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(07-19-2017 08:43 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(07-19-2017 08:10 AM)94Hawk Wrote:  Losing the guy to K State hurts but I'd play Cacok at the 5 and run like crazy. It has worked for the past 3 years.

In CAA games, it's worked terrifically. But it's also system that didn't quite work at the next level. Cacok got swallowed up in the post against both Duke and UVA. The minute Gettys, a True Center, got into foul trouble and had to come out, we got exposed there (as much as people complained about him, we had a halftime lead over Duke with him getting serious minutes). And our defensive efficiency wasn't great in either contest.
Wow, pretty much my very complaint with Keatts teams, and i got jumped on for it here by many, including you if i'm not mistaken! Obviously, i agree b04-rock
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I wouldn't say that Cacok was swallowed up in the post, Cacok had little help inside due to style of play and overall lack of top flight D-they won because they were incredibly gifted and the coach let them go (no problem with that). Devonte was killing Salt out there for UVa. The reason UVa won is because UNCW didn't play a lick of defense and that kid off the bench went nuts. UNCW really should have won that game. And I'm not necessarily blaming the system either. It was a case that Chris Flemmings had to play the 4 (actually defended pretty well btw for his size/great all around player) instead of 3 due to having to get Bryce out there at 3 with a knock down guy at 2.

Getting to this year....does it matter who you call what in the post? You are who you guard. We will see. Cacok can guard a 4 or 5. And, is much more capable of making plays than you think. Think CAA final when he drove the baseline and dished to a cutting Bryce. If they don't get injured, they will win games and compete okay in the top 4 or top 5 provided they defend and can get Fornes, Cacok and 1 or 2 more guys (thinking Talley for sure) than can get double figures. Scoring will be the challenge this year. The following year should be rock and roll again perhaps.
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To me the ideal team is one that doesn't matter who starts, but who finishes. If we play fast like coach McGrath says, it won't matter. There will be plenty of playing time for those that don't start. I also like looking at how we match up against our opponents and what fives play best together. We don't won't to miss a beat when we do sub. Starting is more of an ego thing. And some players are better at subbing in than others. I'm sure that will be a factor as long as we are deep enough.
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(07-20-2017 10:30 PM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  I wouldn't say that Cacok was swallowed up in the post, Cacok had little help inside due to style of play and overall lack of top flight D-they won because they were incredibly gifted and the coach let them go (no problem with that). Devonte was killing Salt out there for UVa. The reason UVa won is because UNCW didn't play a lick of defense and that kid off the bench went nuts. UNCW really should have won that game. And I'm not necessarily blaming the system either. It was a case that Chris Flemmings had to play the 4 (actually defended pretty well btw for his size/great all around player) instead of 3 due to having to get Bryce out there at 3 with a knock down guy at 2.

Getting to this year....does it matter who you call what in the post? You are who you guard. We will see. Cacok can guard a 4 or 5. And, is much more capable of making plays than you think. Think CAA final when he drove the baseline and dished to a cutting Bryce. If they don't get injured, they will win games and compete okay in the top 4 or top 5 provided they defend and can get Fornes, Cacok and 1 or 2 more guys (thinking Talley for sure) than can get double figures. Scoring will be the challenge this year. The following year should be rock and roll again perhaps.

They lost because UVa was better than them in the backcourt. Perrantes beat them like a drum off the dribble at will. Just a better player then anything UNCW had.
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(07-24-2017 02:48 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  They lost because UVa was better than them in the backcourt. Perrantes beat them like a drum off the dribble at will. Just a better player then anything UNCW had.

Shouldn't you be posting hot takes like these at PackPride.com?
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(07-24-2017 02:48 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  They lost because UVa was better than them in the backcourt. Perrantes beat them like a drum off the dribble at will. Just a better player then anything UNCW had.

Tony Bennett went in with a game plan for UVa, and Keatts went in with one for UNCW. Keatts's plan was better. Then Bennett threw out his plan and improvised a strategy and lineup that they literally had never practiced before. Keatts - who apparently never heard of this thing they call "zone defense" - stuck with "Plan A", and UNCW lost.

