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(08-08-2017 09:33 PM)TTT Wrote:  Here's the problem...our fans/administration are so friggin obsessed with any and everything SEC that we make these crap deals like a 2 for 1 vs a bottom feeder SEC team. Okay, so you say it's a 1 for 1 plus a money game? Then let's take the 1 for 1 and take our money game to the Texas' and Michigans of the world and actually get some REAL money AND national attention while we're at it....not no 650k "money game" from state.

TTT.. you still have to get those other schools to agree to it.

You can't just snap your fingers and say, Hey Texas.. we've got a game at your place.
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We are getting a middle of the pack SEC school to come to Hattiesburg. How is this not a win ?
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(08-09-2017 08:16 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  You can't just snap your fingers and say, Hey Texas.. we've got a game at your place.

You can't?

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Let it also be remembered that about a year ago a two game series with Auburn was announced and said at the time that it was the highest payout an SEC school had ever given a non-SEC opponent.

I'm not going to go look that up, but I'm sure somebody will correct me if I'm wrong.
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(08-09-2017 07:12 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:14 AM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:46 PM)nastybunch Wrote:  Wow, we certainly have many, many small time thinking fans, don't we. You guys do know that this is what JSU, Alcon, and MVSU do don't you?

Name one time a FBS school ever went to any of those 3 schools and played a football team.

We certainly have a bunch of fans who have no appreciation of our history. Go look at the schedule when Brett Favre was a senior in 1990. Three home games, one of which was Delta State. Go look at who some of Jim Carmody's teams had to face in any given year. He never got to face MSU in Hattiesburg, but managed to beat them 4 of 6 times.

Some of you snowflakes need to stop and see where we've been before.

So, you are ok going back to those days, Gotcha...Looks like you might be the snowflake...A Huge step backwards for Southern Miss football.

That's right. I want only 3 home games per year every year. Preferably one against a D-2 team. That's exactly what I want.
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(08-08-2017 10:51 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  If ECU can schedule home and homes with VT and West Virginia, and UCF and USF can schedule home and homes with GT, then USM is perfectly capable of doing the same

ECU, UCF, and USF all have substantially more financial pull than we do. This is an indisputable fact.

Quote:We have done it in the past with NC State, Cal, Illinois, etc...we can certainly do it again. Don't use your poor, "it's who we are now", logic to brand us because it's simply not the case with those that make the agreements.

The key phrase in that quote is "in the past." Times have changed dramatically since those agreements were signed. Each one of those schools has scored a substantial windfall since with the glut of P5 television/playoff money. It's foolish to simply assume we could get the same deals today. It's not so much who we are now, it's who THEY are now.
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(08-09-2017 08:18 AM)Eagle9 Wrote:  We are getting a middle of the pack SEC school to come to Hattiesburg. How is this not a win ?

If we had announced the same exact games with Missouri or Arkansas or Vanderbilt, everyone would be thrilled. But this is State, so it's different because reasons.
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(08-09-2017 08:38 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 10:51 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  If ECU can schedule home and homes with VT and West Virginia, and UCF and USF can schedule home and homes with GT, then USM is perfectly capable of doing the same

ECU, UCF, and USF all have substantially more financial pull than we do. This is an indisputable fact.

Quote:We have done it in the past with NC State, Cal, Illinois, etc...we can certainly do it again. Don't use your poor, "it's who we are now", logic to brand us because it's simply not the case with those that make the agreements.

The key phrase in that quote is "in the past." Times have changed dramatically since those agreements were signed. Each one of those schools has scored a substantial windfall since with the glut of P5 television/playoff money. It's foolish to simply assume we could get the same deals today. It's not so much who we are now, it's who THEY are now.

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Financial terms undisclosed .. Will it be enough to cover Giblets 300K salary? Tarps for Flamingo Field? Folding chairs for the Duck Blinds in Lucky Charm's remodeled coliseum?
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(08-09-2017 08:51 AM)Black Diamond Reb Wrote:  Financial terms undisclosed .. Will it be enough to cover Giblets 300K salary? Tarps for Flamingo Field? Folding chairs for the Duck Blinds in Lucky Charm's remodeled coliseum?

moire of this should work just fine 03-wink

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Was the home and home with BYU officially canceled?

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(08-09-2017 09:25 AM)Ace Barker Wrote:  Was the home and home with BYU officially canceled?

Ace...

Never saw an official announcement but I don't think it's happening.
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(08-09-2017 09:25 AM)Ace Barker Wrote:  Was the home and home with BYU officially canceled?

Ace...

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(08-09-2017 08:38 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 10:51 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  If ECU can schedule home and homes with VT and West Virginia, and UCF and USF can schedule home and homes with GT, then USM is perfectly capable of doing the same

ECU, UCF, and USF all have substantially more financial pull than we do. This is an indisputable fact.

Also, UCF and USF are in recruiting hotbeds. So, teams are willing to go play there to get their name out in that area in hopes of getting a few players from South Florida area. That's why some teams are willing to go play at Tulane (New Orleans area recruits) and Rice (Houston area recruits) also. They are marketing their programs in those areas moreso than going to play those teams.
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(08-09-2017 10:09 AM)Eagleholic Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 08:38 AM)HarborPointe Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 10:51 PM)Nuggets Ghostbuster Wrote:  If ECU can schedule home and homes with VT and West Virginia, and UCF and USF can schedule home and homes with GT, then USM is perfectly capable of doing the same

ECU, UCF, and USF all have substantially more financial pull than we do. This is an indisputable fact.

Also, UCF and USF are in recruiting hotbeds. So, teams are willing to go play there to get their name out in that area in hopes of getting a few players from South Florida area. That's why some teams are willing to go play at Tulane (New Orleans area recruits) and Rice (Houston area recruits) also. They are marketing their programs in those areas moreso than going to play those teams.

Exactly.

It's why freakin' Charlotte has deals with UNC and Maryland. Teams want to play in large metro areas where 'crootin is good and these schools have large alumni bases.
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(08-09-2017 09:33 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 09:25 AM)Ace Barker Wrote:  Was the home and home with BYU officially canceled?

Ace...

Never saw an official announcement but I don't think it's happening.

This and the Navy buyout were both points I raised constantly when talking with Bill. He indicated that all of those games were 100% not happening but never made any official announcement.
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(08-09-2017 10:20 AM)Eagle Lurker Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 09:33 AM)BeagleUSM Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 09:25 AM)Ace Barker Wrote:  Was the home and home with BYU officially canceled?

Ace...

Never saw an official announcement but I don't think it's happening.

This and the Navy buyout were both points I raised constantly when talking with Bill. He indicated that all of those games were 100% not happening but never made any official announcement.

Thanks Lurker and Stink. I knew about Navy and thought that BYU was also canceled but checking. I remember removing it from my future football schedules

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It will be a few years yet, but someone let me know the amount that State pays us to get out of the '24 game here.
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(08-08-2017 09:33 PM)HarborPointe Wrote:   Hattiesburg American

There's a bastion of truth and information.
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(08-09-2017 11:24 AM)nastybunch Wrote:  It will be a few years yet, but someone let me know the amount that State pays us to get out of the '24 game here.

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