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See no reason to change anything at the moment.
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CUSA adding teams make no sense. SB teams leaving for CUSA makes even less. SB can easily say they should be getting paid as much as CUSA if not more. It would make more sense of CUSA left to go to the SB but I think with the recent news of the ULAR football study, it makes even more logic by staying at 10. SB has left two positions for Little Rock and UT-Arlington direct paths to the FBS, can or do they take will be the question. Those are the only two schools with a direct path to FBS. Not even WSU with their move to the AAC has such a direct path because the AAC basically told them it would need voted on. Some SBC fans can verify but I think UT-A and ULAR basically have open invites if they create football programs.
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Any chance that CUSA had to "poach" or cherry pick programs from another FBS died when the new TV contract came out. That was a hard dose of reality that leveled things out.
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(07-11-2017 12:05 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  CONTRACT: send Fla schools back

LOL. To where?

FIU and FAU weren't great fits with the Belt. They aren't even that close to any of our other programs. FAU is almost 500 miles from Ga Southern. Beyond that, it gets pretty nasty.

Coastal Carolina is closer to NYC than Miami.
Mobile is about as close to Indianapolis than it is to Miami
Georgia State is closer to St Louis or Indianapolis than Boca Raton
Troy is closer to Cincinnati than it is to Boca Raton.

Only one or two of our teams really recruit South Florida. We don't have much of a rivalry tie either.
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FAU and FIU won't be contracted because that doesn't happen to full members that aren't in grave condition (UTPA, probably Chicago State), but if they were to, ahem, be separated from CUSA, they'd probably have to go indy in football and the Atlantic Sun in other sports. Unless you could gin up a Gulf Coast D1 conference out of whole cloth, but at best it'd be a bastard hybrid of the A-Sun and Southland and thus, why bother? I guess if you wanted to play Realignment Risk, you could have an FBS conference of FIU, FAU, South Alabama, Troy, Southern Miss, Louisiana Lafayette, Rice and a moved-up UTRGV. But other than that last school, who would willingly join?

So yeah, FAU and FIU are always going to be awkward conference fits no matter where they go. That's the inherent issue with existing in America's Ding-Dong.
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Chicago St is on a contract with the WAC, and it likely won't be renewed.

No idea if Pan American was on a contract with Sun Belt (is that what you were saying?), but I don't think UTRGV is on a contract with the WAC currently. Could be wrong though ...
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(07-13-2017 01:42 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Chicago St is on a contract with the WAC, and it likely won't be renewed.

No idea if Pan American was on a contract with Sun Belt (is that what you were saying?), but I don't think UTRGV is on a contract with the WAC currently. Could be wrong though ...

I meant UTPA being evicted/forced out of the Sun Belt back in 1999, I want to say? To the best of my knowledge, that is the only time in recent history that a full member of a D-1 conference was ejected/forced out (depending on how you view VCU/Va. Tech and the Metro, though I think legally that was the remaining Metro schools dissolving the conference and helping start CUSA).
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Wish VCU starts a football program. They could be in FBS because of their basketball and being in Richmond.

Marquette's AD said a few years ago saying that no to football because it would cost a lot of money to even go into FBS. The students want it, but they said it could be in the Pioneer League.
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(07-13-2017 03:28 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  Wish VCU starts a football program. They could be in FBS because of their basketball and being in Richmond.

Marquette's AD said a few years ago saying that no to football because it would cost a lot of money to even go into FBS. The students want it, but they said it could be in the Pioneer League.

VCU will almost certainly not start football in a very long time; probably not in my lifetime. Too many issues (landlocked campus and nowhere to build a football stadium even close to campus, funding and limits on student fees recently implemented, Title IX issues, downgrade in conference if they start football, since they'd almost certainly have to join CUSA or the Sun Belt and that's a big drop from the A-10).

Stop bringing up VCU as a football possibility. It's not happening.
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(07-13-2017 11:36 AM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 12:05 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  CONTRACT: send Fla schools back

LOL. To where?

FIU and FAU weren't great fits with the Belt. They aren't even that close to any of our other programs. FAU is almost 500 miles from Ga Southern. Beyond that, it gets pretty nasty.

