Fred used to say, "If you play sound defense, win the kicking game, and have a good quarterback, you can beat anybody." I want to see where we are on the first two of those before becoming overly concerned about the third. If you can do the first two and have a game manager, you can be okay, particularly against CUSA opposition. Without the first two, you need that good QB to be an all-American. And even that may not be enough--we went 3-8 with Tommy Kramer.

(08-09-2017 06:40 PM)owl40 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 02:55 PM)McHargue Wrote:  Well yes we do not have Deshaun Watson or Johnny Manziel on the roster, but every QB is coached like they are going to be a game manager. Go according to the script, run the play that is called, and go through your progressions. Especially when you have a young QB you're not going to let them make too many checks at the line or audible out of bad looks because they don't know what they're looking at yet. However, every offense in the country rely's on broken plays that turn in to big plays regardless of how well they function according to the system. I don't think any of us know quite yet which of our QB's is best at making broken plays big plays, but I know coach Lynch is not going to handicap them by saying they need to stay in a box. They'll have the liberty to scramble and try and make plays, and they have their rules (like every QB in the country) that keep them from making a bad play worse. So sure, they're young and we'll have to limit what they call and what we take in to a game week but that does not make them a game manager. Take care of the ball, hit your big plays when they're there, and if one of them is clearly good at making big plays happen off script then we'll see it pretty quickly.

McHargue..gotta push back and disagree with you on this one. You and Chase were not game managers.

Both of you made plays with your mind, your feet, and your arm (and your heart when hurt)....and the results may have been more W's than all the other QB's in the DB era combined.

Unfortunately, we have not seen Glaesman or Smalls yet but what we have seen of the other two is that they are game managers who have not shown that ability to go beyond what they are coached to do which is run the play called and not make it through progressions, on-the-line checks, making positive things happen from broken plays, etc.

In Australia, I hope DB has the same confidence in one of the new Freshman that he had in you before that Texas game many years ago. That was one of his best coaching decisions.

Owl40 I appreciate the kind words. Freshman get labeled game managers because coaches are trying to protect them. Get through your progressions, if you can run, run, and don't be careless with the football. A freshman QB knows they have a short leash so they are much less likely to try and make things happen off script because if it goes poorly they don't have the body of work to keep them in the game if they make another mistake.

Our staff is not dumb. They know they cannot afford another 3-8 season so do not expect zone read on first and second down and a prayer on 3&9. The offense will be opened up and the QB (whoever he is) will be expected to make plays off script. How that happens I'm not sure, I don't have the secrets to the playbook and if I did I wouldn't be sharing them on a public forum. But I can say energy at practice is night and day from last season, and if we get past UTEP and FIU through the first 5 games we are in good shape to have a decent year.

(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)Bailiff_Lingo_Bingo Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 07:11 PM)ExcitedOwl18 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:40 PM)owl40 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 02:55 PM)McHargue Wrote:  Well yes we do not have Deshaun Watson or Johnny Manziel on the roster, but every QB is coached like they are going to be a game manager. Go according to the script, run the play that is called, and go through your progressions. Especially when you have a young QB you're not going to let them make too many checks at the line or audible out of bad looks because they don't know what they're looking at yet. However, every offense in the country rely's on broken plays that turn in to big plays regardless of how well they function according to the system. I don't think any of us know quite yet which of our QB's is best at making broken plays big plays, but I know coach Lynch is not going to handicap them by saying they need to stay in a box. They'll have the liberty to scramble and try and make plays, and they have their rules (like every QB in the country) that keep them from making a bad play worse. So sure, they're young and we'll have to limit what they call and what we take in to a game week but that does not make them a game manager. Take care of the ball, hit your big plays when they're there, and if one of them is clearly good at making big plays happen off script then we'll see it pretty quickly.

McHargue..gotta push back and disagree with you on this one. You and Chase were not game managers.

Both of you made plays with your mind, your feet, and your arm (and your heart when hurt)....and the results may have been more W's than all the other QB's in the DB era combined.

Unfortunately, we have not seen Glaesman or Smalls yet but what we have seen of the other two is that they are game managers who have not shown that ability to go beyond what they are coached to do which is run the play called and not make it through progressions, on-the-line checks, making positive things happen from broken plays, etc.

