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Interesting that both assistant coaches are alumni. I was kinda hoping Coach Graham would steal James Casey away from UH. (kidding, hopefully obviously)
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(08-13-2017 09:56 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-13-2017 09:11 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
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(08-13-2017 09:01 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  Yes, you are correct. I guess I should have put more thought into my post. However, when I think of most of the "big donors" to Rice University, I don't think of athletics.

Apparently, you're relatively new to the program.

For your clarification:
"Big donors" to Rice athletics tend to be former Rice athletes as evidenced by the names on the buildings/locker rooms/etc....

His statement was ' "big donors" to Rice University' not ' "Big donors" to Rice athletics'. No need to correct (or 'clarify') by misstating what was said.

Try again. Actually, I simply said, "big donors", and did not refer to whether they where Rice athletic donors or donors to the university in general. (See post #40 in this thread.)

Fair enough. The phrase I used was a direct quote of Owl1998 that was embedded in my response.

If one wants to be extremely literal, one could interpret your "big donors" as, say, "big donors to the US Olympic committee", I guess. 03-wink
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(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 11:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 07:18 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 12:16 AM)AggieOwl01 Wrote:  
(08-11-2017 09:27 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  Berkman is out of the picture. Period.

And, no, they did not play together. Berkman was here 1997 - '99, and Janish was here 2002 - '04.

Still hearing Berkman might be a candidate.

You're hearing wrong. And, BTW, there is no position currently available. The coaching staff is set with Coach Graham, Janish and Pope as the two Assistant Coaches and Jordan Kopycinski as the volunteer assistant....and it was The OG who hired Paul and Jordan.

Pretty sure he's referring to whenever the time comes that the OG retires. We all know the staff is set for now. That's what we were saying after they hired Janish and you kept saying we still hadn't filled VH's spot.

1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.
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(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 11:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 07:18 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 12:16 AM)AggieOwl01 Wrote:  Still hearing Berkman might be a candidate.

You're hearing wrong. And, BTW, there is no position currently available. The coaching staff is set with Coach Graham, Janish and Pope as the two Assistant Coaches and Jordan Kopycinski as the volunteer assistant....and it was The OG who hired Paul and Jordan.

Pretty sure he's referring to whenever the time comes that the OG retires. We all know the staff is set for now. That's what we were saying after they hired Janish and you kept saying we still hadn't filled VH's spot.

1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

confused. Wouldn't that have aligned him with Berkman? I'll be honest, I paid very little attention to the issue. Or was the vote on repealing an ordinance?
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Maybe I mis-stated: as I understand it the original bathroom bill requires you to use the public bathroom according to your birth gender. There was a column in the biz section of the Comical Monday (I think) a week ago where a handful of local and national hi profile CEO's were quoted as being opposed to this bill. Tudor was one of them.

There may now be a new bill introduced on the floor of the Tx House, worded so as to repeal this bill.
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(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 11:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 07:18 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 12:16 AM)AggieOwl01 Wrote:  Still hearing Berkman might be a candidate.

You're hearing wrong. And, BTW, there is no position currently available. The coaching staff is set with Coach Graham, Janish and Pope as the two Assistant Coaches and Jordan Kopycinski as the volunteer assistant....and it was The OG who hired Paul and Jordan.

Pretty sure he's referring to whenever the time comes that the OG retires. We all know the staff is set for now. That's what we were saying after they hired Janish and you kept saying we still hadn't filled VH's spot.

1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

I am still wondering what "numerous" means.
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(08-15-2017 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 11:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 07:18 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  You're hearing wrong. And, BTW, there is no position currently available. The coaching staff is set with Coach Graham, Janish and Pope as the two Assistant Coaches and Jordan Kopycinski as the volunteer assistant....and it was The OG who hired Paul and Jordan.

Pretty sure he's referring to whenever the time comes that the OG retires. We all know the staff is set for now. That's what we were saying after they hired Janish and you kept saying we still hadn't filled VH's spot.

