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(08-22-2017 12:45 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:01 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Dude - you have way too much time on your hands to come up with something like this that will never, ever, ever, ever happen..

Dude - it's a fun exercise. As I stated, I'm not in favor of abolishing divisions, although it's not nearly as implausible as you think. And while Excel makes creating such lists a breeze, I don't believe I have to justify the use of my time to you.

I guess that explains your location - moot point!
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(08-22-2017 01:38 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:45 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 12:01 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  Dude - you have way too much time on your hands to come up with something like this that will never, ever, ever, ever happen..

Dude - it's a fun exercise. As I stated, I'm not in favor of abolishing divisions, although it's not nearly as implausible as you think. And while Excel makes creating such lists a breeze, I don't believe I have to justify the use of my time to you.

I guess that explains your location - moot point!

True, since I already did it. This sort of stuff is what I do as a hobby.
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Sorry nothing personal - these things you come up with are a fantasy and actually make a lot of sense most of the time. The fact that these ideas make sense, however, also mean that there is no chance it will ever happen in reality! Common sense and college athletics rarely cross paths.....
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RE: Divisionless Football Conferences?
So there is already at least one large conference that lacks divisions and uses protected matchups for football: the Big Sky Conference. There will be 14 football schools in the Big Sky in the 2018 and 2019 seasons. Each team has 2 protected rivals, as shown here.

Right now they're using an 8-game conference schedule, but they may be moving to 9 games in 2020. That year North Dakota football departs for the MVFC, leaving 13 football schools once again. Presumably, if the conference sticks with 2 protected matchups, MSU and UNC (UND's partners) will just play each other.

Since Idaho is rejoining as a football school this year, EWU is losing its protected matchup with UM. This could be reversed in 2020 by increasing the number of protected matchups. This also would allow Idaho to play ISU every year. Having 3 protected matchups in a 13-team conference means that one team is perpetually going to end up with 2 or 4 protected matchups, so perhaps 4 matchups across the board would be better.

Here's my proposal for the protected matchups for 2020 on:

Cal Poly: Sac State, UC Davis + NAU, SUU
EWU: Idaho, PSU + Montana, Sac State
Idaho: EWU, Montana + ISU, MSU
ISU: PSU, Weber + Idaho, Montana
Montana: Idaho, MSU + EWU, ISU
MSU: Montana + Idaho, UNC, Weber (- UND)
NAU: SUU, UNC + Cal Poly, UC Davis
PSU: EWU, ISU + Sac State, UC Davis
Sac State: Cal Poly, UC Davis + EWU, PSU
SUU: NAU, Weber + Cal Poly, UNC
UC Davis: Cal Poly, Sac State + NAU, PSU
UNC: NAU + MSU, SUU, Weber (- UND)
Weber: ISU, SUU + MSU, UNC

With an 8-game schedule, each team can play half the 8 non-protected opponents every year. A 9-game schedule is doable; it just makes these pairings more frequent. Note that a 9-game conference schedule with 13 teams means one team will end up with 8 or 10 conference games. The team affected by this can be rotated annually.
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(08-19-2017 12:15 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 10:46 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  A complete list going beyond 3 would be:

Pitt
SU
ND
WVU
VT

UMD
RU

If and when any of the bolded schools join the Big Ten, then they can be placed on Penn State's conference schedule. 03-wink

I doubt most of those schools will ever join the B1G, and I doubt most want to.

I think that the days of bloated conferences are numbered. It doesn't make sense for schools like PSU and Minn to be in the same conference. They have next to nothing in common.

(**I chose Minn because PSU's 1st B1G fb game was against Minn.**)

I think quite the opposite is true: conferences will get larger and will have divisions or pods built to preserve rivalries.

There's simply too much money to be made by consolidating control of media rights into the stronger conferences.
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(01-30-2018 07:44 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 12:15 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 11:11 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 10:46 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  A complete list going beyond 3 would be:

Pitt
SU
ND
WVU
VT

UMD
RU

If and when any of the bolded schools join the Big Ten, then they can be placed on Penn State's conference schedule. 03-wink

I doubt most of those schools will ever join the B1G, and I doubt most want to.

I think that the days of bloated conferences are numbered. It doesn't make sense for schools like PSU and Minn to be in the same conference. They have next to nothing in common.