Coastal Carolina is closer to NYC than Miami.
Mobile is about as close to Indianapolis than it is to Miami
Georgia State is closer to St Louis or Indianapolis than Boca Raton
Troy is closer to Cincinnati than it is to Boca Raton.

Only one or two of our teams really recruit South Florida. We don't have much of a rivalry tie either.

Just my .02 but I wouldn't mind one Florida school. I would rather split the F_Us up. I'm not sure how a conference would feel about that. I know they fiit the travel pair paradigm to a tee. I just think they are way too close physically and athletically for each other to grow. If I had to choose I'd go with FAU (I like being the only Panthers). Plus you can partner the two of us because we have easy flights available.
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(07-11-2017 08:58 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:22 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I don't get these 3 divison setups. They don't work for college football.

I'm not a fan of 3 divisions either. If a conference really wants to have a wild card team for an expanded conference playoff, it can easily achieve this with 2 divisions. The playoff would be between the 2 division winners (top seeds) and the 2 best non-division-winners (1 vs. 4, 2 vs. 3). Or if a conference reaches 16 teams, go to 4 divisions and have the 4 champs face off in the conference playoff.

The beauty of a three division system is that it prevents a weak division champion from reaching the title game. You still only hold a single title game, except you only take the best two division winners.
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(07-11-2017 07:01 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  Get the votes to allow conferences larger than 14 teams to have 3 divisions and a semifinal round of playoffs. THEN, add Appy State, Georgia Southern, Arkansas State, ULaLa, and setup like this:

Appy State
Marshall
Charlotte
ODU
WKU
MTU

USM
La Tech
UAB
GSU
FIU
FAU

ULaLa
UTSA
Rice
UTEP
ASU
UNT

3 division winners and wild card. That's tight geographically and you add the Arkansas and Georgia TV markets along with adding to Louisiana and Tennessee coverage.

Who is ths Appy State you speak of? 05-mafia
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(07-13-2017 07:31 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:42 PM)panama Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Does anyone have solid numbers for what C-USA schools are bringing in each year versus what the Sunbelt does?

There seems to be some conception from Sunbelt folks that somehow the Sunbelt as currently configured is better than C-USA. It's my opinion that while C-USA is oversized and would be better off slit in two with each side raiding the Sunbelt for a few additional members they have superior programs.

All 4 Texas C-USA schools have better programs than Texas St.
I would argue that ULL and Arkansas St are on par with LA Tech but LA Twch seems to think otherwise since they avoided them during their stint in the WAC.
ULM is one of the poorest funded FBS schools in the nation
On the Gulf Coast USM trumps USA for longevity and tradition
While UAB plays in an old off campus stadium they are in a much more attractive market than Troy
The Charlotte and Georgia St programs are about equivalent as start ups in big markets--one has a dinky but brand new stadium the other a retrofitted baseball field
Coastal and the F_U twins are somewhat similar but the F_Us have a big head start on the Chanticleers
That leaves Georgia Southern and App St in the Sunbelt and WKU, MTSU, Marshall, and ODU in C-USA. The SBC schools have storied FCS pasts but so does Marshall. I'd say the value of those 4 trumps the value of the SBCs pair
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(07-13-2017 05:39 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:58 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:22 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I don't get these 3 divison setups. They don't work for college football.

I'm not a fan of 3 divisions either. If a conference really wants to have a wild card team for an expanded conference playoff, it can easily achieve this with 2 divisions. The playoff would be between the 2 division winners (top seeds) and the 2 best non-division-winners (1 vs. 4, 2 vs. 3). Or if a conference reaches 16 teams, go to 4 divisions and have the 4 champs face off in the conference playoff.

The beauty of a three division system is that it prevents a weak division champion from reaching the title game. You still only hold a single title game, except you only take the best two division winners.

too much controversy. what if the 'weakest' division is actually the strongest? There is the argument that if you played in our division you wouldn't have the same record type of thing. The division champ of the left out division will always have an argument regardless and the conference would be unstable with 3 divisions.
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(07-13-2017 08:11 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 05:39 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:58 AM)Nerdlinger Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:22 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I don't get these 3 divison setups. They don't work for college football.

