(08-18-2017 11:56 AM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 07:41 AM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 09:33 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  Not that I disagree with Matthew Kenerly, the AAC is not a P6, but I think he needs to put the MWC conference in that same light.

He talks up San Diego State but they had their own struggles last year....got the **** beat out of them by South Alabama and their top 25 finish was a gift after losing 2 of the last 3. And when you lose 31-63 at home in game 11 to a team that was 7-6 (Colorado State) that team shouldn't even be in the picture for a top 25 ranking I think they got a the gift by playing and beating Houston. San Diego State also played the 114th schedule. The only G5 conference champ with a worse schedule was Ark St.

If we are being honest there's not been a lot of difference over the last 3 years between most of the G5 at the end of the year...

2016 AAC, MAC, MWC each had 1 team to finish in the top 25...S. Fla 19th, San Diego State 25th, W. Mich 15th (Western was like 27th or 28th)

2015 the AAC & CUSA were the only G5 conferences to have schools finish top 25, Houston 8th, Navy 18, Western 24th

2014 MWC, AAC & CUSA each had 1 school to finish top 25...Boise State 16th, Memphis 25th, Marshall 23rd

Not a lot of difference in the top 4 teams in either conference by the end of the year. CUSA just hasn't had a team to open strong and get the hype. Even Marshall's 11-0 start was knocked because they played the worse schedule in FBS

Houston had no coaching staff and it showed. They went up 10-0 and made zero adjustments. SDSU played in the weaker half of the MWC. No Air Force, no New Mexico, no Boise. The best team they played, Wyoming, they lost to earlier in the year. They were a fraud.

WKU had no coaching staff but yet still donkey kicked Memphis last year, WKU has won the last 4 games against the AAC ..... I guess we are P5

:

WKU don't get mad that we not only don't want your crappy school and small stadium. You also hire coaches we fire.

(08-18-2017 01:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  WKU don't get mad that we not only don't want your crappy school and small stadium. You also hire coaches we fire.

I see why you are -27 rep now, you are a complete and total douche. I never stated or even acted like wku wanted to be part of the AAC ( thats all you ) fact is we only continue to whip that AAC a$$. The fact that you thought it would hurt my feelings because you dont want my school in your conference just makes me laugh and feel sorry for you. Putting a sticker on a helmet and calling your sell a big boy is only making the AAC look like the laughing stock of the football world, LOOK AT US! WE HAVE STICKERS!!! But still continue to lay on your back like a 2 dollar whore come bowl season. Tell your AD to schedule WKU in football or basketball ..... until then .... shut the f up! Or prove that you can beat us

(08-17-2017 06:51 PM)AndreWhere Wrote:  The AAC is head and shoulders above the rest of the G5, though. It's hard to refute that.

Based on what?

(08-17-2017 08:18 PM)Niner National Wrote:  In basketball, they're undoubtedly a power conference, especially with Wichita now in the conference.

The mid-major term came from college hoops and there wouldn't even be a debate today except the BCS era turned that term into a segregational degrading football term. The America has a great basketball conf but football wise they are no better than any other conference and have no more access than any other conf. To make that claim is assinine.

(08-18-2017 04:58 AM)grapes Wrote:  The American distinguishes itself in many aspects from the other 4 Conferences.

Media coverage is the most important difference. Our schools are being broadcasted like never before and because of this, growing like never before. The American has a mix of major brands and up and coming ones that are all growing tremendously. Brands so strong a P5 was interested in almost every school in the conference. The attendance/fan support is another big difference. Back in the days when the Tigers played in CUSA I felt like I was watching high school football 85% of the time.. but now It's completely different all the coverage feels like we're in a hmmmmm.... P5

.....

Even though the American is young, it has been viewed as superior from the start in 2013 from the other G4's. As our schools and fan bases continue to compete and accustomed it will only become stronger. We have a lot left to prove and gladly take the challenge. With that being said branding ourself as better only lights the flame even brighter to prove it for all the critics. It will make every non conference game more critical just because we are being watched and judged by many. With all the hype this P6 branding has done it will result in more competitive exciting games.