In Australia, I hope DB has the same confidence in one of the new Freshman that he had in you before that Texas game many years ago. That was one of his best coaching decisions.

I don't know about that. Granato hasn't shown anything. He's barely played. Tyner showed some good flashes against UTEP last year and was horrible against Stanford.

Too early to judge either one IMO. In the video posted on Twitter today, I caught a couple of glimpses and it appeared to be Tyner running with the first team O.

link to video plz?

It's the coach steward/Sam Stewart one on Twitter.

(08-09-2017 06:40 PM)owl40 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 02:55 PM)McHargue Wrote:  Well yes we do not have Deshaun Watson or Johnny Manziel on the roster, but every QB is coached like they are going to be a game manager. Go according to the script, run the play that is called, and go through your progressions. Especially when you have a young QB you're not going to let them make too many checks at the line or audible out of bad looks because they don't know what they're looking at yet. However, every offense in the country rely's on broken plays that turn in to big plays regardless of how well they function according to the system. I don't think any of us know quite yet which of our QB's is best at making broken plays big plays, but I know coach Lynch is not going to handicap them by saying they need to stay in a box. They'll have the liberty to scramble and try and make plays, and they have their rules (like every QB in the country) that keep them from making a bad play worse. So sure, they're young and we'll have to limit what they call and what we take in to a game week but that does not make them a game manager. Take care of the ball, hit your big plays when they're there, and if one of them is clearly good at making big plays happen off script then we'll see it pretty quickly.

McHargue..gotta push back and disagree with you on this one. You and Chase were not game managers.

Both of you made plays with your mind, your feet, and your arm (and your heart when hurt)....and the results may have been more W's than all the other QB's in the DB era combined.
[deletia]

Emphasis added. That statement made me curious, so I looked it up. Bailiff has 56 total wins at Rice. Of those, McHargue had 22 wins in games he started (there were a couple of games with injuries he didn't finish) and Clement had 13. That leaves 21 wins for the rest of Bailiff's QBs to date, which means that McHargue is the leader in the clubhouse, even without adding in Clement's total wins, too.

I don't know how much anybody remembers 2009-2010, but the last time we had an offense that relied on short runs and short passes, every defense we went up against rolled the defensive backs up to squeeze those throwing windows too narrow for us to hit and to clog the running lanes as soon as we handed it off. Unless our new QB can pass the ball through a doughnut or our O-line can reliably get pancake blocks, we need an occasional deep threat to open things up.

(08-10-2017 09:45 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  I don't know how much anybody remembers 2009-2010, but the last time we had an offense that relied on short runs and short passes, every defense we went up against rolled the defensive backs up to squeeze those throwing windows too narrow for us to hit and to clog the running lanes as soon as we handed it off. Unless our new QB can pass the ball through a doughnut or our O-line can reliably get pancake blocks, we need an occasional deep threat to open things up.

True.

So, what if we don't the guy to complete those? how often must we work with 2nd and ten to make this offense go? Is it really a deep threat if our guy is 20% on passes over 20 yards?

personally, I don't care how they do it, as long as they do it. I'll leave the details to the professional and armchair coaches. If our guy is dancing in the end zone, I don't care if it is the first play of the drive or the 15th. I don't care if it was a 60 yard pass or a 3 yard run. I hope the offense scores, whether it is with a game manager or a Manziel crazy guy. I want the defense to force punts. I don't care how they do it.

(08-10-2017 10:26 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 09:45 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  I don't know how much anybody remembers 2009-2010, but the last time we had an offense that relied on short runs and short passes, every defense we went up against rolled the defensive backs up to squeeze those throwing windows too narrow for us to hit and to clog the running lanes as soon as we handed it off. Unless our new QB can pass the ball through a doughnut or our O-line can reliably get pancake blocks, we need an occasional deep threat to open things up.

True.

