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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
The best thing is that UH pummeled their P5 opponents last year and dropped conference games.
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Lol. Lotsa effort for an average troll
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 09:30 PM)BalancedManSPE Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 08:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:44 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:15 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  Ya...It'd be like including UC, USF, and UCONN on this list.

But then Navy probably wouldn't be #1, which would screw up his slant.

The discussion is about those without the resource advantages being able to consistently win against those with the resource advantages. You got BCS money while in the Big East, so any wins over other Big East teams are irrelevant to the point. 2006 Navy win over Edsall-coached, Big East funded UConn does count.

It's not that hard.

Congratulations, you are the tallest midget.

Ha ha ha on the ECU unintentional irony: the ONLY reason I started commenting on this thread was the Pirate fan chest-beating about being the tallest midget, P5-beater category. #fakepiratenews.
So if you want to get the pirate chorus going that ECU is NOT the tallest midget I will listen to that song all night.

I am now officially looking forward to 2020 and scoring another 66 points at Dowdy Ficklen.

ECU belongs with Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, and Southern Miss. Nothing they have done since entering the AAC has shown otherwise... in fact its been just the opposite. No investment... They've divested.
OTOH, Tulane has been investing. New coaches in the main sports. They'll right the ship with time.

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That's an uneducated statement regarding ECU not investing in there facilities. But I would expect that from a simpleton.
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
We've spent about $300 million in facilities since 2012 including construction that is about to start on a $60 million southside renovation / expansion on Dowdy-Ficklen, but sure, spin that narrative.

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(07-13-2017 03:33 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  We've spent about $300 million in facilities since 2012 including construction that is about to start on a $60 million southside renovation / expansion on Dowdy-Ficklen, but sure, spin that narrative.

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That number sounds high. 300 million in athletic facilities or 300 million in cap spending for the entire school? Pretty sure the other guy is talking about athletic spending.
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(07-13-2017 04:02 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 03:33 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  We've spent about $300 million in facilities since 2012 including construction that is about to start on a $60 million southside renovation / expansion on Dowdy-Ficklen, but sure, spin that narrative.

[Image: stadium+expansion.JPG]

[Image: CgNjz3DXIAIpVs7.jpg]

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That number sounds high. 300 million in athletic facilities or 300 million in cap spending for the entire school? Pretty sure the other guy is talking about athletic spending.

Athletic spending

- new Olympic village (new SB stadium, track, fieldhouse)
- Baseball renovations
- DF expansion
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 09:30 PM)BalancedManSPE Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 08:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:44 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:15 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:51 AM)HuskyU Wrote:  Ya...It'd be like including UC, USF, and UCONN on this list.

But then Navy probably wouldn't be #1, which would screw up his slant.

The discussion is about those without the resource advantages being able to consistently win against those with the resource advantages. You got BCS money while in the Big East, so any wins over other Big East teams are irrelevant to the point. 2006 Navy win over Edsall-coached, Big East funded UConn does count.

It's not that hard.

Congratulations, you are the tallest midget.

Ha ha ha on the ECU unintentional irony: the ONLY reason I started commenting on this thread was the Pirate fan chest-beating about being the tallest midget, P5-beater category. #fakepiratenews.
So if you want to get the pirate chorus going that ECU is NOT the tallest midget I will listen to that song all night.

I am now officially looking forward to 2020 and scoring another 66 points at Dowdy Ficklen.

ECU belongs with Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, and Southern Miss. Nothing they have done since entering the AAC has shown otherwise... in fact its been just the opposite. No investment... They've divested.
OTOH, Tulane has been investing. New coaches in the main sports. They'll right the ship with time.

[Image: DXfE44M.png]

unBalancedMan seems to be trying to make a career of ECU bashing. Tulane? Has any school ever done so little with so much. All-time football record ranks 108th. 3-11 all-time against ECU. 2 winning seasons this century. No investment? I'll have some of what he's smoking. Last I looked, ECU had a new football coach, a third year baseball coach doing pretty well, new basketball coach will be coming soon. Maybe he's feeling butt hurt over ΣΦΕ reprobates getting kicked out of ECU this year.

BC1 is just feeling bad over Cincy trailing ECU in all-time winning percentage and having an 8-12 record against ECU. He really loves us. It's just his persona.
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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 09:03 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  ECU shouldn't be in the AAC....