All of this is opinionated nonsense. It sounds like a Donald Trump rally. It's the same as your P6 stickers. Pointless.

Good article. The record vs P5 bowl teams is eye opening as well as the bowl records which have been beaten to death. I agree they are the best of the G5 right now, but I don't think they are head and shoulders above the Mt West. Right now we can't challenge them at the top of the G5 pile and that needs to be the focus. FIU and FAU landing high profile coaches. WKU, MTSU, and hopefully Tech having some consistent success, USM and Marshall getting back on track, and UTSA and ODU emerging as up and comers will go a long way towards putting us in the conversation. Somebody needs to take the next step and get an access bowl though. We also need our conference champ to finish in the top 25 every year consistently as well (and our conference favorite to appear in the preseason poll). It all hinges on OOC and Bowls.

I don't debate the AAC is king of the G5, but the gap between the AAC and the lowest P5 conference is a chasm. The AAC is still basically the tallest midget

Looks like Aresco's plan is starting to rub off on the media.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...n2PNwvUVM0

(08-18-2017 05:09 PM)B easy Wrote:  Looks like Aresco's plan is starting to rub off on the media.

https://www.cbssports.com/college-footba...n2PNwvUVM0

You won't say that come TV contract time..... but but we called ourselves P6, why no P6 TV contract?

(08-18-2017 03:11 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 01:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  WKU don't get mad that we not only don't want your crappy school and small stadium. You also hire coaches we fire.

I see why you are -27 rep now, you are a complete and total douche. I never stated or even acted like wku wanted to be part of the AAC ( thats all you ) fact is we only continue to whip that AAC a$$. The fact that you thought it would hurt my feelings because you dont want my school in your conference just makes me laugh and feel sorry for you. Putting a sticker on a helmet and calling your sell a big boy is only making the AAC look like the laughing stock of the football world, LOOK AT US! WE HAVE STICKERS!!! But still continue to lay on your back like a 2 dollar whore come bowl season. Tell your AD to schedule WKU in football or basketball ..... until then .... shut the f up! Or prove that you can beat us

We don't go to high school stadiums. We'll make you play us in Nashville.

Like I said, you guys hire the coaches that couldn't cut it in Houston. Funny how WKU has all these so called accomplishments and nothing to show for it. Most people have never heard of WKU but hey, at least your mascot is recognizable.

(08-18-2017 04:16 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:58 AM)grapes Wrote:  The American distinguishes itself in many aspects from the other 4 Conferences.

Media coverage is the most important difference. Our schools are being broadcasted like never before and because of this, growing like never before. The American has a mix of major brands and up and coming ones that are all growing tremendously. Brands so strong a P5 was interested in almost every school in the conference. The attendance/fan support is another big difference. Back in the days when the Tigers played in CUSA I felt like I was watching high school football 85% of the time.. but now It's completely different all the coverage feels like we're in a hmmmmm.... P5

.....

Even though the American is young, it has been viewed as superior from the start in 2013 from the other G4's. As our schools and fan bases continue to compete and accustomed it will only become stronger. We have a lot left to prove and gladly take the challenge. With that being said branding ourself as better only lights the flame even brighter to prove it for all the critics. It will make every non conference game more critical just because we are being watched and judged by many. With all the hype this P6 branding has done it will result in more competitive exciting games.

All of this is opinionated nonsense. It sounds like a Donald Trump rally. It's the same as your P6 stickers. Pointless.

I understand how this can be a touchy subject and spark emotions especially from are G4 fan but the points I made a very valid.
At the end of the day the P6 branding will only help the movement and idea of our conference.
Understandably something that would make a G4 fan a little nauseous. Ready for the season to start!

(08-18-2017 08:11 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:16 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:58 AM)grapes Wrote:  The American distinguishes itself in many aspects from the other 4 Conferences.