(**I chose Minn because PSU's 1st B1G fb game was against Minn.**)

I think quite the opposite is true: conferences will get larger and will have divisions or pods built to preserve rivalries.

There's simply too much money to be made by consolidating control of media rights into the stronger conferences.

The networks are paying more money then they ever have for a product that isn't any better than it was 10 years ago.

Something's not right here. ESPN's own narrative is costing them billions of dollars.
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The model will continue to change and how it will change will surprise you.

The biggest schools can take care of themselves monetizing third tier rights. Texas did this effectively. If TV rights are in jeopardy you might see a Texas style bargain in other conferences.

Membership in a P5 in of itself may mean less and less when a handful of P5's will be making 100 million per year while the others 15 mil in TV.
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(08-18-2017 02:03 PM)CarlSmithCenter Wrote:  Think this would probably work better. Florida and LSU do not want to play each other each year, and neither Arkansas nor A&M have any geographic or real historic reason to play South Carolina each year.

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Alabama: Auburn, LSU, Tennessee
Arkansas: Mississippi State, Texas A&M, Missouri
Auburn: Alabama, Georgia, Florida
Florida: Georgia, South Carolina, Auburn
Georgia: Florida, Auburn, South Carolina
Kentucky: South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
LSU: Ole Miss, Alabama, Texas A&M
Mississippi State: Arkansas, Missouri, Ole Miss
Missouri: Texas A&M, Mississippi State, Arkansas
Ole Miss: LSU, Vanderbilt, Mississippi State
South Carolina: Kentucky, Florida, Georgia
Tennessee: Vanderbilt, Kentucky, Alabama
Texas A&M: Missouri, Arkansas, LSU
Vanderbilt: Tennessee, Ole Miss, Kentucky

A few LSU fans might shed tears for that rivalry not being as frequent , but I doubt UF would have any problems with it. The problems come in with Tennessee not being a protected rivalry. Florida would probably toss South Carolina in favor of Tennessee. While Kentucky is a major rival for the Vols, I think that the Vols might toss UK in favor of the Gators, a much bigger rivalry IMO. Substitute Mississippi State for Tennessee (Kentucky & Mississippi State do have a very competitive rivalry going, although it does seem odd that those teams are rivals and it’s much more even for both sides). South Carolina gets Mizzou who really isn’t a rival, but Mizzou just needs somebody to fill that last spot & so does South Carolina. Not sure if I would classify the Battle of Columbia to be a rivalry or not, but this would allow it to continue.
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(08-19-2017 10:46 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 05:56 AM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(08-19-2017 05:33 AM)nzmorange Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 08:33 PM)GE and MTS Wrote:  
(08-18-2017 09:38 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  Big Ten
Illinois: Northwestern, Ohio State, Purdue
Indiana: Michigan State, Northwestern, Purdue
Iowa: Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Maryland: Michigan, Penn State, Rutgers
Michigan: Maryland, Michigan State, Ohio State
Michigan State: Indiana, Michigan, Rutgers
Minnesota: Iowa, Nebraska, Wisconsin
Nebraska: Iowa, Minnesota, Wisconsin
Northwestern: Illinois, Indiana, Purdue
Ohio State: Illinois, Michigan, Penn State
Penn State: Pitt, Syracuse, Notre Dame
Purdue: Illinois, Indiana, Northwestern
Rutgers: Maryland, Michigan State, Penn State
Wisconsin: Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska

What do you think of the whole scheme? Any matchups I should change?

As a Penn State fan, I think you've got the right three for them. It sucks to lose annual games with Michigan and Michigan State though. They aren't exactly rivals but we like playing them. Ohio State would be our biggest rival even if it isn't reciprocated. Maryland and Rutgers are both where a ton of alumni go and where we recruit so they are a big priority. Plus there is a lot of history even without a rivalry there.

I fixed PSU.

I would substitute West Virginia in for Notre Dame based on history but Notre Dame would provide the bigger name and match up.

A complete list going beyond 3 would be:

Pitt
SU
ND
WVU
VT
UMD
RU

Virginia Tech??? I'd put Miami or Temple on there before them. Even the old school Alabama series.
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My 2¢:

Tennessee should probably have UF over UK for football. Tough call, though.