1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

I am still wondering what "numerous" means.

More than just a few. I'm not going to get more specific, but it was not just one or two or three donors who had issues with Berkman.
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(08-15-2017 04:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 11:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  Pretty sure he's referring to whenever the time comes that the OG retires. We all know the staff is set for now. That's what we were saying after they hired Janish and you kept saying we still hadn't filled VH's spot.

1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

I am still wondering what "numerous" means.

More than just a few. I'm not going to get more specific, but it was not just one or two or three donors who had issues with Berkman.

More than three, then. I truly did not, and still do not, think we had numerous big donors, period. But numerous and big are relative terms. I may be too strict in my definition.

I too had issues with Berkman, but they had zero to do with politics. I just think that stars usually do not make good coaches.
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RE: Paul Janish New Baseball Assistant
(08-15-2017 04:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 11:37 AM)Owl1998 Wrote:  Pretty sure he's referring to whenever the time comes that the OG retires. We all know the staff is set for now. That's what we were saying after they hired Janish and you kept saying we still hadn't filled VH's spot.

1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

I am still wondering what "numerous" means.

More than just a few. I'm not going to get more specific, but it was not just one or two or three donors who had issues with Berkman.

Walt – With all due respect, I would like to clarify to the readers of the Parliament that your statement regarding Lance Berkman’s lack of support from “major donors” does not include the Reckling Family. And to further clarify, we believe Lance would be a fantastic candidate to be the next head baseball coach at Rice University. Our family (like many others) is one that has been involved with Rice Baseball in some form or fashion for many decades and we will always be proud of the National Championship team and the countless nationally ranked teams under the helm of Coach Graham. Our family is not one to politicize the election of the next head baseball coach and we certainly respect the fact that the decision lies in the hands of David Leebron, Joe Karlgaard and Rice’s Board of Directors, all of which are trusted fiduciaries of the University and its athletic department. I would appreciate if you were more specific with your comments to mitigate the birth of illegitimate rumors and hope we can all respect the process going forward.
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(08-16-2017 11:39 AM)SReckling Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

I am still wondering what "numerous" means.

More than just a few. I'm not going to get more specific, but it was not just one or two or three donors who had issues with Berkman.

Walt – With all due respect, I would like to clarify to the readers of the Parliament that your statement regarding Lance Berkman’s lack of support from “major donors” does not include the Reckling Family. And to further clarify, we believe Lance would be a fantastic candidate to be the next head baseball coach at Rice University. Our family (like many others) is one that has been involved with Rice Baseball in some form or fashion for many decades and we will always be proud of the National Championship team and the countless nationally ranked teams under the helm of Coach Graham. Our family is not one to politicize the election of the next head baseball coach and we certainly respect the fact that the decision lies in the hands of David Leebron, Joe Karlgaard and Rice’s Board of Directors, all of which are trusted fiduciaries of the University and its athletic department. I would appreciate if you were more specific with your comments to mitigate the birth of illegitimate rumors and hope we can all respect the process going forward.

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(08-16-2017 11:39 AM)SReckling Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

I am still wondering what "numerous" means.

More than just a few. I'm not going to get more specific, but it was not just one or two or three donors who had issues with Berkman.

Walt – With all due respect, I would like to clarify to the readers of the Parliament that your statement regarding Lance Berkman’s lack of support from “major donors” does not include the Reckling Family. And to further clarify, we believe Lance would be a fantastic candidate to be the next head baseball coach at Rice University. Our family (like many others) is one that has been involved with Rice Baseball in some form or fashion for many decades and we will always be proud of the National Championship team and the countless nationally ranked teams under the helm of Coach Graham. Our family is not one to politicize the election of the next head baseball coach and we certainly respect the fact that the decision lies in the hands of David Leebron, Joe Karlgaard and Rice’s Board of Directors, all of which are trusted fiduciaries of the University and its athletic department. I would appreciate if you were more specific with your comments to mitigate the birth of illegitimate rumors and hope we can all respect the process going forward.