Media coverage is the most important difference. Our schools are being broadcasted like never before and because of this, growing like never before. The American has a mix of major brands and up and coming ones that are all growing tremendously. Brands so strong a P5 was interested in almost every school in the conference. The attendance/fan support is another big difference. Back in the days when the Tigers played in CUSA I felt like I was watching high school football 85% of the time.. but now It's completely different all the coverage feels like we're in a hmmmmm.... P5

.....

Even though the American is young, it has been viewed as superior from the start in 2013 from the other G4's. As our schools and fan bases continue to compete and accustomed it will only become stronger. We have a lot left to prove and gladly take the challenge. With that being said branding ourself as better only lights the flame even brighter to prove it for all the critics. It will make every non conference game more critical just because we are being watched and judged by many. With all the hype this P6 branding has done it will result in more competitive exciting games.

All of this is opinionated nonsense. It sounds like a Donald Trump rally. It's the same as your P6 stickers. Pointless.

I understand how this can be a touchy subject and spark emotions especially from are G4 fan but the points I made a very valid.
At the end of the day the P6 branding will only help the movement and idea of our conference.
Understandably something that would make a G4 fan a little nauseous. Ready for the season to start!

At the end of the day winning and winning big is the only thing that is going to separate any of us. Even then the lowest of the lowest P5 schools will still be considered higher.

That's just a team....no matter what conference that winner comes from. They will never be P5. Not in the eyes of TV. Not in the eyes of bowl games. Not in the eyes of those giving out the dollars.

60% of Houston's money comes from the school, students, other than earned

44% of Memphis

50% of Cincinnati

66% of UCF

54% OF South Florida

49% OF Connecticut

Each of those are bare minimal double the highest in the ACC and 3 to 4 times higher than the Big 12 & 10 & SEC

So while the AAC is doing better than a lot of the other G5 conferences....

light years away from the lowest P5

(08-18-2017 06:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 03:11 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 01:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  WKU don't get mad that we not only don't want your crappy school and small stadium. You also hire coaches we fire.

I see why you are -27 rep now, you are a complete and total douche. I never stated or even acted like wku wanted to be part of the AAC ( thats all you ) fact is we only continue to whip that AAC a$$. The fact that you thought it would hurt my feelings because you dont want my school in your conference just makes me laugh and feel sorry for you. Putting a sticker on a helmet and calling your sell a big boy is only making the AAC look like the laughing stock of the football world, LOOK AT US! WE HAVE STICKERS!!! But still continue to lay on your back like a 2 dollar whore come bowl season. Tell your AD to schedule WKU in football or basketball ..... until then .... shut the f up! Or prove that you can beat us

We don't go to high school stadiums. We'll make you play us in Nashville.

Like I said, you guys hire the coaches that couldn't cut it in Houston. Funny how WKU has all these so called accomplishments and nothing to show for it. Most people have never heard of WKU but hey, at least your mascot is recognizable.

Didn't Houston have a great offense that led the nation while Levine was there, if so he sounds like a great hire for the offense. Nothing to show for it? Not even sure where your going with that...... go play somewhere else little girl.

(08-18-2017 08:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:11 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:16 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:58 AM)grapes Wrote:  The American distinguishes itself in many aspects from the other 4 Conferences.

Media coverage is the most important difference. Our schools are being broadcasted like never before and because of this, growing like never before. The American has a mix of major brands and up and coming ones that are all growing tremendously. Brands so strong a P5 was interested in almost every school in the conference. The attendance/fan support is another big difference. Back in the days when the Tigers played in CUSA I felt like I was watching high school football 85% of the time.. but now It's completely different all the coverage feels like we're in a hmmmmm.... P5

.....

Even though the American is young, it has been viewed as superior from the start in 2013 from the other G4's. As our schools and fan bases continue to compete and accustomed it will only become stronger. We have a lot left to prove and gladly take the challenge. With that being said branding ourself as better only lights the flame even brighter to prove it for all the critics. It will make every non conference game more critical just because we are being watched and judged by many. With all the hype this P6 branding has done it will result in more competitive exciting games.

All of this is opinionated nonsense. It sounds like a Donald Trump rally. It's the same as your P6 stickers. Pointless.

