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At the least the Trump team attempted to collude with Russia.
That is the undeniable truth. If this came out in January I think most would have thought it was a no brainer impeachment. Now he's one of theirs and the GOP is going to defend this guy to the hilt. I will also say if the exact same situation unfolded under a Clinton presidency we would be weeks away from a conviction in the Senate under the exact same criteria. Just the attempt to collude. The GOP wouldn't need evidence of the collusion. The attempt would be enough to impeach. It's amazing how freckle and shallow and transparent the GOP and their followers are. Just believe whole cloth that that little old meeeting between the Putin spy and the Trump campaign was a nothingburger. Pathetic.
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Are you embarrassed of yourself yet? I know I am for you.
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Deep thoughts there TN
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Loretta Lynch must have been on team Trump behind the scenes. America is asking where is the crime and we keep getting nothing. Russians have jumped the shark Dims, get over it. You are wrong just like ya'll were wrong about the election and thousands of other bullshite made up stories after the election. America is tired of it and it will show in the next election.
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Somebody is leading the league in russian.
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bwahhhaaaaa America is tired of it. BS. You keep believing that cupcake. Every week there is a new revelation. I honestly didnt think people could be this stupid. All of these connections..... all of these meetings. You think they are coincidences? Holy SHYT! You guys cant be this dumb.
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surprise surprise surprise.......

Breaking - Another person was in the DonJr Collusion meeting - a Russian Lobbyist/former Intelligence Officer (DonJr caught lying again and again and again)***********

Why would DJTjr. lie............. hmmmmmmmmmmmm It's almost like they got something to hide doesn't it???? hmmmmm
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Just gonna slide in a quick post so Mach doesn't do the three in a row again.
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Why can't DJT remember anything when it comes to Russia and meetings with them? hmmmmm
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Too much vodka at the meetings? Usual affects my memory a bit.
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If your idea of what is good and what is bad is not based on what has actually happened, then what is it based on?
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Jr. is a imbecile. Tiffany's damage is less sever. Lying? He's his daddy's son. No crime nor treason was committed here. Just a HUUUGE mistake. Send him home.
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(07-14-2017 06:30 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  Just gonna slide in a quick post so Mach doesn't do the three in a row again.

lol....ol' boy's on tilt once again....god help him....I can try no longer 03-wink
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(07-14-2017 07:37 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Jr. is a imbecile. Tiffany's damage is less sever. Lying? He's his daddy's son. No crime nor treason was committed here. Just a HUUUGE mistake. Send him home.

The problem is Kushner. He lied on his disclosure form. He got and opportunity to revise it and lied again. This is the 3rd Russian contact that he has hid.
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(07-14-2017 05:29 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Deep thoughts there TN

Well, he aint the only one. It's sad seeing what one would assume are reasonably intelligent people bolting down the same rabbit holes day after day with the same results.

Lets recount the actual number of laws broken so far by this administration. Oh wait, we can't because there have been none.

Now as far as the object of your man crush and his group, one could make the case on several counts that the past administration violated several laws ethical tenets.
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(07-14-2017 06:14 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  bwahhhaaaaa America is tired of it. BS. You keep believing that cupcake. Every week there is a new revelation. I honestly didnt think people could be this stupid. All of these connections..... all of these meetings. You think they are coincidences? Holy SHYT! You guys cant be this dumb.

And not a one of them illegal.
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(07-14-2017 06:38 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Why can't DJT remember anything when it comes to Russia and meetings with them? hmmmmm

The same reason HRC couldnt remember shite in her own senate hearings?
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(07-14-2017 07:44 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 06:30 AM)BuffaloTN Wrote:  Just gonna slide in a quick post so Mach doesn't do the three in a row again.

lol....ol' boy's on tilt once again....god help him....I can try no longer 03-wink

Prime example of poor genetics.
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RE: At the least the Trump team attempted to collude with Russia.
http://www.investors.com/politics/editor...-campaign/

Well he tried and failed to get opposition research from a foreign government. Hillary succeeded. She also got money from the Russians WHILE in office.

"...To see the hypocrisy inherent in this requires just a few recent examples. These are by no means exhaustive; there are many, many more.
Hillary Clinton: President Trump's 2016 foe, Hillary Clinton, presented her Russian counterpart with a famous gag "reset button." It was supposed to represent a new era in U.S.-Russian ties. Instead, it was a transparent and pathetically weak attempt to appease Russia, which proceeded to annex the Crimea and parts of Ukraine during her tenure as secretary of state. But her ties to the Russians and collusion with them and other questionable nations went far deeper and was far more troubling than Donald Jr.'s ever was.

