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New emphasis on road wins
I posted this on our board, but this will likely get more conversation.

So they are changing the rules again on how to rate teams, this time changing the shares given to quality road games. Quality home games are now considered top 30 rpi, quality neutral games are considered top 50 rpi and quality road games are considered top 75.

Just another way to make the Syracuse's who lost a lot of games finds an easier way in. Since the threshold is still tight it really will only boost major conferences ability to suck up at large bids. Now 2 wins in 10 tries on the road against high ranked teams will give them boosts for when they win several at home. Not surprised but just another hurdle for anyone who isnt in a power conference.

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07-14-2017 02:55 PM
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RE: New emphasis on road wins
(07-14-2017 02:55 PM)dan10 Wrote:  I posted this on our board, but this will likely get more conversation.

So they are changing the rules again on how to rate teams, this time changing the shares given to quality road games. Quality home games are now considered top 30 rpi, quality neutral games are considered top 50 rpi and quality road games are considered top 75.

Just another way to make the Syracuse's who lost a lot of games finds an easier way in. Since the threshold is still tight it really will only boost major conferences ability to suck up at large bids. Now 2 wins in 10 tries on the road against high ranked teams will give them boosts for when they win several at home. Not surprised but just another hurdle for anyone who isnt in a power conference.

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I've read many articles that have the opposite opinion. They feel that this a bonus for the mids on the premise that the P5s never play anyone on the road OOC. Now they will have to to accumulate points. I see your point about say an ACC team becuase they have some many chances IN conference.
07-16-2017 08:01 AM
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RE: New emphasis on road wins
This will change the way they schedule, which is already happening the past few years. The top teams will start scheduling home and homes with other big teams, where a loss wont hurt them and a win will continue to further impress. It will also likely mean fewer chances for solid buy games as the power teams will be even more cautious with who they buy to come play them at home.
07-17-2017 07:04 AM
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RE: New emphasis on road wins
http://tennessee.247sports.com/Article/C...-101438614

Most of our conf schools would have a chance to get "quality wins" based on the new road criteria. This wasn't there before.
07-17-2017 08:51 AM
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I agree where contracts exist currently, there will be some benefit to mid majors, but I think the majors will change how the schedule going forward, that won't benefit the mid majors. I think most buy games will go to low majors and you will see more home and home series of UNC and Kansas or Duke Kentucky etc. I want to believe this will help out the mid majors, but the realist in me say the major teams will just change their scheduling strategy to still keep the mids out. After all, they don't want the power shifting in any way.
07-18-2017 07:57 AM
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I would add to this that this certainly can facilitate better home and home between mid major schools to gain quality wins. Top tier mid majors in general have mostly avoided each other so as not to cause eliminations to the other one. I think that thinking could change and should change. Play the game the majors will play and still get quality wins or opportunities without having to include the big boys. Think bracketbusters reinvented with actual upside.
07-18-2017 07:59 AM
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i guess my point Dan was We can still get some "quality" road wins in conference, which was a rare happening before.
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(07-18-2017 08:10 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  i guess my point Dan was We can still get some "quality" road wins in conference, which was a rare happening before.

They wont be top tier. On occasion like last year UNCW was, but more likely there will be one team in the top 75 and a couple in the 2nd tier and everyone else below that. I do see the possibility of it helping, but historically with our current set up of teams I do not see that many opportunities in conference.
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What I mean by that is in a given year we are likely 2-3 teams in the first two tiers. I am not sure that will move the needle much as this help others conferences just as much if not more, because the CAA tends to be top heavy.
07-20-2017 07:30 AM
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