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(08-09-2017 06:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
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(08-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Conner, unlike Fall, is a good three point shooter. We could use him this year since our team is bereft of proven outside shooters.

If I ever coached a 7'4 dude and he wanted to shoot threes, I would instruct the closest player to him to rack him the first time he took a shot.

Conner is not noted for his physical dominance in the paint. The articles I read cite his shooting as his main asset.

He also doesn't look to have the kind of frame that'll add a lot of meat. Opposite from Tacko Fall's situation.
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(08-09-2017 07:19 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:32 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Conner, unlike Fall, is a good three point shooter. We could use him this year since our team is bereft of proven outside shooters.

If I ever coached a 7'4 dude and he wanted to shoot threes, I would instruct the closest player to him to rack him the first time he took a shot.

Conner is not noted for his physical dominance in the paint. The articles I read cite his shooting as his main asset.

He also doesn't look to have the kind of frame that'll add a lot of meat. Opposite from Tacko Fall's situation.

I imagine if he eats Central BBQ each day for four years he will fill out.
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(08-09-2017 06:50 AM)Hernando Hills Tiger Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:18 AM)Smith Wrote:  I remember what Dana Kirk said about Todd Mundt; "you can't teach 7-foot". Todd went on to have a nice NBA career.

Must have been a long season.



Todd Mundt (born May 17, 1970 in Iowa City, Iowa) is a retired American professional National Basketball Association player. He played college basketball at Delta State University and University of Memphis. He was a 7'0" center.

In 1995-96, Mundt played for the Boston Celtics and Atlanta Hawks.

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(08-09-2017 07:19 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:32 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Conner, unlike Fall, is a good three point shooter. We could use him this year since our team is bereft of proven outside shooters.

If I ever coached a 7'4 dude and he wanted to shoot threes, I would instruct the closest player to him to rack him the first time he took a shot.

Conner is not noted for his physical dominance in the paint. The articles I read cite his shooting as his main asset.

He also doesn't look to have the kind of frame that'll add a lot of meat. Opposite from Tacko Fall's situation.

Did you see any video of Taco when he signed with UCF? He looked like he might break just catching a pass. The one thing he had going for him then was reasonable mobility. UCF has done a pretty good job with him to the point he came very close to declaring for the draft after last season. And his impact at UCF was amazing. Without him UCF was a .500 program, with him they were almost a tourney team & competitive in most of their games. Like Kirk said, you can't teach height.
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(08-09-2017 08:52 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 07:19 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:32 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Conner, unlike Fall, is a good three point shooter. We could use him this year since our team is bereft of proven outside shooters.

If I ever coached a 7'4 dude and he wanted to shoot threes, I would instruct the closest player to him to rack him the first time he took a shot.

Conner is not noted for his physical dominance in the paint. The articles I read cite his shooting as his main asset.

He also doesn't look to have the kind of frame that'll add a lot of meat. Opposite from Tacko Fall's situation.

Did you see any video of Taco when he signed with UCF? He looked like he might break just catching a pass. The one thing he had going for him then was reasonable mobility. UCF has done a pretty good job with him to the point he came very close to declaring for the draft after last season. And his impact at UCF was amazing. Without him UCF was a .500 program, with him they were almost a tourney team & competitive in most of their games. Like Kirk said, you can't teach height.

Fall is a defensive nightmare, in college. Not sure his game translates the NBA where he will have to track bigs who can actually shoot from the perimeter and be involved in pick and roll defense.

Still, watching college kids, even a pretty polished big like Dedric, try to post him was laughable.
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Ok on tacko, then. Was not aware of his initial fragility. Looking at Conner, tho, he's going to have trouble putting in weight so he can be effective inside
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(08-09-2017 08:52 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 07:19 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:32 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Conner, unlike Fall, is a good three point shooter. We could use him this year since our team is bereft of proven outside shooters.

If I ever coached a 7'4 dude and he wanted to shoot threes, I would instruct the closest player to him to rack him the first time he took a shot.

Conner is not noted for his physical dominance in the paint. The articles I read cite his shooting as his main asset.

He also doesn't look to have the kind of frame that'll add a lot of meat. Opposite from Tacko Fall's situation.

Did you see any video of Taco when he signed with UCF? He looked like he might break just catching a pass. The one thing he had going for him then was reasonable mobility. UCF has done a pretty good job with him to the point he came very close to declaring for the draft after last season. And his impact at UCF was amazing. Without him UCF was a .500 program, with him they were almost a tourney team & competitive in most of their games. Like Kirk said, you can't teach height.

He wasn't THAT frail.

This is him in AAU:

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If anything, he is slow afoot and lacks athleticism. Had a decent frame even in hs.



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Conner will be our Tacko.
Height is a good thing.
Teavh him how to swat the ball near the rim, and draw fouls.
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(08-09-2017 08:52 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 07:19 AM)holyterror Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 06:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 09:32 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(08-08-2017 05:27 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Conner, unlike Fall, is a good three point shooter. We could use him this year since our team is bereft of proven outside shooters.

If I ever coached a 7'4 dude and he wanted to shoot threes, I would instruct the closest player to him to rack him the first time he took a shot.

Conner is not noted for his physical dominance in the paint. The articles I read cite his shooting as his main asset.

He also doesn't look to have the kind of frame that'll add a lot of meat. Opposite from Tacko Fall's situation.