Mahalo for that very thoughtful post. If Berkman is considered a legit candidatefor a coaching position at Rice, then his views, and ability to express them publicly should be part of the process. To rule him out without that kind of process is just as wrong as throwing Tudor out for supporting a repeal. I don't pretend to know that either position is entirely correctAs a rep of the university, either should be as apolitical as possible, IMHO.
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(08-16-2017 11:39 AM)SReckling Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:38 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 04:33 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  
(08-15-2017 12:44 PM)davidw Wrote:  
(08-12-2017 03:46 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  1. I didn't "kept saying"; rather, I said it once when it was first posted because the rumor I had heard a week earlier had him coming in as a student volunteer. I immediately got the inside scoop and posted it.

2. From what I'm hearing Berkman is out of the picture as a Rice coach-- now and in the future. I understand numerous big donors made their voices heard against Berkman to both Karlgaard and directly to Leebron.

Berkman won't be a candidate as long as Bobby Tudor heads up the BOT. Tudor came out publicly in opposition to the bathroom bill.

I am still wondering what "numerous" means.

More than just a few. I'm not going to get more specific, but it was not just one or two or three donors who had issues with Berkman.

Walt – With all due respect, I would like to clarify to the readers of the Parliament that your statement regarding Lance Berkman’s lack of support from “major donors” does not include the Reckling Family. And to further clarify, we believe Lance would be a fantastic candidate to be the next head baseball coach at Rice University. Our family (like many others) is one that has been involved with Rice Baseball in some form or fashion for many decades and we will always be proud of the National Championship team and the countless nationally ranked teams under the helm of Coach Graham. Our family is not one to politicize the election of the next head baseball coach and we certainly respect the fact that the decision lies in the hands of David Leebron, Joe Karlgaard and Rice’s Board of Directors, all of which are trusted fiduciaries of the University and its athletic department. I would appreciate if you were more specific with your comments to mitigate the birth of illegitimate rumors and hope we can all respect the process going forward.

Stephen-- my sincere apologies for the misunderstanding and the unintended implication that you were one of "big donors" I had heard raised issues with Lance. I was responding to a poster who had stated that he was of the belief that all big donors at Rice were not interested in athletics, and following up on another poster who had countered that statement by referencing the name on the basketball facility. However, given my subsequent post in the thread, I can understand how my response could have implicated you and your family, and given people the wrong impression, and for that, i truly regret the reference. (BTW, here is the exact quote I posted: "Not to mention the names on the baseball park and baseball field. A good number of Rice's biggest donors are avid sports fans, and many were athletes themselves.")

BTW, in another thread in which the Lance situation was discussed prior to the naming of Janish as Van Hook's replacement, I also was in favor of Lance being given an opportunity to prove himself in the Assistant Coach position.
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A little bird told me that Janish starts tomorrow 03-wink
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(08-22-2017 09:44 PM)Scooter Wrote:  A little bird told me that Janish starts tomorrow 03-wink

Great news. I noticed the Os put out a brief press release on his release and his return to his alma mater. It was nice of them to let him go before the season ended 5 weeks from now.
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(08-22-2017 09:44 PM)Scooter Wrote:  A little bird told me that Janish starts tomorrow 03-wink

Great news. I noticed the Os put out a brief press release on his release and his return to his alma mater. It was nice of them to let him go before the season ended 5 weeks from now.

Yeah, last game for Norfolk would be September 4, but being released early was much better for school, family, coaching, etc.
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(08-22-2017 09:53 PM)Scooter Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 09:49 PM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(08-22-2017 09:44 PM)Scooter Wrote:  A little bird told me that Janish starts tomorrow 03-wink

Great news. I noticed the Os put out a brief press release on his release and his return to his alma mater. It was nice of them to let him go before the season ended 5 weeks from now.

Yeah, last game for Norfolk would be September 4, but being released early was much better for school, family, coaching, etc.

Given he was under contract, he always could have been called up through September.
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