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(08-20-2017 02:03 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  That SJSU game is actually a little scary for USF. They'll come in as a heavy favorite with a new coach and a lot of national attention.

That's my fear. We are a 20 point favorite even though we are traveling 2000+ miles with a new coach and no chance to work out kinks.

Yes, i know we have playmakers and SJSUs defense is supposed to be a sieve, but i've seen a lot of strange things watching football.
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Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year
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(08-20-2017 04:26 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 02:03 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  That SJSU game is actually a little scary for USF. They'll come in as a heavy favorite with a new coach and a lot of national attention.

That's my fear. We are a 20 point favorite even though we are traveling 2000+ miles with a new coach and no chance to work out kinks.

Yes, i know we have playmakers and SJSUs defense is supposed to be a sieve, but i've seen a lot of strange things watching football.

I think USF has the players for 10 wins.

What kinda makes me nervous about them is that they just hired a coach who screwed up at Texas.

That... ...just sounds impossible to me on the surface. You can do whatever the hell you want at Texas. How do you underachieve that badly there? Is Strong really any better than guys like Frost/Fritz/Ken N./Norvell - who have a track record of doing way more with way less?
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(08-20-2017 08:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year

I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario (minus the Arkansas State vs SMU game). I think you are underestimating FAU, how good Army is supposed to be this year, New Mexico, and Toledo. I just do not see how Toledo loses to Tulsa. The Rockets will be explosive.
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(08-20-2017 12:27 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 12:23 PM)KNIGHTTIME Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 11:34 AM)fanhood Wrote:  14-8

Which 8?

Dont encourage the cherry picker, you'll make me spend time looking up actual stats and context.

I'm sure three of them are mwc 05-ban

Wow. Ironic.
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(08-21-2017 02:09 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year

I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario (minus the Arkansas State vs SMU game). I think you are underestimating FAU, how good Army is supposed to be this year, New Mexico, and Toledo. I just do not see how Toledo loses to Tulsa. The Rockets will be explosive.


Unhunh. . . Lets see here, the fau and fiu were terrible last year, both will be bad this year. With both having an outside shot at making it a .500 year if they get some breaks. Army will be battling to be 6-6 or 7-5. I also have them winning against temple who should fall off, but be a solid team and have them beating tulane. Calling the army navy game is always hard but it wasn't navy's focus last year, i doubt they will do that two years in a row. So pretty sure i gave army plenty of credit.

New Mexico is not as good version of navy last year, who Tulsa took to wire. We have beaten new mexico recently (as in this senior class' played in it). It was a thumping. Even given we are up in the air on qb (neither player competing has past playing time) we return our o-line and a 1000+ yard rusher. We just have to score as new mexico will eat clock, so despite your unfounded mwc bias i bet vegas has us as favorites. Perhaps unm upsets us anything can happen in college football but it will be considered an upset if it happens.

Yeah we have heard of these explosive mac teams before, several times. Tulsa has put a beating on every one of them. Like ugly, by 32, 57, 45 points. We lost to bowling green durring a terrible year. So anything is possible but the past indicates tulsa is a better program than our mac opponents. I would expect another multiple touchdown victory although probably not a blow out.

I know it upsets you getting left behind with the rest of the mwc, but your 8 losses are laughable and my prediction more in line with the AAC trend record wise vs the G4. So my prediction isn't a best case scenario its just a good one. Perfect would be smu with the mild upset vs ark st, ecu with a nice upset of a pretty good byu squad, and temple having a smooth transition to get army back for a loss it shouldnt have had last year.
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(08-20-2017 08:35 AM)Cubanbull Wrote:  FIU at UCF
Marshall at UC
UTSA at Houston
Rice at Houston
Navy at FAU
North Texas at SMU
Tulane at FIU

Air Force vs Navy
USF at San Jose State
New Mexico at Tulsa

UC at Miami OH
Tulsa at Toledo

LaMonroe at Memphis
Memphis at Georgia State
Arkansas State at SMU
LaLafayetter at Tulsa

BYU at ECU
Army at Navy
Mass at USF
Mass at Temple
Temple at Army
Army at Tulane

I honestly think we can almost win them all.

BYU is the biggest favorite and should take out ECU easily.
ASU has a great shot at SMU even though the stangs will be the favorite.
Miami OH vs Cincinnati is a major toss up IMO.

