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When does the NCAA rule on transfers take effect or did it pass at all? The one where players could transfer one time without sitting out if they had a 3.0 or higher GPA. I know I joked with JJ and Dave Twardzik that they needed to make sure everyone failed a couple of tests.

What’s the story on this kid Ashley James from Green Run HS. See where he had 48 points in a game against Lake Braddock HS yesterday. That’s impressive!

(12-29-2018 08:25 AM)mac Wrote:  What’s the story on this kid Ashley James from Green Run HS. See where he had 48 points in a game against Lake Braddock HS yesterday. That’s impressive!

According To Verbal Commits he only has three D1 offers:
NC A&T
Norfolk State
Hampton

https://www.verbalcommits.com/players/ashley-james

Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

(12-30-2018 02:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

Does your employer hire every person who wants to work at your place of employment?

(12-30-2018 11:24 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 02:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

Does your employer hire every person who wants to work at your place of employment?

Of course not. But since we want to use that analogy. If a engineer wants to work at our firm and we know that some of our engineers will be leaving within 4 years and he or she is a good enough engineer that or competitors are recruiting him or her it's only natural to want to know what it is they see or we don't see or they ignore and we don't.

Is it attitude? Cultural fit? Perceived lack of work ethic? They want a degree we don't offer? Could be many things. But when fans dont know those answers they fill it in with negative answers, confabulation.

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(12-30-2018 02:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

Decided to go look this kid Seabron up Big Blue. Wow. Offers and visits to Providence, Georgia, Minnesota, Temple, East Carolina, NORTH TEXAS, VCU, Oklahoma State, Southern Methodist, Virginia Tech.

https://basketballrecruiting.rivals.com/...p-showcase

(12-30-2018 02:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

This is a kid that hardly anyone wanted. He went to prep school and has improved. It happens. Put it this way, if he signed with us last year, many people would have complained on here that we beat out low majors for him. (Radfors, hampton, norfolk state)

Could they have offered and redshirted had they predicted his metoeric
Rise? Sure, but I have no clue if anyone saw it coming. There are guys locally that can score at will but that doesnt make them high major players. (Cam bacote, travis Fields)

What about NOW Gilesfan? Wonder why we aren't offering him NOW that he is doing so well? We must be on someone similar the coaches really want, is what I'm thinking.

(01-02-2019 11:11 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:49 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:46 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:15 AM)CalODUFan Wrote:  What is does it meant that AJ Oliver was "added to the roster?" Just eligible to practice or play?

Practice. If he wins the appeal, he could play at the beginning of next year. Otherwise, he's not eligible to compete in games until the end of the first semester next year.

Would we get 3 full years with him able to play, only 2 because he already RSed, or is that an additional matter for appeal?

What ODUCoach posted is correct...If he is granted his appeal he will be eligible 3 full years starting next year at the beginning of the season. If not he will have 2.5 years eligibility starting his second semester next year. It is a big deal... If he is cleared to play at the beginning of next year he will be part of the rotation from the start... if he comes in the end of December it will be a lot more difficult.

Responding to the comments in the Herd thread, but think it might deserve it's own attention here.

http://www.odusports.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=211785391

The transfer is old news, but I found the presser interesting - particularly this paragraph:

"Oliver II will have three seasons of eligibility remaining after playing his freshman season at Clemson in 2017-18 and redshirting in 2016-17."

So are they just super optimistic about his appeal being approved, or is it already done? Or is the release in error?

(12-30-2018 02:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

Do we not already have a 6-6 combo G in Jason Wade? Do we not have other needs? You're going to say Wade doesn't score like this kid. Well, he was pretty prolific in HS, where he wasn't the #1 option. And everyone this season is deferring to BJ and Caver. That's my take.

(01-02-2019 11:24 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 02:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

Do we not already have a 6-6 combo G in Jason Wade? Do we not have other needs? You're going to say Wade doesn't score like this kid. Well, he was pretty prolific in HS, where he wasn't the #1 option. And everyone this season is deferring to BJ and Caver. That's my take.

I'm just saying everyone ******* and moans about not getting local talent and when one expresses interest and then goes to a potential P5 or VCU and such it grows contempt among the fan base. The super bipolar, manic, fan base at that.

Maybe they knew about Oliver II and figured we had plenty of depth for a few years and focused on bigs? See my next reply in that chain because it could be just that, we already had enough combo guards. I was kind of defending our actions in a negative way.