Also, Arkansas: LSU, A&M, and Mizzou.

Alabama: Tennessee, Auburn, and either Ole Miss or Mississippi St.

This exercise shows the absurdity of some additions like Missouri. "But, but, they add a new market!" The problem should be figuring out who teams should play because of too many rivals, not "who can we schlep off on Missouri?"
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I needed a cup of coffee before taking a stab at the ACC. I have made a pretty solid matrix with four permanent rivals, but I'll try one with three.

UNC- Duke, NCSU, UVA
Duke- UNC, Wake, GT
NCSU- UNC, Wake, Clemson
UVA- UNC, VT, Louis
Wake- Duke, NCSU, VT
GT- Duke, Clemson, FSU
Clemson- NCSU, GT, FSU
VT- UVA, Wake, BC
FSU- Miami, Clemson, GT
Miami- FSU, BC, Pitt
BC- Syracuse, Miami, VT
Syracuse- BC, Pitt, Louis
Pitt- Syracuse, Louis, Miami
Louis- Pitt, Syracuse, UVA

Match-ups I wanted to make happen:
UNC-Wake, Duke-NCSU, Clemson-Wake*, GT-Wake, VT-NCSU*, VT-Clemson

I had Miami-VT, but replaced it with Miami-Pitt for rivalry week reasons. Unless Pitt works something out with WVU (I don't see PSU happening) Miami will continue to be their opponent Thanksgiving weekend.

On the bright side for teams that don't have a yearly FLA opponent: the cycle still allows an away game in the Sunshine State every other year like it is now, with more variety. Games like UNC-FSU (one of your humble author's personal favorites), Miami-Syracuse, VT-FSU, Louisville-Miami will happen much more often.



*VT can easily be switched to play NCSU and Clemson with Wake if that's so desired by those parties.
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I've thought for some time that if the conference model economic system remains viable in the post-carriage fee world that larger conferences make better sense.

SEC functioned for a time with 13 and no divisions when the cap on regular season games was 12. The Southern at one point had 23 schools.

Large conferences can function and I think there is some merit to a system where the top two rated teams square off in a championship game and schools play a group of protected rivals and rotate around the rest of the bunch.

There limits on practical conference size at this point are artificial constraints. The auto bid system of the NCAA post-season events and the CFP where the revenue distribution model both G5 and P5 acts as a deterrent to larger sizes.

We functioned for quite a long time with the NCAA being little more than a rulemaking (playing rules, eligibility rules, competition governors, post-season regulation and administration) body and not an economic entity bundling content to generate and pass through revenue. There is no absolute mandate that post-season must be conducted as it is nor is there a final mandate that the NCAA needs to generate any revenue outside of dues collected from members. That role can change.

Likewise conferences used to regulate the members more. It was conferences not the NCAA that set scholarship limits until less than 50 years ago. The conference as economic middleman bundling and selling assets is even newer and does not have to continue if the membership no longer desires to hand that role to the conference.
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(01-31-2018 11:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  I needed a cup of coffee before taking a stab at the ACC. I have made a pretty solid matrix with four permanent rivals, but I'll try one with three.

UNC- Duke, NCSU, UVA
Duke- UNC, Wake, GT
NCSU- UNC, Wake, Clemson
UVA- UNC, VT, Louis
Wake- Duke, NCSU, VT
GT- Duke, Clemson, FSU
Clemson- NCSU, GT, FSU
VT- UVA, Wake, BC
FSU- Miami, Clemson, GT
Miami- FSU, BC, Pitt
BC- Syracuse, Miami, VT
Syracuse- BC, Pitt, Louis
Pitt- Syracuse, Louis, Miami
Louis- Pitt, Syracuse, UVA

Match-ups I wanted to make happen:
UNC-Wake, Duke-NCSU, Clemson-Wake*, GT-Wake, VT-NCSU*, VT-Clemson

I had Miami-VT, but replaced it with Miami-Pitt for rivalry week reasons. Unless Pitt works something out with WVU (I don't see PSU happening) Miami will continue to be their opponent Thanksgiving weekend.

On the bright side for teams that don't have a yearly FLA opponent: the cycle still allows an away game in the Sunshine State every other year like it is now, with more variety. Games like UNC-FSU (one of your humble author's personal favorites), Miami-Syracuse, VT-FSU, Louisville-Miami will happen much more often.



