(08-17-2017 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Any other Constitutional rights you want to give the police the power to take? Vote? Free speech?

The police have the power to make determinations on a lot of things. I've seen it happen.

If they can decide whether or not to shoot you then they can certainly decide whether or not to act on a complaint and take your guns.

(08-17-2017 04:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Any other Constitutional rights you want to give the police the power to take? Vote? Free speech?

The police have the power to make determinations on a lot of things. I've seen it happen.

If they can decide whether or not to shoot you then they can certainly decide whether or not to act on a complaint and take your guns.

Entirely different situations. Shoot/don't shoot deals with the immediate threat to life and/or safety. Seizing someone's guns should require due process, not just someone saying you are a danger.

(08-17-2017 04:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Any other Constitutional rights you want to give the police the power to take? Vote? Free speech?

The police have the power to make determinations on a lot of things. I've seen it happen.

If they can decide whether or not to shoot you then they can certainly decide whether or not to act on a complaint and take your guns.

Entirely different situations. Shoot/don't shoot deals with the immediate threat to life and/or safety. Seizing someone's guns should require due process, not just someone saying you are a danger.

I agree. What level of due process would you require.

(08-17-2017 04:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Any other Constitutional rights you want to give the police the power to take? Vote? Free speech?

The police have the power to make determinations on a lot of things. I've seen it happen.

If they can decide whether or not to shoot you then they can certainly decide whether or not to act on a complaint and take your guns.

Entirely different situations. Shoot/don't shoot deals with the immediate threat to life and/or safety. Seizing someone's guns should require due process, not just someone saying you are a danger.

I agree. What level of due process would you require.

Judicial process with an appeal process. I would like to see it to where if the person filing the claim loses they are responsible for all legal costs you have fighting for your rights to discourage leftist activists from filing frivolous claims.

(08-17-2017 04:32 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:24 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:22 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:15 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(08-17-2017 04:12 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  Any other Constitutional rights you want to give the police the power to take? Vote? Free speech?

The police have the power to make determinations on a lot of things. I've seen it happen.

If they can decide whether or not to shoot you then they can certainly decide whether or not to act on a complaint and take your guns.

Entirely different situations. Shoot/don't shoot deals with the immediate threat to life and/or safety. Seizing someone's guns should require due process, not just someone saying you are a danger.

I agree. What level of due process would you require.

Judicial process with an appeal process. I would like to see it to where if the person filing the claim loses they are responsible for all legal costs you have fighting for your rights to discourage leftist activists from filing frivolous claims.

I wouldn't have a problem with that.