So, what if we don't the guy to complete those? how often must we work with 2nd and ten to make this offense go? Is it really a deep threat if our guy is 20% on passes over 20 yards?

personally, I don't care how they do it, as long as they do it. I'll leave the details to the professional and armchair coaches. If our guy is dancing in the end zone, I don't care if it is the first play of the drive or the 15th. I don't care if it was a 60 yard pass or a 3 yard run. I hope the offense scores, whether it is with a game manager or a Manziel crazy guy. I want the defense to force punts. I don't care how they do it.

Something like this?

https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/6hw2hdl...ea5d5f.jpg

(08-10-2017 09:45 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  Unless our new QB can pass the ball through a doughnut or our O-line can reliably get pancake blocks, we need an occasional deep threat to open things up.

It's a good thing I've had breakfast already.

We have usually had all 3 when Rice is doing well. The 3-8 must have been in 1976 when we lost the good defense and kicking. In the last of the 1973 season when we had TK as a freshman starter, a good kicking (Pringle) returners (Swierc and Henley) and defense, we won 4 straight against Arkansas, TCU, A&M and Baylor.

(08-09-2017 09:08 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Fred used to say, "If you play sound defense, win the kicking game, and have a good quarterback, you can beat anybody." I want to see where we are on the first two of those before becoming overly concerned about the third. If you can do the first two and have a game manager, you can be okay, particularly against CUSA opposition. Without the first two, you need that good QB to be an all-American. And even that may not be enough--we went 3-8 with Tommy Kramer.

(08-10-2017 10:46 AM)JSA Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 10:26 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 09:45 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  I don't know how much anybody remembers 2009-2010, but the last time we had an offense that relied on short runs and short passes, every defense we went up against rolled the defensive backs up to squeeze those throwing windows too narrow for us to hit and to clog the running lanes as soon as we handed it off. Unless our new QB can pass the ball through a doughnut or our O-line can reliably get pancake blocks, we need an occasional deep threat to open things up.

True.

So, what if we don't the guy to complete those? how often must we work with 2nd and ten to make this offense go? Is it really a deep threat if our guy is 20% on passes over 20 yards?

personally, I don't care how they do it, as long as they do it. I'll leave the details to the professional and armchair coaches. If our guy is dancing in the end zone, I don't care if it is the first play of the drive or the 15th. I don't care if it was a 60 yard pass or a 3 yard run. I hope the offense scores, whether it is with a game manager or a Manziel crazy guy. I want the defense to force punts. I don't care how they do it.

Something like this?

https://html2-f.scribdassets.com/6hw2hdl...ea5d5f.jpg

The last part, yes.

it could just as easily list:

1. Complete at least one 60 yard (in the air) pass per half.

2. Average 7 yards per carry

3. Average 15 yards per catch.

4. Zero turnovers.

I don't care, if it leads to scores and wins. I don't care if the defense play cover 4.5, 7 deep, all left, if they stop the other team.

I don't have the knowledge many here have or profess to have. I cannot tell you what will work or not work, except on things like hand clapping. I'm just a fan who wants to win.

(08-09-2017 06:44 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:08 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 10:57 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Get the play off in time too I hope...but that depends mostly on getting play calls in efficiently.

Tiki-what stadium is that?

A Google Image search using the image URL (https://vgy.me/wnpFI7.gif) pegs it as Buffalo/Buff Stadium, the minor league baseball park primarily used by the Houston Buffaloes from 1928 through 1961 (except for 1943 to 1945 because of World War II).

According to the Wikipedia page linked above, it was bounded by Leeland Street, St. Bernard Street (present-day Cullen Boulevard), Coyle Street, and Milby Street in the East End.

the old finger's on I-45 close to UH was where that stadium was. Location of home plate was where a sports museum was. Sad to see it close-another old time Houston place. Speaking of home plates, we were at the Mall of the America's and they had one also, since it was built where Metropolitan Stadium was

(08-10-2017 03:34 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:44 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:08 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 10:57 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Get the play off in time too I hope...but that depends mostly on getting play calls in efficiently.

Tiki-what stadium is that?

A Google Image search using the image URL (https://vgy.me/wnpFI7.gif) pegs it as Buffalo/Buff Stadium, the minor league baseball park primarily used by the Houston Buffaloes from 1928 through 1961 (except for 1943 to 1945 because of World War II).