I vote kick out ECU and Tulane

we can keep Tulsa because we need a whipping boy and that gazeebo is so cute

Lol what are those on field results again?

See this is why Pony is a supervisor at the ol' Whip and you're still entry level, you think you're a winner, but everyone else is better.

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RE: AAC will never measure up to Power 5
(07-12-2017 08:41 AM)pcm0103 Wrote:  This guy must have some issues with the AAC.

As a conference, the American is never going to get to the top level. But a few of its teams, like USF, possess the resources to get there on their own. And that starts with beating Power 5 conference teams. Consistently.

So far, nobody’s been able to do that.


http://www.theledger.com/sports/20170701...to-power-5


Thank you for telling me what I already know.
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(07-12-2017 11:12 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:05 AM)vcoog Wrote:  I don't buy the whole premise.. it says UCF and UH 'fumbled the ball' in reguards to national relevancy.. This might be the case if UCF had lost to baylor and UH had lost to FSU, but the fact that both teams won demonstrated that the aac teams deserved their top 15/top 10 rankings that season. And UH's " mediocre 9-4 " season last year included two top 5 wins and at one point a top 5 ranking. You can argue we fumbled down the stretch but you can't argue we didn't demonstrate competing with the p5.. I also wouldn't limit the teams to UH UCF and South Florida. There are a few teams in this league that haven't had a pulse in football, but it's out of the norm, not the other way around. The American has surpassed expectations.

No G5 has ever reached the top 10 in a single CFP ranking. The first CFP ranking waitd weeks before even ranking an undefeated Marshall. In year 3 of the CFP, an undefeated G5 with wins over 2 P5's was not even top 10 worthy per the committee. In fact, the committee saw fit to place an undefeated W Michigan, with 2 P5 wins, behind every single 3 loss P5 (plus WMU was even ranked behind one FOUR-loss P5). Based on that, it would appear almost impossible for a G5 to get into the top 10---much less the top 4.

I dont think the guys on the selection committee even see themselves as unethical. The issue is the guys on the committee are all the same guy, cut from the same cloth, possessing the exact the same point of view. They all are P5 guys who truly believe it really isnt possible for a G5 team to be a legit top 10 team. Until the selection committee is made up of one representative from every FBS conference, the chance of a G5 crashing the playoff party is essentially zero.

I think we're blowing this a little out of proportion. The fact of the matter is that we haven't produced a team good enough to crack the top 4.

WMU didn't play a tough enough schedule, same with Marshall. Houston got up to (was it 7?) before racking up 4 losses. I think they would have spurred some argument had they kept it to 0 losses or 1 (quality) loss. Instead, they lost 4 games to division teams, many of which were unranked with losses to bad P5 teams.

I'm going to wait until we're clearly snubbed before jumping on this train.



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(07-14-2017 06:10 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:12 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:05 AM)vcoog Wrote:  I don't buy the whole premise.. it says UCF and UH 'fumbled the ball' in reguards to national relevancy.. This might be the case if UCF had lost to baylor and UH had lost to FSU, but the fact that both teams won demonstrated that the aac teams deserved their top 15/top 10 rankings that season. And UH's " mediocre 9-4 " season last year included two top 5 wins and at one point a top 5 ranking. You can argue we fumbled down the stretch but you can't argue we didn't demonstrate competing with the p5.. I also wouldn't limit the teams to UH UCF and South Florida. There are a few teams in this league that haven't had a pulse in football, but it's out of the norm, not the other way around. The American has surpassed expectations.

No G5 has ever reached the top 10 in a single CFP ranking. The first CFP ranking waitd weeks before even ranking an undefeated Marshall. In year 3 of the CFP, an undefeated G5 with wins over 2 P5's was not even top 10 worthy per the committee. In fact, the committee saw fit to place an undefeated W Michigan, with 2 P5 wins, behind every single 3 loss P5 (plus WMU was even ranked behind one FOUR-loss P5). Based on that, it would appear almost impossible for a G5 to get into the top 10---much less the top 4.

I dont think the guys on the selection committee even see themselves as unethical. The issue is the guys on the committee are all the same guy, cut from the same cloth, possessing the exact the same point of view. They all are P5 guys who truly believe it really isnt possible for a G5 team to be a legit top 10 team. Until the selection committee is made up of one representative from every FBS conference, the chance of a G5 crashing the playoff party is essentially zero.

