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Your Frank is showing, Clarity. Take a deep breath. Everything is going to be okay. You don't think Cal Baptist will be able to draw in Riverside. I think they have a chance. Time will tell.
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Lol someone challenges your view and you start callling me Frank. Your original post was really passive aggressive and unnecessary and I responded. That makes me Frank I guess lol. Believe it or not, not everyone agrees with you. Discussions are good and so are differing opinions.
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(08-08-2017 09:22 PM)Clarity Wrote:  UVU might average that on paper through numbers fudging but certainly not by people actually at the games. Not even close. Also 3,000 plus for Cal Baptist first year in D1 is way too optimistic.

You are wrong. UVU has done a great job of embracing the WAC and getting people out to the games. The attendance numbers are real. UVU has also been in the top 20 in NCAA men's soccer attendance for the past three years.

CBU has already sold over 500 season tickets for basketball before they have played a game in the arena. They did not build this $73 million arena for 1,000 fans per night. They have a forward thinking administration that has been planning this move to D1 for awhile. They have money and are ambitious. In the Riverside/Inland Empire area, there is only one other D1 school and that is UCR. They play in a rec center. CBU will have no trouble getting to 3,000 a night with the new arena. They should be able to attract a much better non-conference schedule than UCR puts together with the arena and market.
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Riverside, CA is part of the LA metro which has plenty of ppl to draw from. Liberty U basketball isn't their main focus. They are all about their FB program and buying games against P5 schools to come to their place to play them. GCU doesnt make money off their athletics and GCU has pumped money in to all aspects of their school. Just b/c most only hear about the 10 in 2 project some think GCU only cares about athletics. However GCU does value athletics its not the only thing they value at the school. The school itself is doing great things in the local community and beyond their own zip codes. Back to CBU, they should be a top3 school in attendance their 1st year in the WAC and they should be a fairly talented team in transition. CBU as it looks right now is following GCU's footsteps in their athletic endeavors.
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I think Cal Baptist will have great attendance at their games but Clarity nails it with his description of GCU and why they are successful. I also love how GCU fans try to play off the for profit status as simply a tax condition. Read about for profit schools and you'll see what it really means.
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(08-09-2017 09:31 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:22 PM)Clarity Wrote:  UVU might average that on paper through numbers fudging but certainly not by people actually at the games. Not even close. Also 3,000 plus for Cal Baptist first year in D1 is way too optimistic.

You are wrong. UVU has done a great job of embracing the WAC and getting people out to the games. The attendance numbers are real. UVU has also been in the top 20 in NCAA men's soccer attendance for the past three years.

CBU has already sold over 500 season tickets for basketball before they have played a game in the arena. They did not build this $73 million arena for 1,000 fans per night. They have a forward thinking administration that has been planning this move to D1 for awhile. They have money and are ambitious. In the Riverside/Inland Empire area, there is only one other D1 school and that is UCR. They play in a rec center. CBU will have no trouble getting to 3,000 a night with the new arena. They should be able to attract a much better non-conference schedule than UCR puts together with the arena and market.

Look at CSUB at UVU last year. There were no more than 200 people there and that's a fact. Every game I've seen there has been a ghost town. The numbers are completely false.
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I'm focused more on tournament wins than attendance. That is where $$$ is. Can someone please win a tournament game?
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The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
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(08-09-2017 05:07 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
So, if we had four sellouts (in addition to some other large crowds which were not sellouts) and NMSU came to town once, how does that constitute "the only time..." or even most of the time?

You seem to want the Ags to take credit for schools attendance improvements, and that's simply not true. Its a function of overall conference improvement.

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Not true at all at least for CSUB. We almost sold out Chicago State, sold out Utah Valley and had 3k for Seattle.
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(08-09-2017 05:18 PM)RunnerBall Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:07 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
So, if we had four sellouts and NMSU came to town once, how does that constitute "the only time..." or even most of the time?

You seem to want the Ags to take credit for schools attendance improvements, and that's simply not true. Its a function of overall conference improvement.