According to the Wikipedia page linked above, it was bounded by Leeland Street, St. Bernard Street (present-day Cullen Boulevard), Coyle Street, and Milby Street in the East End.

the old finger's on I-45 close to UH was where that stadium was. Location of home plate was where a sports museum was. Sad to see it close-another old time Houston place. Speaking of home plates, we were at the Mall of the America's and they had one also, since it was built where Metropolitan Stadium was

I remember Buff Stadium with great fondness. Went to a number of games there from 58 through 61 when the Houston Buffs were a St. Louis, then Chicago Cubs, AAA farm team in the American Association. Used to hang out near the bullpen. Billy Williams and Ron Santo were with the club for a time. My favorite player was an old veteran named Pidge Browne. Remember once trying to get one of the Buff players to autograph a baseball for me and I couldn't get his attention, so this black haired wavy haired young guy comes up to me and offers to take the ball over and get it autographed. It was Mickey Herskowitz, then a Post cub sports reporter -- my first of several pleasant meetings with Mickey over the years.

Can any of you remember who the radio announcing team was for the Buffs during that time? It was Dan Rather, and Art McGee. Dan was a general assignments reporter for I believe KTRH adio, it might've been KPRC. Dan had a thick Texas accent, and Art McGee had a high squeaky voice similar to Don Knotts. I remember their nightly sign off: "(Dan:). "This is Dan Rathuh.... (Art, squeaking:) and this is Art McGee..... (Dan:) " inviting you to… follow the Buffs...in...action."

I remember being disappointed that the stadium was not given a facelift and made the initial National League home for the local NL team while the Astrodome was being built. Did this to this day. I think they could've fairly easily added on a steel grandstand upper deck and seated 32,000, as much as easily as did Colt Stadium.

The old stadium stood for several years before demolition. I know that because I had already gotten my commercial drivers license, and I had to go out Cullen Boulevard to William Cameron Company and some other building materials wholesalers to get stuff for my grandfather's lumberyard. I remember passing by with sadness the old stadium, where for a couple of years the sign on the marquee remained unchanged. It said, "No game today".

(08-10-2017 11:07 AM)WestGrayStreetOwl Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 09:45 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  Unless our new QB can pass the ball through a doughnut or our O-line can reliably get pancake blocks, we need an occasional deep threat to open things up.

It's a good thing I've had breakfast already.

Just don't waffle around getting the play called, and avoid turnovers, and we won't be toast.

(08-10-2017 09:13 PM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 11:07 AM)WestGrayStreetOwl Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 09:45 AM)franklyconfused Wrote:  Unless our new QB can pass the ball through a doughnut or our O-line can reliably get pancake blocks, we need an occasional deep threat to open things up.

It's a good thing I've had breakfast already.

Just don't waffle around getting the play called, and avoid turnovers, and we won't be toast.

I don't ujelly like puns, but that was good.

(08-10-2017 06:15 PM)Ricefootballnet Wrote:  ... My favorite player was an old veteran named Pidge Browne. ...

(08-10-2017 06:15 PM)Ricefootballnet Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 03:34 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:44 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:08 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 10:57 AM)Tiki Owl Wrote:  Get the play off in time too I hope...but that depends mostly on getting play calls in efficiently.

Tiki-what stadium is that?

A Google Image search using the image URL (https://vgy.me/wnpFI7.gif) pegs it as Buffalo/Buff Stadium, the minor league baseball park primarily used by the Houston Buffaloes from 1928 through 1961 (except for 1943 to 1945 because of World War II).

According to the Wikipedia page linked above, it was bounded by Leeland Street, St. Bernard Street (present-day Cullen Boulevard), Coyle Street, and Milby Street in the East End.

the old finger's on I-45 close to UH was where that stadium was. Location of home plate was where a sports museum was. Sad to see it close-another old time Houston place. Speaking of home plates, we were at the Mall of the America's and they had one also, since it was built where Metropolitan Stadium was

I remember Buff Stadium with great fondness. Went to a number of games there from 58 through 61 when the Houston Buffs were a St. Louis, then Chicago Cubs, AAA farm team in the American Association. Used to hang out near the bullpen. Billy Williams and Ron Santo were with the club for a time. My favorite player was an old veteran named Pidge Browne. Remember once trying to get one of the Buff players to autograph a baseball for me and I couldn't get his attention, so this black haired wavy haired young guy comes up to me and offers to take the ball over and get it autographed. It was Mickey Herskowitz, then a Post cub sports reporter -- my first of several pleasant meetings with Mickey over the years.