Okay , Coach Mullet, had you been Keatts how would you have adjusted your game plan when Perrantes 'beat them like a drum of the dribble'?
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(07-24-2017 06:58 PM)70shawk Wrote:  
(07-24-2017 02:48 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  They lost because UVa was better than them in the backcourt. Perrantes beat them like a drum off the dribble at will. Just a better player then anything UNCW had.

Tony Bennett went in with a game plan for UVa, and Keatts went in with one for UNCW. Keatts's plan was better. Then Bennett threw out his plan and improvised a strategy and lineup that they literally had never practiced before. Keatts - who apparently never heard of this thing they call "zone defense" - stuck with "Plan A", and UNCW lost.

Okay , Coach Mullet, had you been Keatts how would you have adjusted your game plan when Perrantes 'beat them like a drum of the dribble'?
Keatts would not play zone even if he knew it would win the game for him-stubborn ass man! UNCW made some unreal shots to get ahead but it's really hard to hit 35 footer all game . Bryan was also a disaster waiting to happen and he did.
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(07-24-2017 02:51 PM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  
(07-24-2017 02:48 PM)jumpinmullet Wrote:  They lost because UVa was better than them in the backcourt. Perrantes beat them like a drum off the dribble at will. Just a better player then anything UNCW had.

Shouldn't you be posting hot takes like these at PackPride.com?

I had you blocked-maybe I need to do that again .
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UNCW was up by 18 or 20 points in that game. It's not suprising to me when Cacok is dunking all over you and you have knock down 3 ball artists. C'mon Jumpin, I love reading your takes 99% of the time, but that was a bit harsh. I do agree that they should have mixed in some zone looks and marked the guy with the man bun and Perentes! The overall D wasn't on point in that game.
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(07-26-2017 07:45 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  The overall D wasn't on point in that game.

The overall Halfcourt D wasn't on point all year. Many of us said it would bite us in the arse all year, and it did! You can out athletic mid majors with a full court press. That doesn't work against high majors, it just doesn't at least not with the level of guys we typically get. Unfortunately i agree with Mullet in the fact that he had Zero ability to adjust to his game plan. We saw that with Chuck all year. But, he's gone now, he's busy up in Raleigh recruiting our guys.
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You know guys, I can sit in my recliner and find fault with any coach in the country. Including coach K and any other successful program. All I know is that Keatts brought back a winning tradition and respect. I'll take that. Now, I refuse to look back. I'm looking forward towards continued success. Even if I was not happy with who we chose to replace Keatts, I have always been about supporting a new coach and giving them a chance to make things good. I also refuse to be any part of a problem. I will look for the right solution first before I give up on what a new program might bring in. Just because I don't like the way it is run. I'll take the bottom line, which is success.
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(07-26-2017 11:39 AM)SEA33HAWK Wrote:  You know guys, I can sit in my recliner and find fault with any coach in the country. Including coach K and any other successful program. All I know is that Keatts brought back a winning tradition and respect. I'll take that. Now, I refuse to look back. I'm looking forward towards continued success. Even if I was not happy with who we chose to replace Keatts, I have always been about supporting a new coach and giving them a chance to make things good. I also refuse to be any part of a problem. I will look for the right solution first before I give up on what a new program might bring in. Just because I don't like the way it is run. I'll take the bottom line, which is success.

I didn't like the hire either, but, so far so good IMO. Let's see how it plays out on the court. As for the other guy, i appreciate most of what he did here, but that was ruined by how he left. Just MO.
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If we would have beat VA, that would have just delayed Keatts from becoming a millionaire! Just saying!
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(07-26-2017 01:12 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  If we would have beat VA, that would have just delayed Keatts from becoming a millionaire! Just saying!

And we'd probably still have ended up with the same coach. And so far, it's worked out pretty well. Time to let that debate die. He moved on. He took Bryce. Okay. It's not about whining and throwing useless fits about it. It's about how we move on to support our team and program. I don't care if we suited up a team full of D3 walk ons. I'm a Seahawk for life and will stand behind them and our coach until my last breath.

