(08-07-2017 12:55 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 12:39 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I came of age with Nirvana, Smashing Pumpkins, Pearl Jam, NIN, Rage Against the Machine, Metallica, etc not to mention one of the best local indy scenes in the country (Self, The Katies, The Features, etc) right there in the Boro.

As for hip hop/rap, we had Ice Cub, Dr. Dre, Snoop, B.I.G., Beastie Boys, Mary J Blige, etc.

This next generation is having a hard time living up to their predecessors

Said every old man ever.

I love new music. Love to discover it. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated. How many of them even right there own **** these days? Everything is "pop" now. Country music has been absolutely ruined. Of course the 90's had this same crap going on too (Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, etc.), but they were the exceptions instead of the rule. Today that phenomenon has flipped.

The 90's musicians didn't give a F about any of that. They just played. If you didn't like it well that was your problem. I don't think this is an issue of age bias.

You know sonny, back my day we didn't have that auto tune. We didn't need that crap. If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.

That said, I'm starting to see signs of this trend reversing though. I hope so.

(08-07-2017 01:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I love new music. Love to discover it. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated. How many of them even right there own **** these days? Everything is "pop" now. Country music has been absolutely ruined. Of course the 90's had this same crap going on too (Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, etc.), but they were the exceptions instead of the rule. Today that phenomenon has flipped.

The 90's musicians didn't give a F about any of that. They just played. If you didn't like it well that was your problem. I don't think this is an issue of age bias.

You know sonny, back my day we didn't have that auto tune. We didn't need that crap. If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.

That said, I'm starting to see signs of this trend reversing though. I hope so.

You do realize the same complaints were lodged about grunge and the "slacker/loser" generation?

(08-07-2017 01:46 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I love new music. Love to discover it. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated. How many of them even right there own **** these days? Everything is "pop" now. Country music has been absolutely ruined. Of course the 90's had this same crap going on too (Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, etc.), but they were the exceptions instead of the rule. Today that phenomenon has flipped.

The 90's musicians didn't give a F about any of that. They just played. If you didn't like it well that was your problem. I don't think this is an issue of age bias.

You know sonny, back my day we didn't have that auto tune. We didn't need that crap. If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.

That said, I'm starting to see signs of this trend reversing though. I hope so.

You do realize the same complaints were lodged about grunge and the "slacker/loser" generation?

That doesn't even make any sense. How was indy/alternative trying to be pop-like? It was trying to be the antithesis of pop. That was just a dumb comment.

(08-07-2017 02:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:46 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I love new music. Love to discover it. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated. How many of them even right there own **** these days? Everything is "pop" now. Country music has been absolutely ruined. Of course the 90's had this same crap going on too (Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, etc.), but they were the exceptions instead of the rule. Today that phenomenon has flipped.

The 90's musicians didn't give a F about any of that. They just played. If you didn't like it well that was your problem. I don't think this is an issue of age bias.

You know sonny, back my day we didn't have that auto tune. We didn't need that crap. If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.

That said, I'm starting to see signs of this trend reversing though. I hope so.

You do realize the same complaints were lodged about grunge and the "slacker/loser" generation?

That doesn't even make any sense. How was indy/alternative trying to be pop-like? It was trying to be the antithesis of pop. That was just a dumb comment.

Things said about grunge pulled directly from your first post;

- If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.
-. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated.

Popular music in every generation is playing to the lowest common denominator. You have to find the bands that are doing their own thing. It was true then and it is now.

I admit never heard of the guy, had to google it...I listen to my boys Cage the Elephant and mostly alt rock and grunge bands from the 90's so hip hop nowadays just does not move the needle for me...

(08-07-2017 02:35 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 02:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:46 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I love new music. Love to discover it. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated. How many of them even right there own **** these days? Everything is "pop" now. Country music has been absolutely ruined. Of course the 90's had this same crap going on too (Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, etc.), but they were the exceptions instead of the rule. Today that phenomenon has flipped.

The 90's musicians didn't give a F about any of that. They just played. If you didn't like it well that was your problem. I don't think this is an issue of age bias.

You know sonny, back my day we didn't have that auto tune. We didn't need that crap. If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.

That said, I'm starting to see signs of this trend reversing though. I hope so.

You do realize the same complaints were lodged about grunge and the "slacker/loser" generation?

That doesn't even make any sense. How was indy/alternative trying to be pop-like? It was trying to be the antithesis of pop. That was just a dumb comment.