I understand how this can be a touchy subject and spark emotions especially from are G4 fan but the points I made a very valid.
At the end of the day the P6 branding will only help the movement and idea of our conference.
Understandably something that would make a G4 fan a little nauseous. Ready for the season to start!

At the end of the day winning and winning big is the only thing that is going to separate any of us. Even then the lowest of the lowest P5 schools will still be considered higher.

That's just a team....no matter what conference that winner comes from. They will never be P5. Not in the eyes of TV. Not in the eyes of bowl games. Not in the eyes of those giving out the dollars.

60% of Houston's money comes from the school, students, other than earned

44% of Memphis

50% of Cincinnati

66% of UCF

54% OF South Florida

49% OF Connecticut

Each of those are bare minimal double the highest in the ACC and 3 to 4 times higher than the Big 12 & 10 & SEC

So while the AAC is doing better than a lot of the other G5 conferences....

light years away from the lowest P5

Haven't you had enough, moron... troll back over to fantasy land where the AAC actually matters in the grand scheme of things.. your whole conference is a pile of narcissists in full blown denial

Quote:WKU had no coaching staff but yet still donkey kicked Memphis last year, WKU has won the last 4 games against the AAC ..... I guess we are P5

They probably had more of a coaching staff than UH. You could tell Houston made no adjustments the entire game.

(08-18-2017 10:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:11 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:16 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:58 AM)grapes Wrote:  The American distinguishes itself in many aspects from the other 4 Conferences.

Media coverage is the most important difference. Our schools are being broadcasted like never before and because of this, growing like never before. The American has a mix of major brands and up and coming ones that are all growing tremendously. Brands so strong a P5 was interested in almost every school in the conference. The attendance/fan support is another big difference. Back in the days when the Tigers played in CUSA I felt like I was watching high school football 85% of the time.. but now It's completely different all the coverage feels like we're in a hmmmmm.... P5

.....

Even though the American is young, it has been viewed as superior from the start in 2013 from the other G4's. As our schools and fan bases continue to compete and accustomed it will only become stronger. We have a lot left to prove and gladly take the challenge. With that being said branding ourself as better only lights the flame even brighter to prove it for all the critics. It will make every non conference game more critical just because we are being watched and judged by many. With all the hype this P6 branding has done it will result in more competitive exciting games.

All of this is opinionated nonsense. It sounds like a Donald Trump rally. It's the same as your P6 stickers. Pointless.

I understand how this can be a touchy subject and spark emotions especially from are G4 fan but the points I made a very valid.
At the end of the day the P6 branding will only help the movement and idea of our conference.
Understandably something that would make a G4 fan a little nauseous. Ready for the season to start!

At the end of the day winning and winning big is the only thing that is going to separate any of us. Even then the lowest of the lowest P5 schools will still be considered higher.

That's just a team....no matter what conference that winner comes from. They will never be P5. Not in the eyes of TV. Not in the eyes of bowl games. Not in the eyes of those giving out the dollars.

60% of Houston's money comes from the school, students, other than earned

44% of Memphis

50% of Cincinnati

66% of UCF

54% OF South Florida

49% OF Connecticut

Each of those are bare minimal double the highest in the ACC and 3 to 4 times higher than the Big 12 & 10 & SEC

So while the AAC is doing better than a lot of the other G5 conferences....

light years away from the lowest P5

Haven't you had enough, moron... troll back over to fantasy land where the AAC actually matters in the grand scheme of things.. your whole conference is a pile of narcissists in full blown denial

I love it

(08-19-2017 02:10 AM)grapes Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 10:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:11 PM)grapes Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 04:16 PM)MU ATO Wrote:   All of this is opinionated nonsense. It sounds like a Donald Trump rally. It's the same as your P6 stickers. Pointless.

I understand how this can be a touchy subject and spark emotions especially from are G4 fan but the points I made a very valid.
At the end of the day the P6 branding will only help the movement and idea of our conference.
Understandably something that would make a G4 fan a little nauseous. Ready for the season to start!

