(07-17-2017 08:08 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 11:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 10:01 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  It is amazing the progress made by a "can-do" energetic coach with relatively little resources and advantages. It is surreal that we are a legitimate contender to win the AAC and even an Access Bowl slot.

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Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

You see I look at Norvelle the same way I look at Tubby. Both did about the same as the previous coach and I am awaiting another season or two before I crown them a success or failure.

No shots no loyalties no differences. Same attitude towards both. Pretty simple logic.

I should try to not make fun of you because your case is more sad than anything. This isn't for you, because you won't understand it, but for the benefit of others.

Norvell
- Good facilities that will improve
- Funding at a fraction of P5 level
- Recruited at a higher level than Fuente AND retained many of his recruits from his first class
- 2nd class rated even higher
- First 3 classes, including 2018 class (I think) all rated higher than every single Fuente class
- Flawless PR skills, excellent interviewer, 100% positive
- Talks glowingly of Memphis being a GREAT job
- Has no Saul on his staff
- Season ticket sales at a record level

Tubby
- Absolute state of the art facilities
- Funding on a P5 level
- Horrible recruiting, and filling holes with Jucos
- Ran off 75% of the roster
- No top 100 recruits 2 and probably 3 years running
- Recruiting in Memphis isn't what it was 10 years ago
- Historical losses to end the season
- ZERO PR skills
- Season ticket sales...let's just say that the university hasn't been falling all over itself making the numbers public

I will introduce another concept that will be completely bewildering to you. It is called reasonable expectations. Based on what Norvell has done, one should reasonably expect that he will be able to continue what Fuente built and one could reasonably expect that he will improve on it. The experts see us winning or finishing in the top 2 of the conference and some are even saying that we have a shot at NY6. The perception of the program is clearly on a high.

Based on reasonable expectations, Tubby has torched the program. The experts are predicting that we are not going to do well at all. Experts' opinion don't mean much, but they do mirror the perception of the program locally and nationally.

Last but not least, what would the state of the program be if both coaches left? Norvell would leave a fully stocked roster which will for sure include very good redshirt freshman and a national perception of a program on the rise. Tubby would leave the program torched.

Quote: Pretty simple logic.

This one made me laugh. You have as much chance of achieving this as you do, flying to the moon in a space ship.

You have serious issues...All those words and for what...But again you are not here to discuss just to agitate.

On a side note have you ever played organized football or basketball

(07-17-2017 05:28 PM)Crazier Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 08:08 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 11:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

You see I look at Norvelle the same way I look at Tubby. Both did about the same as the previous coach and I am awaiting another season or two before I crown them a success or failure.

No shots no loyalties no differences. Same attitude towards both. Pretty simple logic.

I should try to not make fun of you because your case is more sad than anything. This isn't for you, because you won't understand it, but for the benefit of others.

Norvell
- Good facilities that will improve
- Funding at a fraction of P5 level
- Recruited at a higher level than Fuente AND retained many of his recruits from his first class
- 2nd class rated even higher
- First 3 classes, including 2018 class (I think) all rated higher than every single Fuente class
- Flawless PR skills, excellent interviewer, 100% positive
- Talks glowingly of Memphis being a GREAT job
- Has no Saul on his staff
- Season ticket sales at a record level

Tubby
- Absolute state of the art facilities
- Funding on a P5 level
- Horrible recruiting, and filling holes with Jucos
- Ran off 75% of the roster
- No top 100 recruits 2 and probably 3 years running
- Recruiting in Memphis isn't what it was 10 years ago
- Historical losses to end the season
- ZERO PR skills
- Season ticket sales...let's just say that the university hasn't been falling all over itself making the numbers public

I will introduce another concept that will be completely bewildering to you. It is called reasonable expectations. Based on what Norvell has done, one should reasonably expect that he will be able to continue what Fuente built and one could reasonably expect that he will improve on it. The experts see us winning or finishing in the top 2 of the conference and some are even saying that we have a shot at NY6. The perception of the program is clearly on a high.

Based on reasonable expectations, Tubby has torched the program. The experts are predicting that we are not going to do well at all. Experts' opinion don't mean much, but they do mirror the perception of the program locally and nationally.