I'm not a fan of 3 divisions either. If a conference really wants to have a wild card team for an expanded conference playoff, it can easily achieve this with 2 divisions. The playoff would be between the 2 division winners (top seeds) and the 2 best non-division-winners (1 vs. 4, 2 vs. 3). Or if a conference reaches 16 teams, go to 4 divisions and have the 4 champs face off in the conference playoff.

The beauty of a three division system is that it prevents a weak division champion from reaching the title game. You still only hold a single title game, except you only take the best two division winners.

too much controversy. what if the 'weakest' division is actually the strongest? There is the argument that if you played in our division you wouldn't have the same record type of thing. The division champ of the left out division will always have an argument regardless and the conference would be unstable with 3 divisions.

I was going to say. The "weakest" of the three champions might be from the weakest division, which means they'll have an inflated record and get in over a better team with a worse record (or worse, they get in because of a convoluted tiebreaker). You could have a four-team tournament, but you're moving the convoluted tiebreaker issue to the wild-card spot and you're making a mess of the end of the schedule, and for what purpose?
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(07-11-2017 08:10 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 06:20 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 02:22 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Each G5 conference gets $10 million from the CFP regardless of the amount of teams.
Strictly speaking, it's $1m/school for up to 10 FB schools ... but now that Coastal Carolina has brought the SBC up to 10 FB schools, it's $10m all around.

Quote: Going to 16 makes no sense, but for the sake of this discussion Georgia State and Texas State would be great additions. Two large schools in large markets and a lot of upside with both schools. Adding Texas State would mean that CUSA was in every large market in Texas. That can't be a bad thing.

So, to summarize: silly premise, not the silliest of picks given the silly premise.

(07-10-2017 10:53 PM)BalancedManSPE Wrote:  
(07-10-2017 10:47 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Are you high? Has the ATF raided your supply?

Status quo isn't working so well.

You either expand or contract and I think contraction will be a lot harder than expansion.
The flaw in the logic here is that it treats the reason that the status quo is not "working so well" as something unique about 14, instead of being too large with greater travel costs for no substantial benefit. Expanding certainly is easier than contraction, the problem is that expansion with any available pair of schools does not fix the problems of the current alignment ... it just makes them worse.

Coastal Carolina will bring the Sun Belt to 12 teams this season. Once NMSU and Idaho are gone, the conference goes to ten schools or an even $1 million per school.

It is a silly premise. Going to 16 makes no sense for CUSA and for a school leaving the Sun Belt there is a $2 million exit fee and joining CUSA will cost a $2 million entry fee. It makes no sense for this to happen. It is a fantasy scenario.

Agreed!!!!! Thank heaven, I'm not the only one who thinks these sixteen team conferences are dumb!!!! Yay!! Please forward this to the SEC and the Big Ten as well please. (I'm being dead serious!!!)
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(07-13-2017 08:47 PM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 08:10 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 06:20 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  
(07-11-2017 02:22 AM)SoCalBobcat78 Wrote:  Each G5 conference gets $10 million from the CFP regardless of the amount of teams.
Strictly speaking, it's $1m/school for up to 10 FB schools ... but now that Coastal Carolina has brought the SBC up to 10 FB schools, it's $10m all around.

Quote: Going to 16 makes no sense, but for the sake of this discussion Georgia State and Texas State would be great additions. Two large schools in large markets and a lot of upside with both schools. Adding Texas State would mean that CUSA was in every large market in Texas. That can't be a bad thing.

So, to summarize: silly premise, not the silliest of picks given the silly premise.

(07-10-2017 10:53 PM)BalancedManSPE Wrote:  
(07-10-2017 10:47 PM)PirateTreasureNC Wrote:  Are you high? Has the ATF raided your supply?

Status quo isn't working so well.

You either expand or contract and I think contraction will be a lot harder than expansion.
The flaw in the logic here is that it treats the reason that the status quo is not "working so well" as something unique about 14, instead of being too large with greater travel costs for no substantial benefit. Expanding certainly is easier than contraction, the problem is that expansion with any available pair of schools does not fix the problems of the current alignment ... it just makes them worse.

Coastal Carolina will bring the Sun Belt to 12 teams this season. Once NMSU and Idaho are gone, the conference goes to ten schools or an even $1 million per school.