At the end of the day winning and winning big is the only thing that is going to separate any of us. Even then the lowest of the lowest P5 schools will still be considered higher.

That's just a team....no matter what conference that winner comes from. They will never be P5. Not in the eyes of TV. Not in the eyes of bowl games. Not in the eyes of those giving out the dollars.

60% of Houston's money comes from the school, students, other than earned

44% of Memphis

50% of Cincinnati

66% of UCF

54% OF South Florida

49% OF Connecticut

Each of those are bare minimal double the highest in the ACC and 3 to 4 times higher than the Big 12 & 10 & SEC

So while the AAC is doing better than a lot of the other G5 conferences....

light years away from the lowest P5

Haven't you had enough, moron... troll back over to fantasy land where the AAC actually matters in the grand scheme of things.. your whole conference is a pile of narcissists in full blown denial

I love it

Love what? Making an ass out of yourself with nonsense? Awesome.

(08-19-2017 02:16 AM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(08-19-2017 02:10 AM)grapes Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 10:42 PM)THUNDERGround Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:35 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 08:11 PM)grapes Wrote:  I understand how this can be a touchy subject and spark emotions especially from are G4 fan but the points I made a very valid.
At the end of the day the P6 branding will only help the movement and idea of our conference.
Understandably something that would make a G4 fan a little nauseous. Ready for the season to start!

At the end of the day winning and winning big is the only thing that is going to separate any of us. Even then the lowest of the lowest P5 schools will still be considered higher.

That's just a team....no matter what conference that winner comes from. They will never be P5. Not in the eyes of TV. Not in the eyes of bowl games. Not in the eyes of those giving out the dollars.

60% of Houston's money comes from the school, students, other than earned

44% of Memphis

50% of Cincinnati

66% of UCF

54% OF South Florida

49% OF Connecticut

Each of those are bare minimal double the highest in the ACC and 3 to 4 times higher than the Big 12 & 10 & SEC

So while the AAC is doing better than a lot of the other G5 conferences....

light years away from the lowest P5

Haven't you had enough, moron... troll back over to fantasy land where the AAC actually matters in the grand scheme of things.. your whole conference is a pile of narcissists in full blown denial

I love it

Love what? Making an ass out of yourself with nonsense? Awesome.

Nonsense?

(08-18-2017 08:58 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 06:43 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 03:11 PM)wkuhilltopperfan Wrote:  

(08-18-2017 01:48 PM)Red Dragon Coog Wrote:  WKU don't get mad that we not only don't want your crappy school and small stadium. You also hire coaches we fire.

I see why you are -27 rep now, you are a complete and total douche. I never stated or even acted like wku wanted to be part of the AAC ( thats all you ) fact is we only continue to whip that AAC a$$. The fact that you thought it would hurt my feelings because you dont want my school in your conference just makes me laugh and feel sorry for you. Putting a sticker on a helmet and calling your sell a big boy is only making the AAC look like the laughing stock of the football world, LOOK AT US! WE HAVE STICKERS!!! But still continue to lay on your back like a 2 dollar whore come bowl season. Tell your AD to schedule WKU in football or basketball ..... until then .... shut the f up! Or prove that you can beat us

We don't go to high school stadiums. We'll make you play us in Nashville.

Like I said, you guys hire the coaches that couldn't cut it in Houston. Funny how WKU has all these so called accomplishments and nothing to show for it. Most people have never heard of WKU but hey, at least your mascot is recognizable.

Didn't Houston have a great offense that led the nation while Levine was there, if so he sounds like a great hire for the offense. Nothing to show for it? Not even sure where your going with that...... go play somewhere else little girl.

No. In fact, his lack of consistent offense got him fired. His biggest faults were no experience as an OC or DC and a lack of strong network of potential hires. He was a good man and solid recruiter---he just wasn't quite ready yet. As an HC---he wasnt terrible---but he wasnt very good either.

Spending time under Brohm and getting an opportunity to be an OC (assuming he is successful at the job) could easily set him up for another HC opportunity down the line. My personal opinion is he will be much better the second time around. He recruits well----thats more than half the battle.