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NCAA Tournament committee to emphasize road results in new bracket process
07-14-2017 06:55 PM
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(07-14-2017 06:55 PM)olddawg Wrote:  Good news for us mid-majors.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketb...t-process/

This reads like a good development
07-14-2017 06:59 PM
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More reason to play the guarantee games. Rowe has said he wants 2 per year. Perhaps he rethinks that preference with this new knowledge and adds some more beef to the OOC schedule.
07-15-2017 10:01 AM
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(07-15-2017 10:01 AM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  More reason to play the guarantee games. Rowe has said he wants 2 per year. Perhaps he rethinks that preference with this new knowledge and adds some more beef to the OOC schedule.

We talk a lot about the money for a payday game in FB, but very little in basketball. I seem to remember Stanford paying us $40k to go out there several years ago, but what is a game pay these days?
07-15-2017 12:53 PM
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RE: NCAA Tournament committee to emphasize road results in new bracket process
Great in theory...but does anyone really believe that the Committee is going to select more mid-majors for At-Large bids? If anything, this will probably just serve as a tiebreaker between the 8th place SEC team and the 8th place ACC team for seeding purposes.
07-15-2017 01:16 PM
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Close to $100,000 to play the big dogs. JMU can make more money in a few games than they make all year for ticket sales.
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(07-15-2017 01:17 PM)Hart Foundation Wrote:  Close to $100,000 to play the big dogs. JMU can make more money in a few games than they make all year for ticket sales.

Thanks, now if we can sniff out some beatable big dogs and get a win and a nice paycheck, it may serve us well in bringing back the fans for some home games.
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I look at this change a little differently in terms of the realistic opportunity for JMU. I think JMU can build excitement around their program and build a name for themselves by winning some games against teams from better conferences at home. If JMU can get back to being a program that is 75-150 consistently there will be opportunities to host teams in P5 leagues who are looking for "winnable" road games that score higher when the NCAA selection committee reviews their resume for an at large. Also schools in the A-10 and AAC would have more of an incentive to play a team like JMU on the road. There will be opportunities for home and home series with these types of programs.

I think the elite P5 will still wind up balancing their schedule where they play a lot at home but better teams at home and a few other elite top 30 teams on the road or a neutral site.

In a way early on this rule change could discourage an elite P5 from scheduling a team like JMU who is above 161 because that is a category 4 win.
07-16-2017 07:42 AM
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If the NCAA was serious about creating a level playing field, they would require all teams to play an equal amount of home games and away games. Every conference requires this for conference games so all of the schools must agree that an equal amount of home and away games is fair. Why do they not feel the same about their non-conference games?

The NCAA and its Presidents need to stand up to the P5s and represent ALL of their institutions. If the P5 would like to break away from the NCAA, I honestly believe the schools that remain will be just fine. How could they be worse? The P5s are keeping most of the money and TV coverage anyway. The non-P5s may actually do better without the P5s as there will be more opportunity to build their own branding rather than hope for the crumbs from the P5s.
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(07-16-2017 04:48 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  If the NCAA was serious about creating a level playing field, they would require all teams to play an equal amount of home games and away games. Every conference requires this for conference games so all of the schools must agree that an equal amount of home and away games is fair. Why do they not feel the same about their non-conference games?

The NCAA and its Presidents need to stand up to the P5s and represent ALL of their institutions. If the P5 would like to break away from the NCAA, I honestly believe the schools that remain will be just fine. How could they be worse? The P5s are keeping most of the money and TV coverage anyway. The non-P5s may actually do better without the P5s as there will be more opportunity to build their own branding rather than hope for the crumbs from the P5s.

Nation, Nation, Nation... come on. This is the United States, not Cuba, Korea, or the old Soviet Union. Our schools are free to make choices and I'm damn glad I spent time defending that right. We simply need to develop a strategy, a team, and a strong program to combat those that stand in our way to greatness.

I get a lot more satisfaction out of beating "the haves" at their game versus making them come down to ours, or worse, their separating themselves further. Don't you like beating them whether it be MBB as we did under Coach Campenelli, in football as we did to UVA and Tech, as our WBB teams have continuously done for a long time, or as our Softball team is now dismantling the power programs on a regular basis?
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I love competition. I also want a level playing field. What exists today is a stacked deck for the P5s that is absurd. Why would any governing body condone allowing schools like Duke and Syracuse to never leave home until league play? Heck, why stop there? Duke should play all of their league games at home too.
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JMUNation is right about this being about governance. The NCAA - a non-profit organization - has a mandate, but the reality is that universities with big $$$ are really setting the rules.

This is how the FCS was born. The difference for football was that it became obvious much sooner due to the sheer number of scholarships. In bball, a "small school" would seem to have just the same opportunity to field quality starters as a P5. But TV revenues have forever changed the landscape, and any P5 school or league would be categorically crazy to share with schools that comparatively fail in terms of fandom and donors.

I don't agree with the idea of a P5-only bball league, but it does make sense in the contemporary context to me.

In any case, I hope JMU learns how to maximize its exposure through this new development.
07-17-2017 07:58 AM
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The following classic Jerry Tarkanian line summarizes the chances of there every being any attempt at a level playing field.

“The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky it will probably slap another two years probation on Cleveland State.’’

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07-17-2017 09:19 AM
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(07-17-2017 09:19 AM)Bogey Wrote:  The following classic Jerry Tarkanian line summarizes the chances of there every being any attempt at a level playing field.

“The NCAA is so mad at Kentucky it will probably slap another two years probation on Cleveland State.’’

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That was a classic.
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And so true. I tried to quote Tarkanian in another thread but could not get the quote exactly right. Big time college sports are becoming a joke. The NCAA is simply a governing body that really doesn't govern.
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(07-17-2017 10:43 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  And so true. I tried to quote Tarkanian in another thread but could not get the quote exactly right. Big time college sports are becoming a joke. The NCAA is simply a governing body that really doesn't govern.

Yep.

UNCheat still hasn't been kicked in the groin for 20+ years of strategically planned fraud. Miami got off with little more than a slap on the wrist. Over half of the SEC (and apparently ACC) cheats with no remorse. But, by Buddha, the NCAA has other things to concentrate on. You know, like the Southern Idaho School of Mimes (not Mines) Men's Badminton team going on probation for 5 years for looking at the NCAA the wrong way.
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(07-18-2017 06:35 AM)Wear Purple Wrote:  
(07-17-2017 10:43 PM)JMUNation Wrote:  And so true. I tried to quote Tarkanian in another thread but could not get the quote exactly right. Big time college sports are becoming a joke. The NCAA is simply a governing body that really doesn't govern.

Yep.

UNCheat still hasn't been kicked in the groin for 20+ years of strategically planned fraud. Miami got off with little more than a slap on the wrist. Over half of the SEC (and apparently ACC) cheats with no remorse. But, by Buddha, the NCAA has other things to concentrate on. You know, like the Southern Idaho School of Mimes (not Mines) Men's Badminton team going on probation for 5 years for looking at the NCAA the wrong way.

Yup, what went on-- and probably still going on-- in Cheater Hill is a damn travesty. Their arrogant stonewalling of the process will probably get them off with nothing at all. They've spent $18 million+ on keeping those 1993, 2005 and 2009 banners in place.
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