Besides those 3 games we should take out the rest.

BYU is the only team that is a favorite from the 22 match ups.
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(08-22-2017 12:56 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-21-2017 02:09 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year

I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario (minus the Arkansas State vs SMU game). I think you are underestimating FAU, how good Army is supposed to be this year, New Mexico, and Toledo. I just do not see how Toledo loses to Tulsa. The Rockets will be explosive.


Unhunh. . . Lets see here, the fau and fiu were terrible last year, both will be bad this year. With both having an outside shot at making it a .500 year if they get some breaks. Army will be battling to be 6-6 or 7-5. I also have them winning against temple who should fall off, but be a solid team and have them beating tulane. Calling the army navy game is always hard but it wasn't navy's focus last year, i doubt they will do that two years in a row. So pretty sure i gave army plenty of credit.

New Mexico is not as good version of navy last year, who Tulsa took to wire. We have beaten new mexico recently (as in this senior class' played in it). It was a thumping. Even given we are up in the air on qb (neither player competing has past playing time) we return our o-line and a 1000+ yard rusher. We just have to score as new mexico will eat clock, so despite your unfounded mwc bias i bet vegas has us as favorites. Perhaps unm upsets us anything can happen in college football but it will be considered an upset if it happens.

Yeah we have heard of these explosive mac teams before, several times. Tulsa has put a beating on every one of them. Like ugly, by 32, 57, 45 points. We lost to bowling green durring a terrible year. So anything is possible but the past indicates tulsa is a better program than our mac opponents. I would expect another multiple touchdown victory although probably not a blow out.

I know it upsets you getting left behind with the rest of the mwc, but your 8 losses are laughable and my prediction more in line with the AAC trend record wise vs the G4. So my prediction isn't a best case scenario its just a good one. Perfect would be smu with the mild upset vs ark st, ecu with a nice upset of a pretty good byu squad, and temple having a smooth transition to get army back for a loss it shouldnt have had last year.

I didn't even read this. The length of it made me laugh enough, to just move one.04-cheers
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(08-22-2017 02:38 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:56 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-21-2017 02:09 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year

I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario (minus the Arkansas State vs SMU game). I think you are underestimating FAU, how good Army is supposed to be this year, New Mexico, and Toledo. I just do not see how Toledo loses to Tulsa. The Rockets will be explosive.


Unhunh. . . Lets see here, the fau and fiu were terrible last year, both will be bad this year. With both having an outside shot at making it a .500 year if they get some breaks. Army will be battling to be 6-6 or 7-5. I also have them winning against temple who should fall off, but be a solid team and have them beating tulane. Calling the army navy game is always hard but it wasn't navy's focus last year, i doubt they will do that two years in a row. So pretty sure i gave army plenty of credit.

New Mexico is not as good version of navy last year, who Tulsa took to wire. We have beaten new mexico recently (as in this senior class' played in it). It was a thumping. Even given we are up in the air on qb (neither player competing has past playing time) we return our o-line and a 1000+ yard rusher. We just have to score as new mexico will eat clock, so despite your unfounded mwc bias i bet vegas has us as favorites. Perhaps unm upsets us anything can happen in college football but it will be considered an upset if it happens.

Yeah we have heard of these explosive mac teams before, several times. Tulsa has put a beating on every one of them. Like ugly, by 32, 57, 45 points. We lost to bowling green durring a terrible year. So anything is possible but the past indicates tulsa is a better program than our mac opponents. I would expect another multiple touchdown victory although probably not a blow out.

I know it upsets you getting left behind with the rest of the mwc, but your 8 losses are laughable and my prediction more in line with the AAC trend record wise vs the G4. So my prediction isn't a best case scenario its just a good one. Perfect would be smu with the mild upset vs ark st, ecu with a nice upset of a pretty good byu squad, and temple having a smooth transition to get army back for a loss it shouldnt have had last year.

I didn't even read this. The length of it made me laugh enough, to just move one.04-cheers


Fanhood going to fanhood, can't say i've missed it

So lets review

Fanhood:" you dont know what you are talking about, thats a best case . . ."

Me: here are things to back it up and info i used to decide.