I think we're blowing this a little out of proportion. The fact of the matter is that we haven't produced a team good enough to crack the top 4.

WMU didn't play a tough enough schedule, same with Marshall. Houston got up to (was it 7?) before racking up 4 losses. I think they would have spurred some argument had they kept it to 0 losses or 1 (quality) loss. Instead, they lost 4 games to division teams, many of which were unranked with losses to bad P5 teams.

I'm going to wait until we're clearly snubbed before jumping on this train.



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Maybe...maybe not. Perhaps not top 4---but I do personally believe we have produced teams at least deserving of top 10 status.
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(07-14-2017 11:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 06:10 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:12 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:05 AM)vcoog Wrote:  I don't buy the whole premise.. it says UCF and UH 'fumbled the ball' in reguards to national relevancy.. This might be the case if UCF had lost to baylor and UH had lost to FSU, but the fact that both teams won demonstrated that the aac teams deserved their top 15/top 10 rankings that season. And UH's " mediocre 9-4 " season last year included two top 5 wins and at one point a top 5 ranking. You can argue we fumbled down the stretch but you can't argue we didn't demonstrate competing with the p5.. I also wouldn't limit the teams to UH UCF and South Florida. There are a few teams in this league that haven't had a pulse in football, but it's out of the norm, not the other way around. The American has surpassed expectations.

No G5 has ever reached the top 10 in a single CFP ranking. The first CFP ranking waitd weeks before even ranking an undefeated Marshall. In year 3 of the CFP, an undefeated G5 with wins over 2 P5's was not even top 10 worthy per the committee. In fact, the committee saw fit to place an undefeated W Michigan, with 2 P5 wins, behind every single 3 loss P5 (plus WMU was even ranked behind one FOUR-loss P5). Based on that, it would appear almost impossible for a G5 to get into the top 10---much less the top 4.

I dont think the guys on the selection committee even see themselves as unethical. The issue is the guys on the committee are all the same guy, cut from the same cloth, possessing the exact the same point of view. They all are P5 guys who truly believe it really isnt possible for a G5 team to be a legit top 10 team. Until the selection committee is made up of one representative from every FBS conference, the chance of a G5 crashing the playoff party is essentially zero.

I think we're blowing this a little out of proportion. The fact of the matter is that we haven't produced a team good enough to crack the top 4.

WMU didn't play a tough enough schedule, same with Marshall. Houston got up to (was it 7?) before racking up 4 losses. I think they would have spurred some argument had they kept it to 0 losses or 1 (quality) loss. Instead, they lost 4 games to division teams, many of which were unranked with losses to bad P5 teams.

I'm going to wait until we're clearly snubbed before jumping on this train.



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Maybe...maybe not. Perhaps not top 4---but I do personally believe we have produced teams at least deserving of top 10 status.


UCF was in the final AP top 10. Have we had any other decent 1-loss teams? Houston went 13-1 in 2015, lost to a 6-6 UConn, and still ended up 8th.


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(07-13-2017 09:34 AM)Underdog Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:30 PM)BalancedManSPE Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 08:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:44 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 12:15 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  The discussion is about those without the resource advantages being able to consistently win against those with the resource advantages. You got BCS money while in the Big East, so any wins over other Big East teams are irrelevant to the point. 2006 Navy win over Edsall-coached, Big East funded UConn does count.

It's not that hard.

Congratulations, you are the tallest midget.

Ha ha ha on the ECU unintentional irony: the ONLY reason I started commenting on this thread was the Pirate fan chest-beating about being the tallest midget, P5-beater category. #fakepiratenews.
So if you want to get the pirate chorus going that ECU is NOT the tallest midget I will listen to that song all night.

I am now officially looking forward to 2020 and scoring another 66 points at Dowdy Ficklen.

ECU belongs with Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, and Southern Miss. Nothing they have done since entering the AAC has shown otherwise... in fact its been just the opposite. No investment... They've divested.
OTOH, Tulane has been investing. New coaches in the main sports. They'll right the ship with time.

[Image: DXfE44M.png]

Had me crying tears because I laughed so hard...(+2) and provided a map...(+2) of the new "Power 7 Conference" (if you include UAB and F_U)... L03-rotflL....

