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This year the university should see growth in enrollment, with the out of state waiver. USM is now 25% less expensive than most Louisiana universities. Three years ago USM was equal to or more expensive than them. Growing enrollment out of state has a number of positives for athletics:

1. Slightly more fee money
2. Potentially grows the long term regional tv market, for what this is worth
3. Reverses a negative trajectory
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And the Rhino Liner Endowment for the Dooped will help too.
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(07-16-2017 08:00 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  This year the university should see growth in enrollment, with the out of state waiver. USM is now 25% less expensive than most Louisiana universities. Three years ago USM was equal to or more expensive than them. Growing enrollment out of state has a number of positives for athletics:

1. Slightly more fee money
2. Potentially grows the long term regional tv market, for what this is worth
3. Reverses a negative trajectory

#criticalmassnecessity

they had nothing to lose and only gain upon continuing along the downward tick.....this is where business begins to fail....

I haven't looked at LA numbers, but my guess is they increased their price point like most schools whilst ignoring the law of diminishing....

enrollment relative to the economy is a battle....it's only beginning....

addendum: brick and mortar are also bowing to tech pressuring....that will only apply more as time moves forward
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(07-16-2017 08:57 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 08:00 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  This year the university should see growth in enrollment, with the out of state waiver. USM is now 25% less expensive than most Louisiana universities. Three years ago USM was equal to or more expensive than them. Growing enrollment out of state has a number of positives for athletics:

1. Slightly more fee money
2. Potentially grows the long term regional tv market, for what this is worth
3. Reverses a negative trajectory

#criticalmassnecessity

they had nothing to lose and only gain upon continuing along the downward tick.....this is where business begins to fail....

I haven't looked at LA numbers, but my guess is they increased their price point like most schools whilst ignoring the law of diminishing....

enrollment relative to the economy is a battle....it's only beginning....

addendum: brick and mortar are also bowing to tech pressuring....

Tuition for most students in the Louisiana system is relatively unimportant because of the state scholarship program. Most pay only for fees and books. Wouldnt it be nice for one to live in Hatiesburg with a relative, etc, enroll at USM and having to pay for just books and fees? That is how it is with the Louisiana schools, most students are commuters so they can get through the education phase of their lives without graduating with a huge student loan debt. USM enrollment would surge to at least 35-40,000 under those conditions.
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(07-16-2017 09:07 AM)eager eagle Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 08:57 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 08:00 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  This year the university should see growth in enrollment, with the out of state waiver. USM is now 25% less expensive than most Louisiana universities. Three years ago USM was equal to or more expensive than them. Growing enrollment out of state has a number of positives for athletics:

1. Slightly more fee money
2. Potentially grows the long term regional tv market, for what this is worth
3. Reverses a negative trajectory

#criticalmassnecessity

they had nothing to lose and only gain upon continuing along the downward tick.....this is where business begins to fail....

I haven't looked at LA numbers, but my guess is they increased their price point like most schools whilst ignoring the law of diminishing....

enrollment relative to the economy is a battle....it's only beginning....

addendum: brick and mortar are also bowing to tech pressuring....

Tuition for most students in the Louisiana system is relatively unimportant because of the state scholarship program. Most pay only for fees and books. Wouldnt it be nice for one to live in Hatiesburg with a relative, etc, enroll at USM and having to pay for just books and fees? That is how it is with the Louisiana schools, most students are commuters so they can get through the education phase of their lives without graduating with a huge student loan debt. USM enrollment would surge to at least 35-40,000 under those conditions.

there is no question the playing field isn't equal.....vis-à-vis, p5/g5 dollars.....

hence, my point....we have no choice unless legislative changes are made.....at least this is a start in salvaging....

the chance of that happening is currently nil.....

look at the midwest's numbers.....they're getting hammered by exceeding the ROI.....
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TOPS doesn't cover housing or fees. The program is unsustainable like any free lunch.
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(07-16-2017 09:38 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  TOPS doesn't cover housing or fees. The program is unsustainable like any free lunch.

regardless, its a priority in LA....

I'm not disagreeing with you.....however, as it exists today, it's still an unlevel playing field....

http://www.nola.com/politics/index.ssf/2...udget.html

Quote:"The first thing that we would fully fund is TOPS," said Sen. Eric LaFleur, D-Ville Platte, who handles the budget for the chamber.
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Yes, program was initially for high achieving low income students, but was expanded. It really contributes to tuition hikes.
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(07-16-2017 10:09 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Yes, program was initially for high achieving low income students, but was expanded. It really contributes to tuition hikes.

that's what happens when things are subsidized to a level of lunacy....

give an inch, they will most certainly take a mile....

not so shockingly, I quoted a dem....

health care is in the same vein as tits on a boar hog.....

the economics of today are going to cripple this country in the not so distant future.....

one can "book that one, danno"
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(07-16-2017 10:09 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Yes, program was initially for high achieving low income students, but was expanded. It really contributes to tuition hikes.

Yes, definitely contributed to tuition hikes because the schools just raised tuition and then the tops (state program) paid the bill. I understand the tops tuition amount has been capped thus if they raise tuition now it will come out of the students pockets. I didnt mention housing because most students in these Louisiana schools are commuters, part time, or internet learners.
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(07-16-2017 10:18 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:09 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Yes, program was initially for high achieving low income students, but was expanded. It really contributes to tuition hikes.

that's what happens when things are subsidized to a level of lunacy....

give an inch, they will most certainly take a mile....

not so shockingly, I quoted a dem....

health care is in the same vein as tits on a boar hog.....

the economics of today are going to cripple this country in the not so distant future.....

one can "book that one, danno"

Did you graduate in economics? You seem to reference it often.
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(07-16-2017 01:01 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:18 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:09 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Yes, program was initially for high achieving low income students, but was expanded. It really contributes to tuition hikes.

that's what happens when things are subsidized to a level of lunacy....

give an inch, they will most certainly take a mile....

not so shockingly, I quoted a dem....

health care is in the same vein as tits on a boar hog.....

the economics of today are going to cripple this country in the not so distant future.....

one can "book that one, danno"

Did you graduate in economics? You seem to reference it often.

Ha.

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(07-16-2017 01:01 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:18 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:09 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Yes, program was initially for high achieving low income students, but was expanded. It really contributes to tuition hikes.

that's what happens when things are subsidized to a level of lunacy....

give an inch, they will most certainly take a mile....

not so shockingly, I quoted a dem....

health care is in the same vein as tits on a boar hog.....

the economics of today are going to cripple this country in the not so distant future.....

one can "book that one, danno"

Did you graduate in economics? You seem to reference it often.

He graduated with a degree in mystical wizardry from Clown U
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(07-16-2017 02:25 PM)GeagleFan Wrote:  He graduated with a degree in wizardry

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(07-16-2017 01:01 PM)RockTheRock Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:18 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-16-2017 10:09 AM)LouisianaEagleEdD Wrote:  Yes, program was initially for high achieving low income students, but was expanded. It really contributes to tuition hikes.

that's what happens when things are subsidized to a level of lunacy....

give an inch, they will most certainly take a mile....

not so shockingly, I quoted a dem....

health care is in the same vein as tits on a boar hog.....

the economics of today are going to cripple this country in the not so distant future.....

one can "book that one, danno"

Did you graduate in economics? You seem to reference it often.

no....but ol' Trellis G remembers me well as I gave him da finga walking out the door after taking his bs class......

shockingly, economics matter.....your feelings don't mean shite to me....
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