Fanhood: oh crap he knows what he is talking about
"Didnt read it"

Also fanhood:

Mwc has similar budgets to the AAC picks three, entire thread shows different
I'm leaving for a month*

I wont post here for a month, shows up a week later to say he wont be posting

I'm objective, posters call him out for blantant, obvious bias. Fair and balanced fanhood pretends like it never happened.

Fanhood fox news of message boards.

*thanks by the way, appreciated it, although you over exaggerated the time
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Toledo is going to be really good, would expect them to be a slight favorite in their home game against Tulsa.
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FWIW, Houston is at UTSA. Still think we should win.
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I see 4 losses max against the mid-majors.
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(08-22-2017 03:11 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 02:38 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:56 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-21-2017 02:09 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year

I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario (minus the Arkansas State vs SMU game). I think you are underestimating FAU, how good Army is supposed to be this year, New Mexico, and Toledo. I just do not see how Toledo loses to Tulsa. The Rockets will be explosive.


Unhunh. . . Lets see here, the fau and fiu were terrible last year, both will be bad this year. With both having an outside shot at making it a .500 year if they get some breaks. Army will be battling to be 6-6 or 7-5. I also have them winning against temple who should fall off, but be a solid team and have them beating tulane. Calling the army navy game is always hard but it wasn't navy's focus last year, i doubt they will do that two years in a row. So pretty sure i gave army plenty of credit.

New Mexico is not as good version of navy last year, who Tulsa took to wire. We have beaten new mexico recently (as in this senior class' played in it). It was a thumping. Even given we are up in the air on qb (neither player competing has past playing time) we return our o-line and a 1000+ yard rusher. We just have to score as new mexico will eat clock, so despite your unfounded mwc bias i bet vegas has us as favorites. Perhaps unm upsets us anything can happen in college football but it will be considered an upset if it happens.

Yeah we have heard of these explosive mac teams before, several times. Tulsa has put a beating on every one of them. Like ugly, by 32, 57, 45 points. We lost to bowling green durring a terrible year. So anything is possible but the past indicates tulsa is a better program than our mac opponents. I would expect another multiple touchdown victory although probably not a blow out.

I know it upsets you getting left behind with the rest of the mwc, but your 8 losses are laughable and my prediction more in line with the AAC trend record wise vs the G4. So my prediction isn't a best case scenario its just a good one. Perfect would be smu with the mild upset vs ark st, ecu with a nice upset of a pretty good byu squad, and temple having a smooth transition to get army back for a loss it shouldnt have had last year.

I didn't even read this. The length of it made me laugh enough, to just move one.04-cheers


Fanhood going to fanhood, can't say i've missed it

So lets review

Fanhood:" you dont know what you are talking about, thats a best case . . ."

Me: here are things to back it up and info i used to decide.

Fanhood: oh crap he knows what he is talking about
"Didnt read it"

Also fanhood:

Mwc has similar budgets to the AAC picks three, entire thread shows different
I'm leaving for a month*

I wont post here for a month, shows up a week later to say he wont be posting

I'm objective, posters call him out for blantant, obvious bias. Fair and balanced fanhood pretends like it never happened.

Fanhood fox news of message boards.

*thanks by the way, appreciated it, although you over exaggerated the time

Ha! Was running to catch my connection in Paris. Sorry pal.

I find it amusing how you can take the comment "I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario" and "I think you are underestimating" three teams, as me saying "you don't know what you are talking about." It just goes to show how emotional you are when analyzing the games. I predicted 14-8. That would be a pretty good showing for the AAC. Naturally, it could probably go +3 or -3 either way. Would you feel better with a 16-6 prediction? I think I was being generous. I predict that SMU will beat Arkansas State and UC will beat Miami of Ohio. But if you don't think UC could possibly lose in Oxford, I am not sure what to tell you.