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(08-09-2017 05:07 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
Actually the UMKC game from this past season has the record for highest attendance
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(08-09-2017 06:42 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:07 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
Actually the UMKC game from this past season has the record for highest attendance

I was impressed. Think it rattled us a lot.
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(08-09-2017 10:10 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:42 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:07 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
Actually the UMKC game from this past season has the record for highest attendance

I was impressed. Think it rattled us a lot.
Over 7500 people were there for GCU legend DeWayne Russell's final game
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(08-09-2017 05:19 PM)Clarity Wrote:  Not true at all at least for CSUB. We almost sold out Chicago State, sold out Utah Valley and had 3k for Seattle.

I should have clarified before Bakersfield fans got their feelings hurt. I know that UTRGV, Utah Valley also had their largest for conference vs. the Aggies. How many teams sold out or had their largest crowd for any other team other than NMSU? I thought so.
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(08-10-2017 02:11 AM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 10:10 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:42 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:07 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
Actually the UMKC game from this past season has the record for highest attendance

I was impressed. Think it rattled us a lot.
Over 7500 people were there for GCU legend DeWayne Russell's final game

if it wasn't for that NMSU game was the biggest crowd for gcu vs the Aggies
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(08-10-2017 03:37 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:19 PM)Clarity Wrote:  Not true at all at least for CSUB. We almost sold out Chicago State, sold out Utah Valley and had 3k for Seattle.

I should have clarified before Bakersfield fans got their feelings hurt. I know that UTRGV, Utah Valley also had their largest for conference vs. the Aggies. How many teams sold out or had their largest crowd for any other team other than NMSU? I thought so.

No feelings hurt just pointing out you were objectively wrong. NMSU was actually one of the smaller crowds for UMKC at about 1000. Their largest in conference game was for Chicago State at about 2000. Seattle's largest draw was Utah Valley with about 600 more than NMSU. I can't find comprehensive numbers for Chicago State or Utah Valley. That's still half the league whose largest in conference draw wasn't NMSU. Not sure why you are so defensive and aggressive over something so trivial and meaningless.
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Having been to UVU games and having watched them on the internet, I can tell you that the attendance looks better in person. The building seats over 8000 folks, so it usually looks emptyish, even when there is 4,000+. Thanks to the BYU game we will have a bonafide sell out this year, but I doubt it will feel like a home game.
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(08-10-2017 03:59 PM)Clarity Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 03:37 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:19 PM)Clarity Wrote:  Not true at all at least for CSUB. We almost sold out Chicago State, sold out Utah Valley and had 3k for Seattle.

I should have clarified before Bakersfield fans got their feelings hurt. I know that UTRGV, Utah Valley also had their largest for conference vs. the Aggies. How many teams sold out or had their largest crowd for any other team other than NMSU? I thought so.

No feelings hurt just pointing out you were objectively wrong. NMSU was actually one of the smaller crowds for UMKC at about 1000. Their largest in conference game was for Chicago State at about 2000. Seattle's largest draw was Utah Valley with about 600 more than NMSU. I can't find comprehensive numbers for Chicago State or Utah Valley. That's still half the league whose largest in conference draw wasn't NMSU. Not sure why you are so defensive and aggressive over something so trivial and meaningless.

UMKC for decades has had lower attendance during weekday games vs weekend.
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(08-10-2017 03:38 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 02:11 AM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 10:10 PM)RoosHouse Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:42 PM)ThunderDan49_2 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 05:07 PM)dancingNMSUaggie Wrote:  The only times WAC teams had huge attendance for conference games was when NMSU came to town, even GCU. GCU ticket booth person told me NMSU was always the game everyone at GCU lived for. GCU did pretty much have a sellout for every game.
Actually the UMKC game from this past season has the record for highest attendance

I was impressed. Think it rattled us a lot.
Over 7500 people were there for GCU legend DeWayne Russell's final game

if it wasn't for that NMSU game was the biggest crowd for gcu vs the Aggies
Actually that was the third largest crowd of the year. UMKC was one, Louisville was two, and the NMSU game was third. All three were however the largest crowds in arena history.
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