Wait wait wait...Tulane facilities and attendence compared to ECU? Tulane?? Hahahaha...hahahahaha
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(07-14-2017 01:03 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 11:20 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-14-2017 06:10 AM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:12 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 11:05 AM)vcoog Wrote:  I don't buy the whole premise.. it says UCF and UH 'fumbled the ball' in reguards to national relevancy.. This might be the case if UCF had lost to baylor and UH had lost to FSU, but the fact that both teams won demonstrated that the aac teams deserved their top 15/top 10 rankings that season. And UH's " mediocre 9-4 " season last year included two top 5 wins and at one point a top 5 ranking. You can argue we fumbled down the stretch but you can't argue we didn't demonstrate competing with the p5.. I also wouldn't limit the teams to UH UCF and South Florida. There are a few teams in this league that haven't had a pulse in football, but it's out of the norm, not the other way around. The American has surpassed expectations.

No G5 has ever reached the top 10 in a single CFP ranking. The first CFP ranking waitd weeks before even ranking an undefeated Marshall. In year 3 of the CFP, an undefeated G5 with wins over 2 P5's was not even top 10 worthy per the committee. In fact, the committee saw fit to place an undefeated W Michigan, with 2 P5 wins, behind every single 3 loss P5 (plus WMU was even ranked behind one FOUR-loss P5). Based on that, it would appear almost impossible for a G5 to get into the top 10---much less the top 4.

I dont think the guys on the selection committee even see themselves as unethical. The issue is the guys on the committee are all the same guy, cut from the same cloth, possessing the exact the same point of view. They all are P5 guys who truly believe it really isnt possible for a G5 team to be a legit top 10 team. Until the selection committee is made up of one representative from every FBS conference, the chance of a G5 crashing the playoff party is essentially zero.

I think we're blowing this a little out of proportion. The fact of the matter is that we haven't produced a team good enough to crack the top 4.

WMU didn't play a tough enough schedule, same with Marshall. Houston got up to (was it 7?) before racking up 4 losses. I think they would have spurred some argument had they kept it to 0 losses or 1 (quality) loss. Instead, they lost 4 games to division teams, many of which were unranked with losses to bad P5 teams.

I'm going to wait until we're clearly snubbed before jumping on this train.



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Maybe...maybe not. Perhaps not top 4---but I do personally believe we have produced teams at least deserving of top 10 status.


UCF was in the final AP top 10. Have we had any other decent 1-loss teams? Houston went 13-1 in 2015, lost to a 6-6 UConn, and still ended up 8th.


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AP and coaches polls aren't the problem. My comments are ONLY concerning the CFP Selection Committee, where in 3 years no G5 has EVER been ranked any higher than an undefeated Memphis was at 13th.

Despite multiple undefeated G5 teams appearing in multiple CFP Rankings, no G5 has cracked the top ten. A G5 can't do any better than undefeated and that has yet to be deemed as worthy of top 10 status by the committee (much less top 4 status).
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(07-14-2017 08:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 09:34 AM)Underdog Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:30 PM)BalancedManSPE Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 08:11 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 06:44 PM)Purplehook Wrote:  Congratulations, you are the tallest midget.

Ha ha ha on the ECU unintentional irony: the ONLY reason I started commenting on this thread was the Pirate fan chest-beating about being the tallest midget, P5-beater category. #fakepiratenews.
So if you want to get the pirate chorus going that ECU is NOT the tallest midget I will listen to that song all night.

I am now officially looking forward to 2020 and scoring another 66 points at Dowdy Ficklen.

ECU belongs with Marshall, ODU, Charlotte, and Southern Miss. Nothing they have done since entering the AAC has shown otherwise... in fact its been just the opposite. No investment... They've divested.
OTOH, Tulane has been investing. New coaches in the main sports. They'll right the ship with time.

[Image: DXfE44M.png]

Had me crying tears because I laughed so hard...(+2) and provided a map...(+2) of the new "Power 7 Conference" (if you include UAB and F_U)... L03-rotflL....

Wait wait wait...Tulane facilities and attendence compared to ECU? Tulane?? Hahahaha...hahahahaha

I know... but BalancedManSPE smack talking ECU was funny as heck....
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