Oh, and I am back from my long trip. It is game week baby!
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Vs CUSA- 7 games (5-2)

FIU at UCF - win
Marshall at UC - win (Phil Steele says Marshall will be one of his most improved teams)
UTSA at Houston - win (tough game on the road)
Rice at Houston - win
Navy at FAU - loss (FAU wins by two scores)
North Texas at SMU - win (Toss-up)
Tulane at FIU - loss (toss up)


Vs MWC- 3 games (2-1)

Air Force vs Navy - win (toss-up)
USF at San Jose State - win
New Mexico at Tulsa - loss (Toss-up


Vs MAC- 2 games (1-1)

UC at Miami Oh - win (toss-up)
Tulsa at Toledo - loss


Vs SunBelt-4 games (4-0)

LaMonroe at Memphis - win
Memphis at Georgia State - win
Arkansas State at SMU - win (toss-up)
Louisiana at Tulsa - win


Vs Independents- 6 games (2-4)

BYU at ECU - loss
Army at Navy - loss (toss-up)
Mass at USF - win
Mass at Temple win (Tough game - UMASS will be much improved)
Temple at Army - loss
Army at Tulane - loss
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(08-22-2017 12:56 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-21-2017 02:09 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year

I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario (minus the Arkansas State vs SMU game). I think you are underestimating FAU, how good Army is supposed to be this year, New Mexico, and Toledo. I just do not see how Toledo loses to Tulsa. The Rockets will be explosive.


Unhunh. . . Lets see here, the fau and fiu were terrible last year, both will be bad this year. With both having an outside shot at making it a .500 year if they get some breaks. Army will be battling to be 6-6 or 7-5. I also have them winning against temple who should fall off, but be a solid team and have them beating tulane. Calling the army navy game is always hard but it wasn't navy's focus last year, i doubt they will do that two years in a row. So pretty sure i gave army plenty of credit.

New Mexico is not as good version of navy last year, who Tulsa took to wire. We have beaten new mexico recently (as in this senior class' played in it). It was a thumping. Even given we are up in the air on qb (neither player competing has past playing time) we return our o-line and a 1000+ yard rusher. We just have to score as new mexico will eat clock, so despite your unfounded mwc bias i bet vegas has us as favorites. Perhaps unm upsets us anything can happen in college football but it will be considered an upset if it happens.

Yeah we have heard of these explosive mac teams before, several times. Tulsa has put a beating on every one of them. Like ugly, by 32, 57, 45 points. We lost to bowling green durring a terrible year. So anything is possible but the past indicates tulsa is a better program than our mac opponents. I would expect another multiple touchdown victory although probably not a blow out.

I know it upsets you getting left behind with the rest of the mwc, but your 8 losses are laughable and my prediction more in line with the AAC trend record wise vs the G4. So my prediction isn't a best case scenario its just a good one. Perfect would be smu with the mild upset vs ark st, ecu with a nice upset of a pretty good byu squad, and temple having a smooth transition to get army back for a loss it shouldnt have had last year.

Which explosive MAC teams?
You mean like last season that Offensive juggernaut, CMU, that was 83rd in scoring. Or was it Ball State in 2008 that had been just blown out by Buffalo the game before or BGSU in 2007 that was blown out by a 6-7 Miami of Ohio team?
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Army isn't consistent. They'll split the Temple/Tulane games, and are probably a slight underdog to Navy. Tulane is not a good matchup for Army. They are now well versed in option defending due to practicing vs. a Fritz offense AND they will already have faced an option team in Week 2 against Navy.

Not to mention, Army teams have shown a tendency to fall off after making a bowl.
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(08-22-2017 05:26 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Army isn't consistent. They'll split the Temple/Tulane games, and are probably a slight underdog to Navy. Tulane is not a good matchup for Army. They are now well versed in option defending due to practicing vs. a Fritz offense AND they will already have faced an option team in Week 2 against Navy.

Not to mention, Army teams have shown a tendency to fall off after making a bowl.

In fairness, Army was consistent against the AAC last year. They did have a bad loss against Buffalo though.

Also, you cannot equate what Army did in 1997 and 2011 to this year. Today's players were in diapers, and hadn't hit puberty yet based on your reference. Those seasons have nothing to do with this one.
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(08-22-2017 04:30 PM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:56 AM)TU4ever Wrote:  
(08-21-2017 02:09 AM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-20-2017 08:44 PM)TU4ever Wrote:  Vs CUSA- 7 games (7-0)

FIU at UCF win
Marshall at UC win
UTSA at Houston win
Rice at Houston win
Navy at FAU win
North Texas at SMU win
Tulane at FIU win


Vs MWC- 3 games (3-0)

Air Force vs Navy win
USF at San Jose State win
New Mexico at Tulsa win


Vs MAC- 2 games (2-0)