It is a silly premise. Going to 16 makes no sense for CUSA and for a school leaving the Sun Belt there is a $2 million exit fee and joining CUSA will cost a $2 million entry fee. It makes no sense for this to happen. It is a fantasy scenario.

Agreed!!!!! Thank heaven, I'm not the only one who thinks these sixteen team conferences are dumb!!!! Yay!! Please forward this to the SEC and the Big Ten as well please. (I'm being dead serious!!!)

I wonder what would have happened if the MWC schools wouldn't have bolted and truly gave the WAC 16 from 1996-1998 a chance? The 4 pods were geographically, historically and competitively accurate.
TCU, SMU, Rice, Tulsa-Pod 1
Utah, BYU, New Mexico, UTEP-Pod 2
Air Force, Colorado St, Wyoming, UNLV-Pod 3
San Diego St, Fresno St, San Jose St, Hawaii-Pod 4
I think they were really on to something and didn't realize it. That was not a bad lineup at all. I count at least 9 bowl games in that lineup and a "WAC TV" network would have been fun haha
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(07-13-2017 02:40 PM)Cyniclone Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 01:42 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Chicago St is on a contract with the WAC, and it likely won't be renewed.

No idea if Pan American was on a contract with Sun Belt (is that what you were saying?), but I don't think UTRGV is on a contract with the WAC currently. Could be wrong though ...

I meant UTPA being evicted/forced out of the Sun Belt back in 1999, I want to say? To the best of my knowledge, that is the only time in recent history that a full member of a D-1 conference was ejected/forced out (depending on how you view VCU/Va. Tech and the Metro, though I think legally that was the remaining Metro schools dissolving the conference and helping start CUSA).

UTPA was ejected from the Sun Belt for the following reason. UTPA was under NCAA investigation. The charges were serious but not enough to warrant the death penalty. However, UTPA elected to lobby for the NCAA to give their OWN program the death penalty, because they didn't want to pay their basketball coach the buy out he was entitled to. The NCAA didn't give UTPA the death penalty. The Sun Belt, rightly seeing this as yet another example of UTPA's non-support of their own program, gave UTPA a choice....leave now or be ejected at the next Conference meeting. UTPA chose to leave.

I would be surprised if Va Tech was really ejected from the Metro/CUSA. The A-10 offered them a bid, and didn't mess up their Big East football membership, which probably was at least a lateral move.
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(07-13-2017 07:36 PM)panama Wrote:  
(07-13-2017 07:31 AM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 09:42 PM)panama Wrote:  
(07-12-2017 05:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Does anyone have solid numbers for what C-USA schools are bringing in each year versus what the Sunbelt does?

There seems to be some conception from Sunbelt folks that somehow the Sunbelt as currently configured is better than C-USA. It's my opinion that while C-USA is oversized and would be better off slit in two with each side raiding the Sunbelt for a few additional members they have superior programs.

All 4 Texas C-USA schools have better programs than Texas St.
I would argue that ULL and Arkansas St are on par with LA Tech but LA Twch seems to think otherwise since they avoided them during their stint in the WAC.
ULM is one of the poorest funded FBS schools in the nation
On the Gulf Coast USM trumps USA for longevity and tradition
While UAB plays in an old off campus stadium they are in a much more attractive market than Troy
The Charlotte and Georgia St programs are about equivalent as start ups in big markets--one has a dinky but brand new stadium the other a retrofitted baseball field
Coastal and the F_U twins are somewhat similar but the F_Us have a big head start on the Chanticleers
That leaves Georgia Southern and App St in the Sunbelt and WKU, MTSU, Marshall, and ODU in C-USA. The SBC schools have storied FCS pasts but so does Marshall. I'd say the value of those 4 trumps the value of the SBCs pair


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Silly season post in silly season thread? Which part of your post was not conjecture or opinion? As for our retrofitted baseball field...it's a bit more than that...

I thought I gave a pretty objective program by program comparison of the two leagues. I'm a Big Ten/MAC Midwesterner so it's not like I have a vested interest in C-USA. For the record, I like what Georgia St is doing with Turner and have been following your construction thread. I was merely pointing out that what Charlotte has is brand new but has a tiny capacity while Georgia St is remodeling an existing facility built for the 1996 Olympics. I know you're proud of the Sunbelt because it's your league but C-USA has programs with stronger histories and a presence in more big markets than the SBC. The leagues would never agree to this because it would involve tweaking too many schedules and risking too much pride but I'd love to see a regular season challenge between the two leagues.
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(07-12-2017 05:59 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  Does anyone have solid numbers for what C-USA schools are bringing in each year versus what the Sunbelt does?