Last but not least, what would the state of the program be if both coaches left? Norvell would leave a fully stocked roster which will for sure include very good redshirt freshman and a national perception of a program on the rise. Tubby would leave the program torched.

Quote: Pretty simple logic.

This one made me laugh. You have as much chance of achieving this as you do, flying to the moon in a space ship.

To be fair Tubby is not the sole reason the basketball program is a dumpster fire.

I agree completely, but the infrastructure is there to turn it around quickly.

(07-17-2017 06:46 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 08:08 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 11:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 06:19 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Has the can do energetic coach improved from the previous coach or simply held serve.

just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

You see I look at Norvelle the same way I look at Tubby. Both did about the same as the previous coach and I am awaiting another season or two before I crown them a success or failure.

No shots no loyalties no differences. Same attitude towards both. Pretty simple logic.

I should try to not make fun of you because your case is more sad than anything. This isn't for you, because you won't understand it, but for the benefit of others.

Norvell
- Good facilities that will improve
- Funding at a fraction of P5 level
- Recruited at a higher level than Fuente AND retained many of his recruits from his first class
- 2nd class rated even higher
- First 3 classes, including 2018 class (I think) all rated higher than every single Fuente class
- Flawless PR skills, excellent interviewer, 100% positive
- Talks glowingly of Memphis being a GREAT job
- Has no Saul on his staff
- Season ticket sales at a record level

Tubby
- Absolute state of the art facilities
- Funding on a P5 level
- Horrible recruiting, and filling holes with Jucos
- Ran off 75% of the roster
- No top 100 recruits 2 and probably 3 years running
- Recruiting in Memphis isn't what it was 10 years ago
- Historical losses to end the season
- ZERO PR skills
- Season ticket sales...let's just say that the university hasn't been falling all over itself making the numbers public

I will introduce another concept that will be completely bewildering to you. It is called reasonable expectations. Based on what Norvell has done, one should reasonably expect that he will be able to continue what Fuente built and one could reasonably expect that he will improve on it. The experts see us winning or finishing in the top 2 of the conference and some are even saying that we have a shot at NY6. The perception of the program is clearly on a high.

Based on reasonable expectations, Tubby has torched the program. The experts are predicting that we are not going to do well at all. Experts' opinion don't mean much, but they do mirror the perception of the program locally and nationally.

Last but not least, what would the state of the program be if both coaches left? Norvell would leave a fully stocked roster which will for sure include very good redshirt freshman and a national perception of a program on the rise. Tubby would leave the program torched.

Quote: Pretty simple logic.

This one made me laugh. You have as much chance of achieving this as you do, flying to the moon in a space ship.

You have serious issues...All those words and for what...But again you are not here to discuss just to agitate.

On a side note have you ever played organized football or basketball

You have seriouser issues. You just compared Norvell to Tubby. If that isn't purely to agitate...

I think Norvell will be a better HC than Fuente, at Memphis or not at Memphis.

(07-18-2017 01:53 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I think Norvell will be a better HC than Fuente, at Memphis or not at Memphis.

That is very possible.

(07-17-2017 05:44 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 01:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  OMG thread derailed again
SMDH

Some folks unhappy with Tubby could not refrain from bringing him up in a thread about Norvell...SMH

The O.P. throws this bait out consistently. The Tubby bashing was the whole point. Nothing got derailed. We definitely know the answer to the happy or sad question. Sad, sad, and more sad.

LOL, we have come to the point where praising a coach is considered "bait" by some posters. The OP made no mention of any other coach but Norvell and referenced a link about Norvell.

Let's stay on topic. For example, what do you think about Norvell's overall job performance? Are you looking forward to the upcoming season? Is there good basis for belief it will be a successful season?

(07-18-2017 06:47 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 05:44 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 01:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  OMG thread derailed again
SMDH

Some folks unhappy with Tubby could not refrain from bringing him up in a thread about Norvell...SMH

The O.P. throws this bait out consistently. The Tubby bashing was the whole point. Nothing got derailed. We definitely know the answer to the happy or sad question. Sad, sad, and more sad.

LOL, we have come to the point where praising a coach is considered "bait" by some posters. The OP made no mention of any other coach but Norvell and referenced a link about Norvell.

Let's stay on topic. For example, what do you think about Norvell's overall job performance? Are you looking forward to the upcoming season? Is there good basis for belief it will be a successful season?

