(01-07-2021 01:44 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:33 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 03:06 PM)gohogs14 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Man Arkansas really didn't attempt to play anybody did they.

He shoots a high percentage from 3...But I would need to see what he can do against a team with a pulse.

Had games against Louisville, Oklahoma and @ Tulsa cancelled due to COVID.

Vanover can hit the three and his size can alter shots but he really struggles against the pick and roll and with bigs who are stronger and more physical. Missouri's thick center abused him, he's just so thin. But he can be a decent niche player, just not a traditional post player. Fans are a little hard on him because he plays more like a guard when they expect a guy that tall to dunk on everyone.

Fulkerson got the better of him last night, and he was pushed around like a b1tch by Missouri's bigs.

Not saying he’s the next Shaq, but he still finished with 12/7 last night. He’d be our best big man.

Better than DeAndre?

I need to see DeAndre a few more games.

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 04:54 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I wonder what would have been, if Penny and the Memphis AAU scene would have fed players to Memphis, while Tubby was here, as opposed to pushing them elsewhere, because Tubby refused to kiss their a$$? It's moot now, but have always wondered about that.

You’d think Tubby could have hired Penny as an assistant and future coach to be. Then that pipeline would have been realized and Tubs could have helped Hardaway come up to speed coaching-wise. Not sure if that sort of thing was ever pushed or if Penny would have been open to that, but it seems like that could have been a good transition.

Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

(01-07-2021 01:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 03:06 PM)gohogs14 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:07 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Thread revival..

Dude is actually pretty good for Arkansas...

Man Arkansas really didn't attempt to play anybody did they.

He shoots a high percentage from 3...But I would need to see what he can do against a team with a pulse.

Had games against Louisville, Oklahoma and @ Tulsa cancelled due to COVID.

Vanover can hit the three and his size can alter shots but he really struggles against the pick and roll and with bigs who are stronger and more physical. Missouri's thick center abused him, he's just so thin. But he can be a decent niche player, just not a traditional post player. Fans are a little hard on him because he plays more like a guard when they expect a guy that tall to dunk on everyone.

Fulkerson got the better of him last night, and he was pushed around like a b1tch by Missouri's bigs.

I watched the 2nd half last night. Thought he actually looked pretty good. Awkward as heck, but a decent college bb player - a big with good hands & touch.

(01-07-2021 04:28 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 03:06 PM)gohogs14 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:07 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Thread revival..

Dude is actually pretty good for Arkansas...

Man Arkansas really didn't attempt to play anybody did they.

He shoots a high percentage from 3...But I would need to see what he can do against a team with a pulse.

Had games against Louisville, Oklahoma and @ Tulsa cancelled due to COVID.

Vanover can hit the three and his size can alter shots but he really struggles against the pick and roll and with bigs who are stronger and more physical. Missouri's thick center abused him, he's just so thin. But he can be a decent niche player, just not a traditional post player. Fans are a little hard on him because he plays more like a guard when they expect a guy that tall to dunk on everyone.

Fulkerson got the better of him last night, and he was pushed around like a b1tch by Missouri's bigs.

I watched the 2nd half last night. Thought he actually looked pretty good. Awkward as heck, but a decent college bb player - a big with good hands & touch.

I thought the same. Awkward, but a serviceable player. He’s better than I thought he’d be.

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 04:54 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I wonder what would have been, if Penny and the Memphis AAU scene would have fed players to Memphis, while Tubby was here, as opposed to pushing them elsewhere, because Tubby refused to kiss their a$$? It's moot now, but have always wondered about that.

You’d think Tubby could have hired Penny as an assistant and future coach to be. Then that pipeline would have been realized and Tubs could have helped Hardaway come up to speed coaching-wise. Not sure if that sort of thing was ever pushed or if Penny would have been open to that, but it seems like that could have been a good transition.

Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

(01-07-2021 09:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 04:54 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I wonder what would have been, if Penny and the Memphis AAU scene would have fed players to Memphis, while Tubby was here, as opposed to pushing them elsewhere, because Tubby refused to kiss their a$$? It's moot now, but have always wondered about that.

You’d think Tubby could have hired Penny as an assistant and future coach to be. Then that pipeline would have been realized and Tubs could have helped Hardaway come up to speed coaching-wise. Not sure if that sort of thing was ever pushed or if Penny would have been open to that, but it seems like that could have been a good transition.

Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

I don't think Penny has issues with knowledge of the game or even in game coaching.

He needs help in practice with instruction...He essentially admits it every time he says they are doing what he told them

(01-07-2021 10:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 09:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  You’d think Tubby could have hired Penny as an assistant and future coach to be. Then that pipeline would have been realized and Tubs could have helped Hardaway come up to speed coaching-wise. Not sure if that sort of thing was ever pushed or if Penny would have been open to that, but it seems like that could have been a good transition.

Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

I don't think Penny has issues with knowledge of the game or even in game coaching.

He needs help in practice with instruction...He essentially admits it every time he says they are doing what he told them

I rarely see any effective in game coaching.

It’s just an awful offense. An offensive offense. Whatever you want to call it. Look at most of the better coaches out there, most weren’t great (or even good) players. He needs help.

(01-08-2021 03:31 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 09:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

I don't think Penny has issues with knowledge of the game or even in game coaching.

He needs help in practice with instruction...He essentially admits it every time he says they are doing what he told them

I rarely see any effective in game coaching.

It’s just an awful offense. An offensive offense. Whatever you want to call it. Look at most of the better coaches out there, most weren’t great (or even good) players. He needs help.

The adjustments they make on D is in-game coaching.
The spurts of full-court press inserted here and there is in-game coaching.
And we have a pretty high success rate with inbounds plays coming out of timeouts, that's in-game coaching.
So there are certainly some good aspects.

There are other things like not calling timeouts, taking it easy on refs, and substitution patterns that are in-game coaching headscratchers.

(01-07-2021 01:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 03:06 PM)gohogs14 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:07 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Thread revival..

Dude is actually pretty good for Arkansas...

Man Arkansas really didn't attempt to play anybody did they.

He shoots a high percentage from 3...But I would need to see what he can do against a team with a pulse.

Had games against Louisville, Oklahoma and @ Tulsa cancelled due to COVID.

Vanover can hit the three and his size can alter shots but he really struggles against the pick and roll and with bigs who are stronger and more physical. Missouri's thick center abused him, he's just so thin. But he can be a decent niche player, just not a traditional post player. Fans are a little hard on him because he plays more like a guard when they expect a guy that tall to dunk on everyone.

Fulkerson got the better of him last night, and he was pushed around like a b1tch by Missouri's bigs.

The rim got the better of Fulkerson there for one minute.
Refs called a foul and blew the whistle. Big Fulk came flying in and was going to make a statement after the whistle. Jumped up for a tomahawk putback slam. No one was guarding him - you know, cause the whistle had stopped play. He came up a couple inches short and the front of the rim stopped him in mid-air. He crumbled to the ground and came up limping.
Turned out it wasn't serious because he came back in a few minutes later.
Hilarious to see.

(01-08-2021 11:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  

(01-08-2021 03:31 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 09:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  ...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

I don't think Penny has issues with knowledge of the game or even in game coaching.

He needs help in practice with instruction...He essentially admits it every time he says they are doing what he told them

I rarely see any effective in game coaching.

It’s just an awful offense. An offensive offense. Whatever you want to call it. Look at most of the better coaches out there, most weren’t great (or even good) players. He needs help.

The adjustments they make on D is in-game coaching.
The spurts of full-court press inserted here and there is in-game coaching.
And we have a pretty high success rate with inbounds plays coming out of timeouts, that's in-game coaching.
So there are certainly some good aspects.

There are other things like not calling timeouts, taking it easy on refs, and substitution patterns that are in-game coaching headscratchers.

These things are done in Middle School. Not really earth shattering.

(01-07-2021 09:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 04:54 PM)oruvoice Wrote:  I wonder what would have been, if Penny and the Memphis AAU scene would have fed players to Memphis, while Tubby was here, as opposed to pushing them elsewhere, because Tubby refused to kiss their a$$? It's moot now, but have always wondered about that.

You’d think Tubby could have hired Penny as an assistant and future coach to be. Then that pipeline would have been realized and Tubs could have helped Hardaway come up to speed coaching-wise. Not sure if that sort of thing was ever pushed or if Penny would have been open to that, but it seems like that could have been a good transition.

Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

So, you are suggesting that (after 40 years)-of being in the game of BB--that we don't have a head coach that knows how to install a coherent offense---or don't know when to call a T O--or press--or go to 2-1-2--or a 2-2-1--or a 1-2-2---or triangle in 1---or pick in roll ETC ETC ETC.

If that's the case Penny should be terminated ----and has the IQ of .....well STAMMERS !!! J/K STAMMERS----just a little payback !

(01-08-2021 04:27 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 09:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 09:18 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  You’d think Tubby could have hired Penny as an assistant and future coach to be. Then that pipeline would have been realized and Tubs could have helped Hardaway come up to speed coaching-wise. Not sure if that sort of thing was ever pushed or if Penny would have been open to that, but it seems like that could have been a good transition.

Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

So, you are suggesting that (after 40 years)-of being in the game of BB--that we don't have a head coach that knows how to install a coherent offense---or don't know when to call a T O--or press--or go to 2-1-2--or a 2-2-1--or a 1-2-2---or triangle in 1---or pick in roll ETC ETC ETC.