Things said about grunge pulled directly from your first post;

- If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.
-. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated.

Popular music in every generation is playing to the lowest common denominator. You have to find the bands that are doing their own thing. It was true then and it is now.

The mop the floor line was quoting an old timer. A joke. Thus the italics.

Pop music still existed in the 90's outside the bands I referenced all with the sole purpose of being famous regardless of how dumb the music was. While there are always copy cat artists of successful musicians, bands like Metallica, Nirvana et al weren't produced by a talent company with the sole purpose of making money for said company. And it was actually the fact that alternative music got so good that it also crossed into the top 40 pop side that led to Cobain committing suicide. That and drugs of course, but he didn't want the fame or like it. For you younger folk, alternative actually wasn't popular at one time.

The 90's alternative scene wasn't driven by pop culture. In many ways, it started driving pop culture and that distinction is important to grasp.

Next up in this thread:

TIBL screaming "get off my lawn". I never knew you were so old. And PiKapp will be with you screaming "no...you can't have your ball back". Ya'll boys are 30 going on 60.

Plenty of good music still out there. What are you listening to. Drive time radio?

Just saw Cody Jinks and Paul Cauthen in little old BG. Not big names but both were excellent. Sturgill Simpson isn't pop. Jamey Johnson isn't pop. Chris Stapleton isn't pop. All those guys are big right now and weren't cooked up in some studio down on Music Row.

As 518 mentioned Cage the Elephant grew out of little old BG. There's still good music. You need to look in our Music thread over here. Always some good stuff.

(08-07-2017 02:55 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 02:35 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 02:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:46 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:18 PM)ThreeifbyLightning Wrote:  I love new music. Love to discover it. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated. How many of them even right there own **** these days? Everything is "pop" now. Country music has been absolutely ruined. Of course the 90's had this same crap going on too (Matchbox 20, Third Eye Blind, etc.), but they were the exceptions instead of the rule. Today that phenomenon has flipped.

The 90's musicians didn't give a F about any of that. They just played. If you didn't like it well that was your problem. I don't think this is an issue of age bias.

You know sonny, back my day we didn't have that auto tune. We didn't need that crap. If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.

That said, I'm starting to see signs of this trend reversing though. I hope so.

You do realize the same complaints were lodged about grunge and the "slacker/loser" generation?

That doesn't even make any sense. How was indy/alternative trying to be pop-like? It was trying to be the antithesis of pop. That was just a dumb comment.

Things said about grunge pulled directly from your first post;

- If you couldn't sing then you mopped the floor.
-. Unfortunately today, there too many so called "musicians" trying to create the same sound to get famous and a good portion of it is fabricated.

Popular music in every generation is playing to the lowest common denominator. You have to find the bands that are doing their own thing. It was true then and it is now.

The mop the floor line was quoting an old timer. A joke. Thus the italics.

Pop music still existed in the 90's outside the bands I referenced all with the sole purpose of being famous regardless of how dumb the music was. While there are always copy cat artists of successful musicians, bands like Metallica, Nirvana et al weren't produced by a talent company with the sole purpose of making money for said company. And it was actually the fact that alternative music got so good that it also crossed into the top 40 pop side that led to Cobain committing suicide. That and drugs of course, but he didn't want the fame or like it. For you younger folk, alternative actually wasn't popular at one time.

The 90's alternative scene wasn't driven by pop culture. In many ways, it started driving pop culture and that distinction is important to grasp.

I understand that it was a joke but it was said about many alt artists in the 90s. Their vocal ability as well as musicality were questioned. We all know it was a BS way to ignore and denigrate that generations talent. But you're kind of doing it now.

I dont think you tried that hard if you don't think there are plenty of good artists out right now.

Also of note, a lot of the great indie bands/rockers from the 90s are still putting out quality work (Dinosaur Jr, the Pixies, Wilco, Stephen Malkmus and Spoon among others).

(08-07-2017 03:19 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  Next up in this thread:

TIBL screaming "get off my lawn". I never knew you were so old. And PiKapp will be with you screaming "no...you can't have your ball back". Ya'll boys are 30 going on 60.

Plenty of good music still out there. What are you listening to. Drive time radio?