Can any of you remember who the radio announcing team was for the Buffs during that time? It was Dan Rather, and Art McGee. Dan was a general assignments reporter for I believe KTRH adio, it might've been KPRC. Dan had a thick Texas accent, and Art McGee had a high squeaky voice similar to Don Knotts. I remember their nightly sign off: "(Dan:). "This is Dan Rathuh.... (Art, squeaking:) and this is Art McGee..... (Dan:) " inviting you to… follow the Buffs...in...action."

I remember being disappointed that the stadium was not given a facelift and made the initial National League home for the local NL team while the Astrodome was being built. Did this to this day. I think they could've fairly easily added on a steel grandstand upper deck and seated 32,000, as much as easily as did Colt Stadium.

The old stadium stood for several years before demolition. I know that because I had already gotten my commercial drivers license, and I had to go out Cullen Boulevard to William Cameron Company and some other building materials wholesalers to get stuff for my grandfather's lumberyard. I remember passing by with sadness the old stadium, where for a couple of years the sign on the marquee remained unchanged. It said, "No game today".

Possibly way OT, but thinking of Pidge Browne, made me recall the magnetic and colorful voice of radio announcer Connie Alexander who could paint a picture of the
old SWC games sponsored by Humble Oil Co.

I always thought he outshone Kern Tips in his ability to dramatize and describe the gridiron action.

Wondering what other old timers recall about Connie Alexander.

Back on topic. So apparently there is a scrimmage tomorrow. Anyone attending?

(08-11-2017 02:30 PM)owlman70 Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 06:15 PM)Ricefootballnet Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 03:34 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:44 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:08 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  Tiki-what stadium is that?

A Google Image search using the image URL (https://vgy.me/wnpFI7.gif) pegs it as Buffalo/Buff Stadium, the minor league baseball park primarily used by the Houston Buffaloes from 1928 through 1961 (except for 1943 to 1945 because of World War II).

According to the Wikipedia page linked above, it was bounded by Leeland Street, St. Bernard Street (present-day Cullen Boulevard), Coyle Street, and Milby Street in the East End.

the old finger's on I-45 close to UH was where that stadium was. Location of home plate was where a sports museum was. Sad to see it close-another old time Houston place. Speaking of home plates, we were at the Mall of the America's and they had one also, since it was built where Metropolitan Stadium was

I remember Buff Stadium with great fondness. Went to a number of games there from 58 through 61 when the Houston Buffs were a St. Louis, then Chicago Cubs, AAA farm team in the American Association. Used to hang out near the bullpen. Billy Williams and Ron Santo were with the club for a time. My favorite player was an old veteran named Pidge Browne. Remember once trying to get one of the Buff players to autograph a baseball for me and I couldn't get his attention, so this black haired wavy haired young guy comes up to me and offers to take the ball over and get it autographed. It was Mickey Herskowitz, then a Post cub sports reporter -- my first of several pleasant meetings with Mickey over the years.

Can any of you remember who the radio announcing team was for the Buffs during that time? It was Dan Rather, and Art McGee. Dan was a general assignments reporter for I believe KTRH adio, it might've been KPRC. Dan had a thick Texas accent, and Art McGee had a high squeaky voice similar to Don Knotts. I remember their nightly sign off: "(Dan:). "This is Dan Rathuh.... (Art, squeaking:) and this is Art McGee..... (Dan:) " inviting you to… follow the Buffs...in...action."

I remember being disappointed that the stadium was not given a facelift and made the initial National League home for the local NL team while the Astrodome was being built. Did this to this day. I think they could've fairly easily added on a steel grandstand upper deck and seated 32,000, as much as easily as did Colt Stadium.

