and everyone involved in this video is embarrassing. The video guy, the girls, all annoying. "I'm here to talk" yet all he's done is try to rile them up.
When given a chance to explain why their movement should be supported "empathy" was the response. Failed chance. What an empty statement.
His "oppression" was being picked on as a white kid? OKAY. SHOCKER that this went no where.
"You're a ***** that never got laid" LOL? Moron.
Kronke, the idea that he approached them for actual conversation is ridiculous. This was the most passive aggressive "listening" I've ever heard. Dude went in with the intent of generating a viral video and it worked.
Now 5 minutes in and things get heated. Troll was asked to leave like 50x and kept at it.
5-8 is him just walking away. He claims he was arrested. Seemed more like he was just escorted away? Is there an aftermath?
I cant even respond to this gibberish.
Even banned, you can't be serious.
My goodness. Who on earth could tacitly support THAT?
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
Dunk, I placed him ignore last week. He made a bet and lost it, and now he posts here disregarding his word. In my book, that merits no consideration nor response. Just my 2 cents, but ignoring him might be a good path.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
He was obviously there to chronicle how the protesters were pretty hate filled. I wouldnt say he was just minding his own business, but nothing he said should have generated anything close to the level of anger that quickly developed. I mean lets be honest, there is a dude there hiding his face---you dont do that when your intentions are pristine. If a guy with his face covered comes into the any establishment I happen to be in, Im rapidly hitting the exit because I know bad stuff is about to happen.
RE: MUST WATCH: An Honest Attempt At A Reasonable Discussion W/ The Unhinged, Alt-Left
(08-21-2017 11:24 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote: Dunk, I placed him ignore last week. He made a bet and lost it, and now he posts here disregarding his word. In my book, that merits no consideration nor response. Just my 2 cents, but ignoring him might be a good path.