Let's roll!!!
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(07-26-2017 02:53 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(07-26-2017 01:12 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  If we would have beat VA, that would have just delayed Keatts from becoming a millionaire! Just saying!

And we'd probably still have ended up with the same coach. And so far, it's worked out pretty well. Time to let that debate die. He moved on. He took Bryce. Okay. It's not about whining and throwing useless fits about it. It's about how we move on to support our team and program. I don't care if we suited up a team full of D3 walk ons. I'm a Seahawk for life and will stand behind them and our coach until my last breath.

Let's roll!!!


So far I like C.B.'s roster moves and his momentum. I also like how the social media team is starting to earn their keep over there. Solid team updates and videos this offseason. They need to keep that up.

If you haven't moved on from Bryce and Keatts at this point then you probably haven't moved on from a few ex-girlfriends in your life either.
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(07-26-2017 09:51 PM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(07-26-2017 02:53 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(07-26-2017 01:12 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  If we would have beat VA, that would have just delayed Keatts from becoming a millionaire! Just saying!

And we'd probably still have ended up with the same coach. And so far, it's worked out pretty well. Time to let that debate die. He moved on. He took Bryce. Okay. It's not about whining and throwing useless fits about it. It's about how we move on to support our team and program. I don't care if we suited up a team full of D3 walk ons. I'm a Seahawk for life and will stand behind them and our coach until my last breath.

Let's roll!!!


So far I like C.B.'s roster moves and his momentum. I also like how the social media team is starting to earn their keep over there. Solid team updates and videos this offseason. They need to keep that up.

If you haven't moved on from Bryce and Keatts at this point then you probably haven't moved on from a few ex-girlfriends in your life either.
You guys are pretty slow if you didn't pick up what I was putting down! UNCW could have beat UVA if Keatts wasn't worried about his new job. Anyone who thinks he went into the NCAA tournament not knowing he was headed to State as soon as the season was over might as well quit following bball. Why drag it out when all you have to do is lose and you can begin your new career. He obviously signed with State prior to the tournament.
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(07-26-2017 10:11 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  
(07-26-2017 09:51 PM)getmhawks Wrote:  
(07-26-2017 02:53 PM)CoastGuardHawk06 Wrote:  
(07-26-2017 01:12 PM)surfsalot Wrote:  If we would have beat VA, that would have just delayed Keatts from becoming a millionaire! Just saying!

And we'd probably still have ended up with the same coach. And so far, it's worked out pretty well. Time to let that debate die. He moved on. He took Bryce. Okay. It's not about whining and throwing useless fits about it. It's about how we move on to support our team and program. I don't care if we suited up a team full of D3 walk ons. I'm a Seahawk for life and will stand behind them and our coach until my last breath.

Let's roll!!!


So far I like C.B.'s roster moves and his momentum. I also like how the social media team is starting to earn their keep over there. Solid team updates and videos this offseason. They need to keep that up.

If you haven't moved on from Bryce and Keatts at this point then you probably haven't moved on from a few ex-girlfriends in your life either.
You guys are pretty slow if you didn't pick up what I was putting down! UNCW could have beat UVA if Keatts wasn't worried about his new job. Anyone who thinks he went into the NCAA tournament not knowing he was headed to State as soon as the season was over might as well quit following bball. Why drag it out when all you have to do is lose and you can begin your new career. He obviously signed with State prior to the tournament.

ding ding ding ding!


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I have ex's who now live in 3 different states. Never thought I'd be able to say that.
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(07-27-2017 07:03 AM)Seahawk Nation 08 Wrote:  I have ex's who now live in 3 different states. Never thought I'd be able to say that.
I think i've far surpassed that, and i haven't been single in 15 years! ha
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(07-27-2017 07:12 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  I think i've far surpassed that, and i haven't been single in 15 years! ha

Thanks one-upper! 05-stirthepot
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