The old stadium stood for several years before demolition. I know that because I had already gotten my commercial drivers license, and I had to go out Cullen Boulevard to William Cameron Company and some other building materials wholesalers to get stuff for my grandfather's lumberyard. I remember passing by with sadness the old stadium, where for a couple of years the sign on the marquee remained unchanged. It said, "No game today".

Possibly way OT, but thinking of Pidge Browne, made me recall the magnetic and colorful voice of radio announcer Connie Alexander who could paint a picture of the
old SWC games sponsored by Humble Oil Co.

I always thought he outshone Kern Tips in his ability to dramatize and describe the gridiron action.

Wondering what other old timers recall about Connie Alexander.

"And speaking of old timers, if you want your car to last a long time, take it do your nearest Humble service station. Humble...."

Humble sponsor of the SWC game of the week on radio announced by Kern Tips who preferred Rice home games because he could stay in Houston.

(08-11-2017 02:48 PM)JSA Wrote:  

(08-11-2017 02:30 PM)owlman70 Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 06:15 PM)Ricefootballnet Wrote:  

(08-10-2017 03:34 PM)texowl2 Wrote:  

(08-09-2017 06:44 PM)Almadenmike Wrote:  A Google Image search using the image URL (https://vgy.me/wnpFI7.gif) pegs it as Buffalo/Buff Stadium, the minor league baseball park primarily used by the Houston Buffaloes from 1928 through 1961 (except for 1943 to 1945 because of World War II).

According to the Wikipedia page linked above, it was bounded by Leeland Street, St. Bernard Street (present-day Cullen Boulevard), Coyle Street, and Milby Street in the East End.

the old finger's on I-45 close to UH was where that stadium was. Location of home plate was where a sports museum was. Sad to see it close-another old time Houston place. Speaking of home plates, we were at the Mall of the America's and they had one also, since it was built where Metropolitan Stadium was

I remember Buff Stadium with great fondness. Went to a number of games there from 58 through 61 when the Houston Buffs were a St. Louis, then Chicago Cubs, AAA farm team in the American Association. Used to hang out near the bullpen. Billy Williams and Ron Santo were with the club for a time. My favorite player was an old veteran named Pidge Browne. Remember once trying to get one of the Buff players to autograph a baseball for me and I couldn't get his attention, so this black haired wavy haired young guy comes up to me and offers to take the ball over and get it autographed. It was Mickey Herskowitz, then a Post cub sports reporter -- my first of several pleasant meetings with Mickey over the years.

Can any of you remember who the radio announcing team was for the Buffs during that time? It was Dan Rather, and Art McGee. Dan was a general assignments reporter for I believe KTRH adio, it might've been KPRC. Dan had a thick Texas accent, and Art McGee had a high squeaky voice similar to Don Knotts. I remember their nightly sign off: "(Dan:). "This is Dan Rathuh.... (Art, squeaking:) and this is Art McGee..... (Dan:) " inviting you to… follow the Buffs...in...action."

I remember being disappointed that the stadium was not given a facelift and made the initial National League home for the local NL team while the Astrodome was being built. Did this to this day. I think they could've fairly easily added on a steel grandstand upper deck and seated 32,000, as much as easily as did Colt Stadium.

The old stadium stood for several years before demolition. I know that because I had already gotten my commercial drivers license, and I had to go out Cullen Boulevard to William Cameron Company and some other building materials wholesalers to get stuff for my grandfather's lumberyard. I remember passing by with sadness the old stadium, where for a couple of years the sign on the marquee remained unchanged. It said, "No game today".

Possibly way OT, but thinking of Pidge Browne, made me recall the magnetic and colorful voice of radio announcer Connie Alexander who could paint a picture of the
old SWC games sponsored by Humble Oil Co.

I always thought he outshone Kern Tips in his ability to dramatize and describe the gridiron action.

Wondering what other old timers recall about Connie Alexander.

"And speaking of old timers, if you want your car to last a long time, take it do you nearest Humble service station. Humble...."

I know its OT, but can't help it. I went into that baseball museum in the Fingers whse years ago. It was really cool, and if i'm not mistaken home plate - as displayed on the floor in the museum - was in the exact location that it was in the stadium (before demolition).