*VT can easily be switched to play NCSU and Clemson with Wake if that's so desired by those parties.

While GT is somewhat a rival or Duke, I would suggest that UVA is more so. Do this:
Duke - UNC, UVA, Wake
UNC - Duke, UVA, NC State
UVA - Duke, UNC, Va Tech

Here's the entire ACC w/ 3 rivals per team:

TEAM Rival #1 #2 #3
Boston College: Syracuse Wake Fst Miami
Clemson: Ga Tech Florida St NC State
Duke: Virginia UNC Wake Fst
Florida St: Miami Clemson Ga Tech
Ga Tech: Florida St Miami Clemson
Louisville: Pittsburgh Va Tech Syracuse
Miami: Florida St Ga Tech Boston Col
N Carolina: Virginia Duke NC State
NC State: UNC Wake Fst Clemson
Pittsburgh: Syracuse Va Tech Louisville
Syracuse: Boston Col Pittsburgh Louisville
Va Tech: Virginia Pittsburgh Louisville
Virginia: Va Tech UNC Duke
Wake Forest: Duke NC State Boston Col

This would save a TON of money on travel, and it would improve home attendance because fans could actually afford to travel to away games.

see also: http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2013/1...sions.html
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(01-31-2018 11:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  I needed a cup of coffee before taking a stab at the ACC. I have made a pretty solid matrix with four permanent rivals, but I'll try one with three.

UNC- Duke, NCSU, UVA
Duke- UNC, Wake, GT
NCSU- UNC, Wake, Clemson
UVA- UNC, VT, Louis
Wake- Duke, NCSU, VT
GT- Duke, Clemson, FSU
Clemson- NCSU, GT, FSU
VT- UVA, Wake, BC
FSU- Miami, Clemson, GT
Miami- FSU, BC, Pitt
BC- Syracuse, Miami, VT
Syracuse- BC, Pitt, Louis
Pitt- Syracuse, Louis, Miami
Louis- Pitt, Syracuse, UVA

Match-ups I wanted to make happen:
UNC-Wake, Duke-NCSU, Clemson-Wake*, GT-Wake, VT-NCSU*, VT-Clemson

I had Miami-VT, but replaced it with Miami-Pitt for rivalry week reasons. Unless Pitt works something out with WVU (I don't see PSU happening) Miami will continue to be their opponent Thanksgiving weekend.

On the bright side for teams that don't have a yearly FLA opponent: the cycle still allows an away game in the Sunshine State every other year like it is now, with more variety. Games like UNC-FSU (one of your humble author's personal favorites), Miami-Syracuse, VT-FSU, Louisville-Miami will happen much more often.



*VT can easily be switched to play NCSU and Clemson with Wake if that's so desired by those parties.

While GT is somewhat a rival or Duke, I would suggest that UVA is more so. Do this:
Duke - UNC, UVA, Wake
UNC - Duke, UVA, NC State
UVA - Duke, UNC, Va Tech

Here's the entire ACC w/ 3 rivals per team:

TEAM Rival #1 #2 #3
Boston College: Syracuse Wake Fst Miami
Clemson: Ga Tech Florida St NC State
Duke: Virginia UNC Wake Fst
Florida St: Miami Clemson Ga Tech
Ga Tech: Florida St Miami Clemson
Louisville: Pittsburgh Va Tech Syracuse
Miami: Florida St Ga Tech Boston Col
N Carolina: Virginia Duke NC State
NC State: UNC Wake Fst Clemson
Pittsburgh: Syracuse Va Tech Louisville
Syracuse: Boston Col Pittsburgh Louisville
Va Tech: Virginia Pittsburgh Louisville
Virginia: Va Tech UNC Duke
Wake Forest: Duke NC State Boston Col

This would save a TON of money on travel, and it would improve attendance because fans could actually afford to travel to away games.

see also: http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2013/1...sions.html
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(01-31-2018 01:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(01-31-2018 11:39 AM)esayem Wrote:  I needed a cup of coffee before taking a stab at the ACC. I have made a pretty solid matrix with four permanent rivals, but I'll try one with three.

