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(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  VT just installed a dual threat quarterback as the starter.

I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.

BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.
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(08-14-2017 09:35 AM)757ODU Wrote:  This year, ODU can compete for a Conference USA Championship. I can only speak for myself in saying that I don't believe BL gets us to that goal. I could be wrong (I hope I am), and I am not going to question this staff. They have pushed all of the right buttons since starting this program.

I don't know.l Maybe it's just me, but it's hard for me to see how you can state that you don't believe LaRussa can get us to a conference championship, and at the same time say you are not going to question this staff (that has LaRussa as the No. 1 QB). It seems to me that by the very nature of your first statement, you are doing exactly that.

It was a guess, man. A guess that he will not be able to lead us there. If you can't figure out the difference between guessing at something and complaining about what the coaching staff does....well, you haven't done much reading on these boards.

If BL is the starter and can't lead us to the CUSA championship, then we likely don't have anyone on the team that can. This isn't like the SB scenario where you have a highly rated recruit that was likely promised the opportunity. They guy was brought in as a walk-on. If he is the starter on day one ahead of a couple of guys that were pretty highly rated, he is the best we have. If he isn't good enough, then that isn't on him as he has already done more than what was expected of him.
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RE: QB discussion
(08-15-2017 07:44 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
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(08-14-2017 09:35 AM)757ODU Wrote:  This year, ODU can compete for a Conference USA Championship. I can only speak for myself in saying that I don't believe BL gets us to that goal. I could be wrong (I hope I am), and I am not going to question this staff. They have pushed all of the right buttons since starting this program.

I don't know.l Maybe it's just me, but it's hard for me to see how you can state that you don't believe LaRussa can get us to a conference championship, and at the same time say you are not going to question this staff (that has LaRussa as the No. 1 QB). It seems to me that by the very nature of your first statement, you are doing exactly that.

It was a guess, man. A guess that he will not be able to lead us there. If you can't figure out the difference between guessing at something and complaining about what the coaching staff does....well, you haven't done much reading on these boards.

If BL is the starter and can't lead us to the CUSA championship, then we likely don't have anyone on the team that can. This isn't like the SB scenario where you have a highly rated recruit that was likely promised the opportunity. They guy was brought in as a walk-on. If he is the starter on day one ahead of a couple of guys that were pretty highly rated, he is the best we have. If he isn't good enough, then that isn't on him as he has already done more than what was expected of him.

Oh I totally agree with that. I was just hoping someone was going to make a big push and grab the starting position with ease. I know Blake and his brother personally, incredible family. I want Blake to be successful...it just wouldn't be my guess.
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Our only shot against VT is for our D to contain their O. We're not likely to score a ton. Just don't turn the ball over and take advantage of every scoring opportunity.

Getting a few turnovers will help as well.
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RE: QB discussion
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.


We need to stop saying both of these things.

A) We don't need a dual threat, we just need the best QB on the roster. Whether that is pro style or dual threat.

B) Many of small football QBs end up not dying while playing football.
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(08-15-2017 09:51 AM)Gilesfan Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.


We need to stop saying both of these things.

A) We don't need a dual threat, we just need the best QB on the roster. Whether that is pro style or dual threat.

B) Many of small football QBs end up not dying while playing football.

This.
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(08-15-2017 07:44 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 10:13 AM)757ODU Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 09:47 AM)ODU AGGIE Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 09:35 AM)757ODU Wrote:  This year, ODU can compete for a Conference USA Championship. I can only speak for myself in saying that I don't believe BL gets us to that goal. I could be wrong (I hope I am), and I am not going to question this staff. They have pushed all of the right buttons since starting this program.

I don't know.l Maybe it's just me, but it's hard for me to see how you can state that you don't believe LaRussa can get us to a conference championship, and at the same time say you are not going to question this staff (that has LaRussa as the No. 1 QB). It seems to me that by the very nature of your first statement, you are doing exactly that.

It was a guess, man. A guess that he will not be able to lead us there. If you can't figure out the difference between guessing at something and complaining about what the coaching staff does....well, you haven't done much reading on these boards.

If BL is the starter and can't lead us to the CUSA championship, then we likely don't have anyone on the team that can. This isn't like the SB scenario where you have a highly rated recruit that was likely promised the opportunity. They guy was brought in as a walk-on. If he is the starter on day one ahead of a couple of guys that were pretty highly rated, he is the best we have. If he isn't good enough, then that isn't on him as he has already done more than what was expected of him.

If he isn't good enough then we need to try the next in line. Practice is practice if he doesn't get it done in games then let's try someone else.
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RE: QB discussion
(08-15-2017 07:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  VT just installed a dual threat quarterback as the starter.

I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.

BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.

[Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
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RE: QB discussion
(08-15-2017 06:57 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  VT just installed a dual threat quarterback as the starter.

I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.

BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.

[Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
Why do you say he has no mobility? He looks mobile in the video clips. Whether you are dual threat or not NO coach is going to want his starting QB to take shots.
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RE: QB discussion
(08-15-2017 06:57 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  VT just installed a dual threat quarterback as the starter.

I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.

BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.

[Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
So you want a running QB, not a dual threat per se (there are maybe 5 in all of NCAA D1).

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(08-15-2017 07:03 PM)84Monarch Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 06:57 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  VT just installed a dual threat quarterback as the starter.

I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.

BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.

[Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
Why do you say he has no mobility? He looks mobile in the video clips. Whether you are dual threat or not NO coach is going to want his starting QB to take shots.

Oh, I didn't know he was already crowned the starter.

I know coaches have to protect their QB's. My point was to deemphasize his success in practice due to this rule. At the same time coaches can see who's more athletic and that answer is Hoy and Arnold. All I want to know is when that play is disrupted, can the QB still turn nothing into something? I have no confidence that LaRusso can do that.
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(08-15-2017 07:08 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 06:57 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  VT just installed a dual threat quarterback as the starter.

I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.

BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.

[Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
So you want a running QB, not a dual threat per se (there are maybe 5 in all of NCAA D1).

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Don't think I said that. A dual threat QB passes and runs. You called TH a dual threat QB which he wasn't. I was comparing TH running versus a true dual threat QB running.
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(08-15-2017 07:16 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:08 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 06:57 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-14-2017 06:45 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  VT just installed a dual threat quarterback as the starter.

I expect ODU to put a dual threat QB in the backfield as well. I don't care if it's Hoy or Arnold.

Putting BL in the backfield would be equivalent to child endangerment.

BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.

[Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
So you want a running QB, not a dual threat per se (there are maybe 5 in all of NCAA D1).

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Don't think I said that. A dual threat QB passes and runs. You called TH a dual threat QB which he wasn't.
He both passed and ran and racked up plenty of 1st downs and TDs doing both so we will just disagree I guess.

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How is it that this guy is being judged so harshly with no game experience to back it up? VT is starting an RS freshman.

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(08-15-2017 07:19 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:16 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:08 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 06:57 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:37 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  BL is a dual threat every bit as much as TH was. Similar styles actually.

[Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
So you want a running QB, not a dual threat per se (there are maybe 5 in all of NCAA D1).

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Don't think I said that. A dual threat QB passes and runs. You called TH a dual threat QB which he wasn't.
He both passed and ran and racked up plenty of 1st downs and TDs doing both so we will just disagree I guess.

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Pro style QB's do run, but seldom are plays designed for them to run. That's the difference.



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(08-15-2017 07:26 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
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(08-15-2017 07:16 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 07:08 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 06:57 PM)Sirloin Burger Wrote:  [Image: nicolas_cage.gif]

TH was elusive but wasn't a threat to run. When he did run he slid to avoid a hit. Dual threat QB's don't do this. They juke and run.

Larusso is doing well in practice where he isn't allowed to get tackled. Let the defense have at him and then see how efficient he is.

I think Larruso is a fine student athlete. However a 5'10, 180 pounder with no mobility has no business starting at this level.
So you want a running QB, not a dual threat per se (there are maybe 5 in all of NCAA D1).

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Don't think I said that. A dual threat QB passes and runs. You called TH a dual threat QB which he wasn't.
He both passed and ran and racked up plenty of 1st downs and TDs doing both so we will just disagree I guess.

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Pro style QB's do run, but seldom are plays designed for them to run. That's the difference.
Ok, I got it. I'm not a fan of designed QB runs. The hits take a toll and eventually impact the passing as well. They are also lucky if they can complete a season and stay out of a cast. Deshawn Watson types that are big enough to take hits and at the same time fast enough to run effectively and at the same time can see the field and make big throws are pretty rare.

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Rakeem Cato at Marshall was listed at 6'0" 181 his senior year, and it is more likely that he was 5'11" and 170-175 or so. He started for four years. I can easily imagine that he was somewhat smaller as a freshman. Small QBs can and have played successfully in this conference. I don't know which QB will be starting against Albany, but we do have four truly competent QBs competing, and whoever starts will have earned the right through good play and taking care of the ball. That's all we can ask, whoever it is.
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Some yall are rough on the kid. If he is named starter he earned it. Its not a SB situation where he was handed the keys, we have four QBs fighting for the job. BL hasn't been named the starter but there is a reason right now he is getting the majority of the snaps with the first teamers. None of us are certain who has heart, talent, discipline, the expertise and understanding of the playbook and most important the trust of the coaches and teammates behind them at this point. If I had to 03-banghead assume 03-banghead who has the trust of the coaches right now it would be BL. We can spend all day on here comparing ranking stars, height, weight, old high school stats and down grading each QBs on their flaws but its not our say who should start. The most capable QB will lead the team in 17 days.

I've been a big supporter of BL because I know he has the heart, discipline and understanding of the playbook. Of course he is undersized and a long shot to fill the large legacy TH left but if the BL wins the job he fought out 2 and 3 star guys and more athletic guys (on paper) to earn it.
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Whoever thinks Larussa has no mobility has not seen him play.
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(08-15-2017 08:20 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  Whoever thinks Larussa has no mobility has not seen him play.
Seriously. He is quick and elusive in the pocket, and has pretty good straight line speed to go along with it.

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