If that's the case Penny should be terminated ----and has the IQ of .....well STAMMERS !!! J/K STAMMERS----just a little payback !

Well, why haven’t we seen it in the last 2+ years?

Yes, I’m saying he doesn’t know how to install a coherent offense. Get a good assistant!

(01-08-2021 03:31 AM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:34 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 09:28 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 02:46 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 10:50 AM)oruvoice Wrote:  Yeah. In hindsight, that would have been the ideal situation.

To jsw3ent's point...he could have learned a lot. Knowing the game as a player and being a head coach is a different animal. He could have learned a lot. But you are correct, he probably wasn't going to be an assistant and learn under Tubby.

...so for 40 years as a player --you are saying Penny shouldn't / couldn't have learned anything from his say dozens of coaches .

So in any situation --Penny because he was just a player--shouldn't be able to recall what all his previous coaches might do in said situation .

Commentators/announcers constantly state --that a said player-- IS A COACH ON THE FLOOR

Announcers/commentators also say---ITS A SIMPLE GAME--ITS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE. I will add EVEN HS coaches know as much about the game of BB than ANY college coach. There are only so many O/D sets- or presses . Heck the fans even yell --block out/press/zone/ or for a TO.

If Penny doesn't know FULLY the game of BB by now----he should change professions Should he not ask himself when a team is on a 10 run--HEY I remember coach FINCH--used to call a TO...ETC ETC ETC on every situation . It usually only takes most people not to touch a hot stove--just once.

I ask---is there anyone on this earth that knows more about the game of BB than Penny ? No there isn't . Saying there is a difference between player and coach---that the new coach needs experience as a coach---even though he has been around different coaches in EVERY SITUATION---by osmosis anyone in the game of BB ought to learn after say 1-40 years all there is to know.

Not all great players make great coaches. Sometimes great coaches are those that never saw a college court. He’s a great face of the program and a great recruiter. I think he just needs a highly seasoned assistant that can establish a coherent offense. A detail oriented guy. We also can’t make in-game adjustments. This assistant could be very helpful in this area too..

I don't think Penny has issues with knowledge of the game or even in game coaching.

He needs help in practice with instruction...He essentially admits it every time he says they are doing what he told them

I rarely see any effective in game coaching.

It’s just an awful offense. An offensive offense. Whatever you want to call it. Look at most of the better coaches out there, most weren’t great (or even good) players. He needs help.

The "Offense" they run is just poorly designed or poorly taught...

You don't fix that in game...you fix that at practice.

(01-07-2021 01:33 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  

(01-07-2021 01:12 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  

(01-06-2021 03:06 PM)gohogs14 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(12-30-2020 08:07 PM)memtiger1987 Wrote:  Thread revival..

Dude is actually pretty good for Arkansas...

Man Arkansas really didn't attempt to play anybody did they.

He shoots a high percentage from 3...But I would need to see what he can do against a team with a pulse.

Had games against Louisville, Oklahoma and @ Tulsa cancelled due to COVID.

Vanover can hit the three and his size can alter shots but he really struggles against the pick and roll and with bigs who are stronger and more physical. Missouri's thick center abused him, he's just so thin. But he can be a decent niche player, just not a traditional post player. Fans are a little hard on him because he plays more like a guard when they expect a guy that tall to dunk on everyone.

Fulkerson got the better of him last night, and he was pushed around like a b1tch by Missouri's bigs.

Not saying he’s the next Shaq, but he still finished with 12/7 last night. He’d be our best big man.

Yeah...I have to disagree here.

Don't think he would be able to play for Penny...Because Penny has a defensive philosophy that requires his bigs to be able to switch...And he seems fairly married to it.

When bigs can switch they get to the NBA more readily

(01-08-2021 04:50 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Larry Brown

I think most of us really wanted Larry Brown. He could have really helped Penny. But there are other, less controversial, coaches out there.

It’s a pretty easy fix. We’ve got a head coach that has name recognition and can really recruit. That’s the hard part. He just needs a strong assistant that can coach an offense. These guys are a dime a dozen, and many are unemployed (or under employed) because they couldn’t recruit.

As Pastner might say, “A new assistant can help with the Xs and Os, but Penny can get the Jimmies and Joe’s”. Ok, I’m going to give myself a self imposed 24 hour ban for making that statement... lol

Averaged 4 and 2 for Arkansas in limited time. Shot 7.7% from three.

Hard pass

(04-06-2022 10:14 AM)salukiblue Wrote:  Averaged 4 and 2 for Arkansas in limited time. Shot 7.7% from three.

I do not think he was even logging minutes by the end of the season.