LOL

(07-18-2017 11:22 AM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 06:47 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 05:44 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 01:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  OMG thread derailed again
SMDH

Some folks unhappy with Tubby could not refrain from bringing him up in a thread about Norvell...SMH

The O.P. throws this bait out consistently. The Tubby bashing was the whole point. Nothing got derailed. We definitely know the answer to the happy or sad question. Sad, sad, and more sad.

LOL, we have come to the point where praising a coach is considered "bait" by some posters. The OP made no mention of any other coach but Norvell and referenced a link about Norvell.

Let's stay on topic. For example, what do you think about Norvell's overall job performance? Are you looking forward to the upcoming season? Is there good basis for belief it will be a successful season?

LOL

Well, I tried to have a constructive discussion about our football coach, but to no avail. Carry on...

Keep doing your thing. You seem to enjoy it for some reason. Not quite masochism, but damn close.

(07-18-2017 01:53 AM)AlonsoWDC Wrote:  I think Norvell will be a better HC than Fuente, at Memphis or not at Memphis.

(07-17-2017 08:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 06:46 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 08:08 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 11:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

You see I look at Norvelle the same way I look at Tubby. Both did about the same as the previous coach and I am awaiting another season or two before I crown them a success or failure.

No shots no loyalties no differences. Same attitude towards both. Pretty simple logic.

I should try to not make fun of you because your case is more sad than anything. This isn't for you, because you won't understand it, but for the benefit of others.

Norvell
- Good facilities that will improve
- Funding at a fraction of P5 level
- Recruited at a higher level than Fuente AND retained many of his recruits from his first class
- 2nd class rated even higher
- First 3 classes, including 2018 class (I think) all rated higher than every single Fuente class
- Flawless PR skills, excellent interviewer, 100% positive
- Talks glowingly of Memphis being a GREAT job
- Has no Saul on his staff
- Season ticket sales at a record level

Tubby
- Absolute state of the art facilities
- Funding on a P5 level
- Horrible recruiting, and filling holes with Jucos
- Ran off 75% of the roster
- No top 100 recruits 2 and probably 3 years running
- Recruiting in Memphis isn't what it was 10 years ago
- Historical losses to end the season
- ZERO PR skills
- Season ticket sales...let's just say that the university hasn't been falling all over itself making the numbers public

I will introduce another concept that will be completely bewildering to you. It is called reasonable expectations. Based on what Norvell has done, one should reasonably expect that he will be able to continue what Fuente built and one could reasonably expect that he will improve on it. The experts see us winning or finishing in the top 2 of the conference and some are even saying that we have a shot at NY6. The perception of the program is clearly on a high.

Based on reasonable expectations, Tubby has torched the program. The experts are predicting that we are not going to do well at all. Experts' opinion don't mean much, but they do mirror the perception of the program locally and nationally.

Last but not least, what would the state of the program be if both coaches left? Norvell would leave a fully stocked roster which will for sure include very good redshirt freshman and a national perception of a program on the rise. Tubby would leave the program torched.

Quote: Pretty simple logic.

This one made me laugh. You have as much chance of achieving this as you do, flying to the moon in a space ship.

You have serious issues...All those words and for what...But again you are not here to discuss just to agitate.

On a side note have you ever played organized football or basketball

You have seriouser issues. You just compared Norvell to Tubby. If that isn't purely to agitate...

In all seriosity...

(07-18-2017 06:47 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 05:44 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 01:10 PM)tiger1016 Wrote:  OMG thread derailed again
SMDH

Some folks unhappy with Tubby could not refrain from bringing him up in a thread about Norvell...SMH

The O.P. throws this bait out consistently. The Tubby bashing was the whole point. Nothing got derailed. We definitely know the answer to the happy or sad question. Sad, sad, and more sad.

LOL, we have come to the point where praising a coach is considered "bait" by some posters. The OP made no mention of any other coach but Norvell and referenced a link about Norvell.

Let's stay on topic. For example, what do you think about Norvell's overall job performance? Are you looking forward to the upcoming season? Is there good basis for belief it will be a successful season?

Your the OP? You took the first shot.