(01-02-2019 11:16 AM)odu09 Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 11:11 AM)blewbyu Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:49 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:46 AM)ODUCoach Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 10:15 AM)CalODUFan Wrote:  What is does it meant that AJ Oliver was "added to the roster?" Just eligible to practice or play?

Practice. If he wins the appeal, he could play at the beginning of next year. Otherwise, he's not eligible to compete in games until the end of the first semester next year.

Would we get 3 full years with him able to play, only 2 because he already RSed, or is that an additional matter for appeal?

What ODUCoach posted is correct...If he is granted his appeal he will be eligible 3 full years starting next year at the beginning of the season. If not he will have 2.5 years eligibility starting his second semester next year. It is a big deal... If he is cleared to play at the beginning of next year he will be part of the rotation from the start... if he comes in the end of December it will be a lot more difficult.

Responding to the comments in the Herd thread, but think it might deserve it's own attention here.

http://www.odusports.com/ViewArticle.dbm...=211785391

The transfer is old news, but I found the presser interesting - particularly this paragraph:

"Oliver II will have three seasons of eligibility remaining after playing his freshman season at Clemson in 2017-18 and redshirting in 2016-17."

So are they just super optimistic about his appeal being approved, or is it already done? Or is the release in error?

Not in the know on this at all, but I interpret it as 3 years of eligibility; meaning he will be a sophomore next year; but due to his transfer, he may not be available until the 2nd semester.

(01-02-2019 11:29 AM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(01-02-2019 11:24 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 02:16 PM)bit_9 Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:33 AM)Mr.BigBlue Wrote:  

(12-30-2018 08:04 AM)mac Wrote:  Saw where Radford was looking at this kid. Coach, Mr Blue or any of you others who follow HS ball, what’s the deal. I mean 48 points plus I see he’s had other games with large output. Is it grades, too small, what’s the deal with the lack of interest? 48 points, that sounds like Petey Sessioms HS numbers!

Don't know this kid. We need a 6-2 PG so I wonder what is the issue. I trust JJ and the staff to evaluate PGs that fit into the system. However, I am still trying to understand how we never offered Dereon Seabron 6-6 Combo guard who was at Lake Taylor and wanted to come to ODU. He has now blown up. Many P5 programs have offered and now VCU has offered him. Seabron is a player.

That's the kind of stuff that just totally a head scratcher and fuels contempt when we have a bad game or season. You look at a kid like that and why on earth didn't we offer him in our own backyard if he wanted to go here? I'd love to hear the story on that myself.

Do we not already have a 6-6 combo G in Jason Wade? Do we not have other needs? You're going to say Wade doesn't score like this kid. Well, he was pretty prolific in HS, where he wasn't the #1 option. And everyone this season is deferring to BJ and Caver. That's my take.

I'm just saying everyone ******* and moans about not getting local talent and when one expresses interest and then goes to a potential P5 or VCU and such it grows contempt among the fan base. The super bipolar, manic, fan base at that.

Maybe they knew about Oliver II and figured we had plenty of depth for a few years and focused on bigs? See my next reply in that chain because it could be just that, we already had enough combo guards. I was kind of defending our actions in a negative way.

As of next year, we will have:

Kitchart- 2 years
Wade- 3 years
Green- 2 years
Godwin-2 years
Oliver- 2.5-3 years

Wing is a spot we do have significant depth. I think point guard is a major focus.

I may be out in leftfield on this, but I think our future PG is on the team. Call me crazy but I think Wade is perfectly capable of running the show. He still needs some more seasoning, but he handles the rock pretty well for a freshman.

(01-02-2019 01:15 PM)oduhoops71 Wrote:  I may be out in leftfield on this, but I think our future PG is on the team. Call me crazy but I think Wade is perfectly capable of running the show. He still needs some more seasoning, but he handles the rock pretty well for a freshman.

Kithcart is good too, he just needs to get out of the doghouse.

(01-02-2019 01:15 PM)oduhoops71 Wrote:  I may be out in leftfield on this, but I think our future PG is on the team. Call me crazy but I think Wade is perfectly capable of running the show. He still needs some more seasoning, but he handles the rock pretty well for a freshman.

I'm with you there. He's shown he can handle the ball pretty well but I don't see in him what I saw in Caver right out the gate with his vision of the court. Maybe he just hasn't had that opportunity yet but he def doesn't lack skill.

Wade is definetly going to be special, just not sure I see him at point.