Did you see any video of Taco when he signed with UCF? He looked like he might break just catching a pass. The one thing he had going for him then was reasonable mobility. UCF has done a pretty good job with him to the point he came very close to declaring for the draft after last season. And his impact at UCF was amazing. Without him UCF was a .500 program, with him they were almost a tourney team & competitive in most of their games. Like Kirk said, you can't teach height.

I thought it was painful to watch someone with his height have almost 0 athletic ability his freshman year. Fortunately for him, being 6" taller than the next guy is about all the athletic ability he needs in college. I don't see him performing well past college unless he can gain about 50 or more lbs. and learn to dribble halfway decent. His post moves are almost absent, they just lob it close and he tips them in.
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(08-04-2017 09:47 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  Will attend Findlay Prep for his senior year.

Good info. Will get him a lot more exposure. Not sure it will be good for us.

Unless he improves his weaknesses it really doesn't matter. He also isn't option #1.

I think he very well could be option #1 for his position.
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.
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(08-09-2017 05:15 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(08-07-2017 05:09 PM)M1T4 Wrote:  
(08-06-2017 10:18 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(08-04-2017 09:47 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  Will attend Findlay Prep for his senior year.

Good info. Will get him a lot more exposure. Not sure it will be good for us.

Unless he improves his weaknesses it really doesn't matter. He also isn't option #1.

I think he very well could be option #1 for his position.

Naw he isn't option #1 but I think he is high enough on there board they would take him if he decided to commit though
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(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!
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(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!

They have an on campus arena don't they?
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(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!

Who or what kept us from scoring...just wondering I'm not saying it was Tako, but he must've looked kind of intimidating...did he block a couple of our inside attempts...or did the refs call fouls that upset us....

no biggie. I was just bemused at the way people criticize other players.
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(08-10-2017 09:19 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!

Taco changes everything, the way you play defense, the offensive sets you run, how aggressive you are at pushing the ball up the floor... He may have no points but he requires you to help his defender. He may have no blocks but keep your team from driving.

And that kind of size cannot be simulated in practice so it causes problems for the opposition. At worst someone who is that tall makes the other team throw in a wrinkle or two, at worst he disrupts everything the opposition tries to do.

Its not like he's 6'11.... he's at least 7'3, one of the tallest guys in the country.
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(08-10-2017 02:16 PM)Oman Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 09:19 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!

Taco changes everything, the way you play defense, the offensive sets you run, how aggressive you are at pushing the ball up the floor... He may have no points but he requires you to help his defender. He may have no blocks but keep your team from driving.

And that kind of size cannot be simulated in practice so it causes problems for the opposition. At worst someone who is that tall makes the other team throw in a wrinkle or two, at worst he disrupts everything the opposition tries to do.

Its not like he's 6'11.... he's at least 7'3, one of the tallest guys in the country.

Agree 100%. Doesn't always show up in a box score, but he dominates the game.
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(08-10-2017 02:16 PM)Oman Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 09:19 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!

Taco changes everything, the way you play defense, the offensive sets you run, how aggressive you are at pushing the ball up the floor... He may have no points but he requires you to help his defender. He may have no blocks but keep your team from driving.

And that kind of size cannot be simulated in practice so it causes problems for the opposition. At worst someone who is that tall makes the other team throw in a wrinkle or two, at worst he disrupts everything the opposition tries to do.

Its not like he's 6'11.... he's at least 7'3, one of the tallest guys in the country.

Taco is 7'6. And he keeps his ass in the paint.

7'3 is really tall, but 7'6 is other worldly.
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(08-10-2017 03:07 PM)salukiblue Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 02:16 PM)Oman Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 09:19 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!

Taco changes everything, the way you play defense, the offensive sets you run, how aggressive you are at pushing the ball up the floor... He may have no points but he requires you to help his defender. He may have no blocks but keep your team from driving.

And that kind of size cannot be simulated in practice so it causes problems for the opposition. At worst someone who is that tall makes the other team throw in a wrinkle or two, at worst he disrupts everything the opposition tries to do.

Its not like he's 6'11.... he's at least 7'3, one of the tallest guys in the country.

Taco is 7'6. And he keeps his ass in the paint.

7'3 is really tall, but 7'6 is other worldly.

Fall has been reported among the top 40 tallest people in the entire world.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/sports/uc...story.html
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(08-10-2017 02:16 PM)Oman Wrote:  
(08-10-2017 09:19 AM)TigerFan38134 Wrote:  
(08-09-2017 08:02 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  72-57
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I don't think we have room to poo poo Tacko.

I was front row for that 72-57 beatdown at UCF. Tacko helped, but Williams going 5-8 from 3 was what killed us. Between him and Taylor they couldn't miss from behind the arc. I talked to a few UCF fans on the way out and they all mentioned how miraculously well they shot from long range. Minus a few remarks from the guy behind us, all the fans AFTER the game were very nice. Will be going again this year hopefully!

Taco changes everything, the way you play defense, the offensive sets you run, how aggressive you are at pushing the ball up the floor... He may have no points but he requires you to help his defender. He may have no blocks but keep your team from driving.

And that kind of size cannot be simulated in practice so it causes problems for the opposition. At worst someone who is that tall makes the other team throw in a wrinkle or two, at worst he disrupts everything the opposition tries to do.

Its not like he's 6'11.... he's at least 7'3, one of the tallest guys in the country.

Taco is easy to take out of the game and you don't need dominant big guys to do it.

You need a few shooters and a Mobile big...If Crawford, Martin and KJ could consitently hit a 3 Taco would have had to come out of the game because Dedric would have killed him. Taco is not Mobile so make him come to the FT line then it is likely two points or a foul if the wings of the 2-3 have to stay home
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