Last January, Politico reported that the Democratic National Committee, acting on behalf of Hillary, actually contacted officials in the corrupt government of the Ukraine seeking opposition research against Trump. "Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office," Politico said. "They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton's allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisors."
Is that not collusion? By the way, Ukrainian-supplied information about Manafort meeting with Russian officials led to him being fired by Trump. So the DNC actually used the information.
OK, but what about Russia? The media did very little due diligence on reports of Hillary's collusion with Russia. As we reported in May, not only did Bill Clinton get $500,000 in 2010 for giving a speech in Moscow, paid for by a company with ties to Russian intelligence, but he did so while Hillary was the nation's top diplomat.
We noted the overwhelming stench of collusion between the Clintons and Russia, noting that Viktor Vekselberg, a "Putin confidant," and other Putin cronies gave money to the Clinton Foundation. The Clinton charity also took in millions from Uranium One, which was sold to the Russian government in 2010. With its acquisition, Russia gained control of 20% of the U.S.' uranium deposits. Hillary's State Department approved the sale.
John Podesta: Hillary's campaign manager didn't disclose during the campaign that he had received 75,000 shares of stock from Joule Unlimited, which was financed by the Kremlin. Podesta served as a director of the company from 2010 to 2014, when he joined the Obama White House. He hid the holdings from public scrutiny by transferring them to a shell company called Leonidio Holdings, that he incorporated a mere week and a half before taking a post in the White House.
Oh, and don't forget Tony Podesta, John's brother, who was paid $24 million in fees as a lobbyist in 2016, much of it from foreign governments. He lobbied for Sberbank, a Russian financial firm, that was trying to get U.S. sanctions removed that had been imposed after Russia took the Crimea from Ukraine in 2014.
President Obama: Famously, President Obama met with then-Russian President Dmitry Medvedev, a protege of Vladimir Putin, at a 2012 conference in Seoul. In comments he thought weren't being picked up by a microphone, Obama said he needed time, "particularly with missile defense," until he was in a stronger political position.
Here's the ensuing conversation. You can decide whether it amounts to collusion.
Medvedev: "I understand your message about space."
Obama: "This is my last election. … After my election I have more flexibility."
Medvedev: "I will transmit this information to Vladimir."
And, of course, there was the fact that Obama did virtually nothing as Putin ransacked the Crimea, threatened Poland and the Baltic nations, while Obama himself outsourced the fight against ISIS to Russia, leading to the mass murder of civilians there. This too is collusion, the inevitable result of someone who cravenly promised "flexibility" to a dictator.
DNC/Russia: The DNC used disinformation from a highly questionable source linked to the Russians to discredit Trump last year. Former British spy Christopher Steele produced a dossier containing lots of salacious charges against Trump, including some obscene in nature. Steele handed the dossier over, but only after being paid by Fusion GPS, an opposition research firm that was itself being paid by a Hillary Clinton supporter.
As the Washington Times' Rowan Scarborough wrote this week: "Mr. Steele makes clear that his unproven charges came almost exclusively from sources linked to the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin. He identified his sources as "a senior Russian Ministry figure,' a former 'top level Russian intelligence officer active inside the Kremlin,' a 'senior Kremlin official,' and a 'senior Russian government official.' "
And the Democrats paid for this information, and then circulated it.
Russia/Green Groups:  In the last election, Hillary Clinton made special cause with left-wing green groups, since she had plainly stated her intent to take down the fossil fuel industry — and along with it, American industry and its way of life — a long-cherished goal of the far-left green movement. Now, according to House Science Committee Chairman Lamar Smith, it turns out that the green groups were working in collusion with — you guessed it — Russia.
As Smith told the Wall Street Journal, "If you connect the dots, it is clear that Russia is funding U.S. environmental groups in an effort to suppress our domestic oil and gas industry, specifically hydraulic fracking. They have established an elaborate scheme that funnels money through shell companies in Bermuda. This scheme may violate federal law and certainly distorts the U.S. energy market. The American people deserve to know the truth and I am confident (Treasury) Secretary (Steve) Mnuchin will investigate the allegations."
Tens of millions of dollars funneled to green groups to attack the U.S. energy industry, on behalf of Russia and global warming.
The fact is, the Democratic Party and their allies on the left are up to their necks in real, actual, demonstrable and irrefutable collusion with the Russians and their dictatorial former-KGB leader, Vladimir Putin. With a few notable exceptions, the mainstream media have all but ignored this, in favor of hyperventilating over a nothingburger meeting between Donald Trump Jr. and a Russian lawyer who was, by the way, allowed into the U.S. on a special visa by none other than Attorney General Loretta Lynch.
Democrats and the left didn't just collude with Russia; they embraced them, and show no shame in having done so.
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so what law was broken Mach?
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