UNC- Duke, NCSU, UVA
Duke- UNC, Wake, GT
NCSU- UNC, Wake, Clemson
UVA- UNC, VT, Louis
Wake- Duke, NCSU, VT
GT- Duke, Clemson, FSU
Clemson- NCSU, GT, FSU
VT- UVA, Wake, BC
FSU- Miami, Clemson, GT
Miami- FSU, BC, Pitt
BC- Syracuse, Miami, VT
Syracuse- BC, Pitt, Louis
Pitt- Syracuse, Louis, Miami
Louis- Pitt, Syracuse, UVA

Match-ups I wanted to make happen:
UNC-Wake, Duke-NCSU, Clemson-Wake*, GT-Wake, VT-NCSU*, VT-Clemson

I had Miami-VT, but replaced it with Miami-Pitt for rivalry week reasons. Unless Pitt works something out with WVU (I don't see PSU happening) Miami will continue to be their opponent Thanksgiving weekend.

On the bright side for teams that don't have a yearly FLA opponent: the cycle still allows an away game in the Sunshine State every other year like it is now, with more variety. Games like UNC-FSU (one of your humble author's personal favorites), Miami-Syracuse, VT-FSU, Louisville-Miami will happen much more often.



*VT can easily be switched to play NCSU and Clemson with Wake if that's so desired by those parties.

While GT is somewhat a rival or Duke, I would suggest that UVA is more so. Do this:
Duke - UNC, UVA, Wake
UNC - Duke, UVA, NC State
UVA - Duke, UNC, Va Tech

Here's the entire ACC w/ 3 rivals per team:

TEAM Rival #1 #2 #3
Boston College: Syracuse Wake Fst Miami
Clemson: Ga Tech Florida St NC State
Duke: Virginia UNC Wake Fst
Florida St: Miami Clemson Ga Tech
Ga Tech: Florida St Miami Clemson
Louisville: Pittsburgh Va Tech Syracuse
Miami: Florida St Ga Tech Boston Col
N Carolina: Virginia Duke NC State
NC State: UNC Wake Fst Clemson
Pittsburgh: Syracuse Va Tech Louisville
Syracuse: Boston Col Pittsburgh Louisville
Va Tech: Virginia Pittsburgh Louisville
Virginia: Va Tech UNC Duke
Wake Forest: Duke NC State Boston Col

This would save a TON of money on travel, and it would improve attendance because fans could actually afford to travel to away games.

see also: http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2013/1...sions.html

No love for VT-Wake Forest? Isn't that your closest away game?
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(01-31-2018 01:15 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  see also: http://accfootballrx.blogspot.com/2013/1...sions.html

I like the matrix they set up. I modified the one in the OP to match it. It wasn't too much different. Here's who I had to swap:

Duke: Virginia for Georgia Tech
Georgia Tech: Miami-FL for Duke
Louisville: Virginia Tech for Virginia
Miami-FL: Georgia Tech for Virginia Tech
Virginia: Duke for Louisville
Virginia Tech: Louisville for Miami-FL
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I've long supported this idea for larger conferences.

I would go with a 9 game conference schedule that consisted of 4 permanent games and 5 rotating games.

That way in the average 4 year career you as a student r player would get to see everyone in your conference at your place and have the chance to road trip to everyone else's place at least once.

We don't lose traditional games like Florida vs Tennessee but get to see games like Florida vs Texas A&M more often
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FYI: In the OP, I added two extra protected opponents for each team in the ACC, Big Ten, and SEC in case the conferences were to go 5 protected matchups and a 9-game conference schedule. I feel pretty good about the extra pairings for the ACC and SEC, but the Big Ten seems a little messy to me. Suggestions are appreciated.
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(01-31-2018 06:44 PM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  FYI: In the OP, I added two extra protected opponents for each team in the ACC, Big Ten, and SEC in case the conferences were to go 5 protected matchups and a 9-game conference schedule. I feel pretty good about the extra pairings for the ACC and SEC, but the Big Ten seems a little messy to me. Suggestions are appreciated.

Update: I edited the OP again so that in each column, any particular team was only listed once. More substantially, I switched some matchups around to (hopefully) improve competitive balance. There are still some weird random matchups that resulted from an insufficient number of traditional rivalries. Let me know whatcha think.
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On the off chance someone is actually interested in this, I added my own scheme for a 15-team ACC in the OP.
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