UC at Miami Oh win
Tulsa at Toledo toss up but i will call it a w for us win


Vs SunBelt-4 games (3-1)

LaMonroe at Memphis win
Memphis at Georgia State win
Arkansas State at SMU loss
LaLafayetter at Tulsa win (they're just lousiana by the way)


Vs Independents- 6 games (4-2)

BYU at ECU loss
Army at Navy toss up (but navy will be mad so, win)
Mass at USF win
Mass at Temple win
Temple at Army toss up (loss though as temple has growing pains and army has confidence from last year)
Army at Tulane loss


19-3 about what we did last year

I think what you have laid out here is possible, but it is the best case scenario (minus the Arkansas State vs SMU game). I think you are underestimating FAU, how good Army is supposed to be this year, New Mexico, and Toledo. I just do not see how Toledo loses to Tulsa. The Rockets will be explosive.


Unhunh. . . Lets see here, the fau and fiu were terrible last year, both will be bad this year. With both having an outside shot at making it a .500 year if they get some breaks. Army will be battling to be 6-6 or 7-5. I also have them winning against temple who should fall off, but be a solid team and have them beating tulane. Calling the army navy game is always hard but it wasn't navy's focus last year, i doubt they will do that two years in a row. So pretty sure i gave army plenty of credit.

New Mexico is not as good version of navy last year, who Tulsa took to wire. We have beaten new mexico recently (as in this senior class' played in it). It was a thumping. Even given we are up in the air on qb (neither player competing has past playing time) we return our o-line and a 1000+ yard rusher. We just have to score as new mexico will eat clock, so despite your unfounded mwc bias i bet vegas has us as favorites. Perhaps unm upsets us anything can happen in college football but it will be considered an upset if it happens.

Yeah we have heard of these explosive mac teams before, several times. Tulsa has put a beating on every one of them. Like ugly, by 32, 57, 45 points. We lost to bowling green durring a terrible year. So anything is possible but the past indicates tulsa is a better program than our mac opponents. I would expect another multiple touchdown victory although probably not a blow out.

I know it upsets you getting left behind with the rest of the mwc, but your 8 losses are laughable and my prediction more in line with the AAC trend record wise vs the G4. So my prediction isn't a best case scenario its just a good one. Perfect would be smu with the mild upset vs ark st, ecu with a nice upset of a pretty good byu squad, and temple having a smooth transition to get army back for a loss it shouldnt have had last year.

Which explosive MAC teams?
You mean like last season that Offensive juggernaut, CMU, that was 83rd in scoring. Or was it Ball State in 2008 that had been just blown out by Buffalo the game before or BGSU in 2007 that was blown out by a 6-7 Miami of Ohio team?

Toledo will have its way with Tulsa and Nevada. I think the Rockets go 12-1.
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(08-22-2017 05:40 PM)fanhood Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 05:26 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  Army isn't consistent. They'll split the Temple/Tulane games, and are probably a slight underdog to Navy. Tulane is not a good matchup for Army. They are now well versed in option defending due to practicing vs. a Fritz offense AND they will already have faced an option team in Week 2 against Navy.

Not to mention, Army teams have shown a tendency to fall off after making a bowl.

In fairness, Army was consistent against the AAC last year. They did have a bad loss against Buffalo though.

Also, you cannot equate what Army did in 1997 and 2011 to this year. Today's players were in diapers, and hadn't hit puberty yet based on your reference. Those seasons have nothing to do with this one.

I think it more has to do with how academies cannot simply reload like other schools.

I'm not sold that Army returns as strong as they were a year ago. Army and Navy are weird programs to predict, because results are matchup based. Its why a bad Tulane team fared better vs. Navy than some of the better AAC West teams did.

You just have to watch the games and enjoy.
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If ECU has only decent improvement this year, we should have a shot at beating BYU in Greenville. Per my previous post:

(07-31-2017 12:05 PM)mikeinoki Wrote:  In the last 3 years BYU has not beaten a single FBS team with a winning record on the road. They have only beaten 4 at home. ECU's last game in Provo, BYU broke a 38-38 tie with 21 seconds left. They might not be so fortunate this year.

2016 Toledo, Wyoming (Bowl)
2015 Boise St, Cincy
2014 Houston

Not predicting ECU to have a breakout season, only that BYU hasn't exactly been a world-beater.
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