Just saw Cody Jinks and Paul Cauthen in little old BG. Not big names but both were excellent. Sturgill Simpson isn't pop. Jamey Johnson isn't pop. Chris Stapleton isn't pop. All those guys are big right now and weren't cooked up in some studio down on Music Row.

As 518 mentioned Cage the Elephant grew out of little old BG. There's still good music. You need to look in our Music thread over here. Always some good stuff.

Not sure why you say that. You're way off.

I've never like top 40 or pop music whatever you want to call it. So, I'm railing against the Clear Channel cookie cutter model. In other words what's on radio sucks. I know there is still good music. Just a lot of junk out there too.

(08-07-2017 01:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 12:56 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  It's no surprise who the haters are in this thread.

Lofl

Surprised to see you not be able to discern the difference between honest observation and "hating" a term favored by many younger Western fans.

I would be just as unimpressed if he were using those buzzwords/coach speak about MT.

Calling beed young!!!! That's a new one

(08-07-2017 04:58 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 12:56 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  It's no surprise who the haters are in this thread.

Lofl

Surprised to see you not be able to discern the difference between honest observation and "hating" a term favored by many younger Western fans.

I would be just as unimpressed if he were using those buzzwords/coach speak about MT.

Calling beed young!!!! That's a new one

Hey! Beed don't have a single grey hair on his head!

(08-07-2017 04:58 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 01:08 PM)MTPiKapp Wrote:  

(08-07-2017 12:56 PM)dahbeed Wrote:  It's no surprise who the haters are in this thread.

Lofl

Surprised to see you not be able to discern the difference between honest observation and "hating" a term favored by many younger Western fans.

I would be just as unimpressed if he were using those buzzwords/coach speak about MT.

Calling beed young!!!! That's a new one

Your poor reading comprehension rears its head again.

You pegged me for a 55 year old George Straight fan despite my acknowledging Big Boi played a postgame concert when I was an undergrad.

And I pointed out that "haters" is a term favored by younger fans and I was surprised to see beed using it, I would think that would be enough context to deduce that I know that beed is not a young man.

Need is the most hip retired, bald, angry old man on here. Everybody should know that.

(08-08-2017 05:49 AM)Theflash Wrote:  Need is the most hip retired, bald, angry old man on here. Everybody should know that.

Need who?

Really enjoyed seeing Pearl Jam in Rupp last year, now that is a great band who still has it going, good music....Lot's of good music still out there...Who listens to local radio? I turned that **** off years ago, I have had Sirius for years now and love Alt Nation, Litihium, The Pulse, Beatles channel if I go old school and some Backspin when I want to go to my hip hop stage when I was 8-14...Never been able to get into country but my parents love Garth Brooks, he is not horrible just not really my cup of tea....

(08-07-2017 12:09 PM)Jack Bauer Wrote:  Mtpikapp is a 55 yo white dude who listens to either George straight or Johnny cash. Or he is just jealous someone famous talked about us. Salty much?

Listen Louis lite, the more that comes out of you hole, the more you start to morph into a 55 yo anus listening to Morris Day or Kidd Kreole. Salty much?

This can be brushed off as "meaningless" and "coach speak" and "not a big deal" but if anything, its added publicity for the program. Here are some sources outside of BG that have publicized it:

Uniswag (89k followers) tweeted about it: https://twitter.com/uniswag/status/894771907882622976
FootballScoop (113k followers) wrote an article:
https://twitter.com/footballscoop/status...2911697920
Louisville Courier-Journal wrote an article about it:
http://www.courier-journal.com/story/spo...um=twitter
WDRB (Louisville) ran a story about it on their broadcast:
http://www.wdrb.com/story/36080245/produ...ball-coach

Coach Sanford's video has 711 RTs and 1,020 Likes
The @BarstoolWestern share of Coach Adams' video has 1,040 RTs and 1,431 Likes

If you watch the video that @WKUFootball shared of the players watching it, they were definitely hyped up. I'd say it was successful, whether or not it was meaningless to DJ Khaled.

Being from South Florida DJ Kaled is a legend. Was just small time DJ for year down here for a long time than exploited in the last three years.
Good for him good for WKU.

1- Can't believe this thread has gone on for 6 pages and 2- I saw him being interviewed on CNBC maybe a month ago from the NYSE.

For the others on the board who know his music. Can you read his name once without hearing his voice in your head? I know I can't.

Yes I don't know him but I recognize he is a huge name in pop culture...The ones who are calling it not a big deal or not surprising MTSU fans...