(07-17-2017 08:03 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 06:46 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-17-2017 08:08 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 11:54 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(07-16-2017 09:16 PM)bluebacker Wrote:  just because your boy Tubby is taking heat is no reason to take it out on Norvelle. Shame on you.

You see I look at Norvelle the same way I look at Tubby. Both did about the same as the previous coach and I am awaiting another season or two before I crown them a success or failure.

No shots no loyalties no differences. Same attitude towards both. Pretty simple logic.

I should try to not make fun of you because your case is more sad than anything. This isn't for you, because you won't understand it, but for the benefit of others.

Norvell
- Good facilities that will improve
- Funding at a fraction of P5 level
- Recruited at a higher level than Fuente AND retained many of his recruits from his first class
- 2nd class rated even higher
- First 3 classes, including 2018 class (I think) all rated higher than every single Fuente class
- Flawless PR skills, excellent interviewer, 100% positive
- Talks glowingly of Memphis being a GREAT job
- Has no Saul on his staff
- Season ticket sales at a record level

Tubby
- Absolute state of the art facilities
- Funding on a P5 level
- Horrible recruiting, and filling holes with Jucos
- Ran off 75% of the roster
- No top 100 recruits 2 and probably 3 years running
- Recruiting in Memphis isn't what it was 10 years ago
- Historical losses to end the season
- ZERO PR skills
- Season ticket sales...let's just say that the university hasn't been falling all over itself making the numbers public

I will introduce another concept that will be completely bewildering to you. It is called reasonable expectations. Based on what Norvell has done, one should reasonably expect that he will be able to continue what Fuente built and one could reasonably expect that he will improve on it. The experts see us winning or finishing in the top 2 of the conference and some are even saying that we have a shot at NY6. The perception of the program is clearly on a high.

Based on reasonable expectations, Tubby has torched the program. The experts are predicting that we are not going to do well at all. Experts' opinion don't mean much, but they do mirror the perception of the program locally and nationally.

Last but not least, what would the state of the program be if both coaches left? Norvell would leave a fully stocked roster which will for sure include very good redshirt freshman and a national perception of a program on the rise. Tubby would leave the program torched.

Quote: Pretty simple logic.

This one made me laugh. You have as much chance of achieving this as you do, flying to the moon in a space ship.

You have serious issues...All those words and for what...But again you are not here to discuss just to agitate.

On a side note have you ever played organized football or basketball

You have seriouser issues. You just compared Norvell to Tubby. If that isn't purely to agitate...

The issues you have have nothing to do with your opinions towards our coaches.

you have issues
no. you have issues
you have seriouser issues
no. your issues are more seriouser.

lol

I love coming on here and watching grown men fight. NOT

(07-18-2017 01:40 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  you have issues
no. you have issues
you have seriouser issues
no. your issues are more seriouser.

lol

Seriousist infinity.

(07-18-2017 07:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 01:40 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  you have issues
no. you have issues
you have seriouser issues
no. your issues are more seriouser.

lol

Seriousist infinity.

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510
58209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
82148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128
48111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
44288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091
45648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
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00056812714526356082778577134275778960917363717872
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59825349042875546873115956286388235378759375195778
18577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989 etc

(07-18-2017 08:01 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 07:14 PM)Stammers Wrote:  

(07-18-2017 01:40 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  you have issues
no. you have issues
you have seriouser issues
no. your issues are more seriouser.

lol

Seriousist infinity.

3.14159265358979323846264338327950288419716939937510
58209749445923078164062862089986280348253421170679
82148086513282306647093844609550582231725359408128
48111745028410270193852110555964462294895493038196
44288109756659334461284756482337867831652712019091
45648566923460348610454326648213393607260249141273
72458700660631558817488152092096282925409171536436
78925903600113305305488204665213841469519415116094
33057270365759591953092186117381932611793105118548
07446237996274956735188575272489122793818301194912
98336733624406566430860213949463952247371907021798
60943702770539217176293176752384674818467669405132
00056812714526356082778577134275778960917363717872
14684409012249534301465495853710507922796892589235
42019956112129021960864034418159813629774771309960
51870721134999999837297804995105973173281609631859
50244594553469083026425223082533446850352619311881
71010003137838752886587533208381420617177669147303
59825349042875546873115956286388235378759375195778
18577805321712268066130019278766111959092164201989 etc

Stop being irrational ...