There seems to be some conception from Sunbelt folks that somehow the Sunbelt as currently configured is better than C-USA. It's my opinion that while C-USA is oversized and would be better off slit in two with each side raiding the Sunbelt for a few additional members they have superior programs.

All 4 Texas C-USA schools have better programs than Texas St.
I would argue that ULL and Arkansas St are on par with LA Tech but LA Twch seems to think otherwise since they avoided them during their stint in the WAC.
ULM is one of the poorest funded FBS schools in the nation
On the Gulf Coast USM trumps USA for longevity and tradition
While UAB plays in an old off campus stadium they are in a much more attractive market than Troy
The Charlotte and Georgia St programs are about equivalent as start ups in big markets--one has a dinky but brand new stadium the other a retrofitted baseball field
Coastal and the F_U twins are somewhat similar but the F_Us have a big head start on the Chanticleers
That leaves Georgia Southern and App St in the Sunbelt and WKU, MTSU, Marshall, and ODU in C-USA. The SBC schools have storied FCS pasts but so does Marshall. I'd say the value of those 4 trumps the value of the SBCs pair

Just my opinion:

"All 4 Texas C-USA schools have better programs than Texas St."
Well, that depends on your idea of better. Texas St has only been TEXAS STATE and FBS for 4 years. 3/4 from CUSA has had decades to get marginally ahead. I dare say that Rice and UTEP's appeal appear to be dwindling instead of growing.
Give Texas State's 40k students and local residents another decade of growth under that name and with that campus and I guarantee they will rise to the top of that list. Texas St has nothing but huge upside. I think we will look back in a decade and say, "dang, old Benson got that one right". Adding the Bobcats was a smart move.
"I would argue that ULL and Arkansas St are on par with LA Tech but LA Tech seems to think otherwise since they avoided them during their stint in the WAC."
Again, on par maybe. But would I trade what Louisiana and Arkansas St are doing and building for where LA Tech is? No way do I make that trade.
"ULM is one of the poorest funded FBS schools in the nation."
Ok, this is true. Actually the poorest. At least they are competitive.
"On the Gulf Coast USM trumps USA for longevity and tradition."
As of right now, correct. But I see USA in Mobile, with their medical school and growth potential capturing much more of the panhandle fans in the future than USM. Have to look long term.
"While UAB plays in an old off campus stadium they are in a much more attractive market than Troy."
The market is literally all they have. Troy's football program and facilities far surpass UAB at this juncture. Tell Auburn they have no attractive market.
"The Charlotte and Georgia St programs are about equivalent as start ups in big markets--one has a dinky but brand new stadium the other a retrofitted baseball field."
True. But they are 1/7 FBS schools in state and GSU is 1/4. I think we are a lot less likely to get lost in the shuffle. I know I'm biased but I anticipate having more long term success than the 49ers.
"Coastal and the F_U twins are somewhat similar but the F_Us have a big head start on the Chanticleers."
Nah, I disagree. Coastal won't need long at all to be where those two currently are. Not to mention they're in a unique FBS market. The FL Twins have been having a rough go of it recently. I like the FL recruiting angle but I think CCU is another rising star.
"That leaves Georgia Southern and App St in the Sunbelt and WKU, MTSU, Marshall, and ODU in C-USA. The SBC schools have storied FCS pasts but so does Marshall. I'd say the value of those 4 trumps the value of the SBCs pair." Well yeah, I suppose 4 is better than 2 but that's an unfair premise. What about paired up? Who has the better 2 programs?
A.) GS and App
B.) MTSU and WKU
C.) Marshall and ODU
Now it's not so clear. As a matter of fact there's no clear cut answer. I'm sure someone on here could argue for all 3.
I just don't see where CUSA has a big advantage anymore. I think our 2 conferences are more evenly keeled than not but there certainly isn't an advantage like was suggested after the last realignment. Nothing personal, just my perspective.
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