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Exclamation Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
NDA = high road. 03-lmfao
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
(07-08-2017 12:33 PM)Memphis Blazer Wrote:  NDA = high road. 03-lmfao

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Is he some sort of hero all of the sudden? Give me a break. The guy took the cash and kept his mouth shut.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
Which one of us would have supported he and his family had he not accepted it? And who is to say some of the stuff that did come to light was not in some way because of him?
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
If you familiar with the responsibilities of being a high level administrator/cabinet member in college - your first duty is confidentiality. Sometimes this duty is imposed by law such as student or medical records or it can simply be ethics. This duty is not just to the president but to the institution itself. You may or may not like the President personally or his actions. Your duty is to advise the President and it can take guts but to even tell the President he/she is wrong. If you strongly disagree with a President - your ultimate protest is to resign your position.

This is the way how I was trained I actually greatly admired Brian conduct during this disaster. He took much abuse for keeping his silence in Public as his personal ethics demanded. Then making the most important protest by resigning and losing your families longterm livelyhood
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
(07-08-2017 02:56 PM)ICB Wrote:  Which one of us would have supported he and his family had he not accepted it? And who is to say some of the stuff that did come to light was not in some way because of him?

a) As I've described in some detail, I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for the "have to put food on your family" argument from those making multiple six figures.

b) I am reasonably sure that Brian Mackin fulfilled the terms of his bizarre NDA.

And while he disappointed me at the time, I do appreciate that he timed his resignation perfectly to throw Ray Watts under a 280-pound bus named Tristan Henderson.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
(07-08-2017 02:56 PM)ICB Wrote:  Which one of us would have supported he and his family had he not accepted it? And who is to say some of the stuff that did come to light was not in some way because of him?

He landed a job with PNC Bank almost immediately after walking out on us. And assuredly they were not paying pennies. He left UAB with a brown sack full of cash, a job at PNC and was never to be seen or heard from again......until now.

I truly believe (at least want to) that Brian Mackin wanted to save UAB football. I just feel that when the writing was on the wall he only looked out for the best deal for himself.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
Brian was in an impossible situation. I have to agree with Kevin on this one. If he had taken the path some on here have advocated he could have gone scorched earth, walked away with nothing and completely killed any chance of ever being in athletic administration again. He chose to fight another day. That day has come.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
As to never to be seen again, I have seen Brian at multiple UAB games since then. That would include MBB at Bartow, the tournament at the BJCC, and the NCAA game in Louisville.

I was as mad as anyone with Mackin, but I have mellowed. He was in a horrible situation, and it would not surprise me in the least he knew something about some of the document leaks at a very inopportune time for Ray and the BoT.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
Everyone who wants/wanted Brian Mackin to sing like a bird and "well he made enough money so I don't buy the he has a family argument" need to live in the real world and dislodge your heads from your backside. You may be capable/willing to throw your career down the toilet, it doesn't mean everyone is
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
Is he able to talk now? Do NDA's expire?
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
(07-09-2017 07:29 AM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  Is he able to talk now? Do NDA's expire?

Maybe his did, maybe it didn't, but I wouldn't expect him to start talking. He's not going to start trash talking a member of the conference of which he is the second in charge. What is he going to say that we don't already know anyway? What would we get except the satisfaction of him spitting in Ray Watts face? If he went around trash talking UAB, we'd learn nothing new and he'd become basically unemployable, because no one is going to hire an executive that runs their mouth like that. If he had any actual evidence of something illegal, which is the only interesting thing he could realistically have, then that would be different, and wouldn't have been subject to an NDA anyway
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
(07-08-2017 11:10 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  Everyone who wants/wanted Brian Mackin to sing like a bird and "well he made enough money so I don't buy the he has a family argument" need to live in the real world and dislodge your heads from your backside. You may be capable/willing to throw your career down the toilet, it doesn't mean everyone is

From each according to his/her ability.

Brian Mackin was never going to fight on the barricades. It's simply not his way. We raised other heroes from our ranks who did.

The "family" argument - which Mackin himself has never raised, to my knowledge - is cowardly. Stand and fight, or admit that you have one of those wriggly jelly-like fishing lures where your spine is supposed to be, but don't hide behind "family." And if he actually believed it, which I doubt with good reason, he resigned anyway and did so at a vital moment.

I am very satisfied with Brian Mackin's role. The Wattzis made so many mistakes, and so many enemies, that we didn't need him to sing. And if he had, it could easily have been spun as the mewlings of a disgruntled employee, a personal personnel matter (granted, that would have required semi-competent management of their effort). He followed his obligations when his superiors did not, when others wished him to break his word.

And had he broken his word, he would not be at the CUSA offices, and Mark Ingram would not be fumbling his doughnut with anxiety every time he has to phone Dallas. He's going to have to shake his hand. In public. This is going to be fun.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
(07-08-2017 02:56 PM)ICB Wrote:  Which one of us would have supported he and his family had he not accepted it? And who is to say some of the stuff that did come to light was not in some way because of him?

From what I was hearing at the time, there was a pretty decent money pool that could have been offered as a safety net had he not signed it. But like a lot of things that happened around then and even still now, it could have just been people blowing smoke.

My distaste for Brian Mackin didn't come from his signing an NDA and removing himself from the situation at the end of it. It comes from how he acted towards boosters, coaches, and players from the mid-point of the season going forward.
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(07-09-2017 08:22 AM)58-56 Wrote:  The "family" argument - which Mackin himself has never raised, to my knowledge - is cowardly. Stand and fight, or admit that you have one of those wriggly jelly-like fishing lures where your spine is supposed to be, but don't hide behind "family." And if he actually believed it, which I doubt with good reason, he resigned anyway and did so at a vital moment.

Brian Mackin has been silent, so we don't know why he did or didn't fight, get pissed off, go on TV and the radio, blah blah blah. But, all of this talk about "why didn't he stand up and fight" or why did he resign, all seem to forget that while Mackin is a UAB graduate, this was a job for him, and it was and is his career. It's not a hobby or political position that he was elected to. He wasn't President, he wasn't a County Commissioner. I'll keep saying it until this topic finally dies, but the willingness of people to tell someone else how they should or should not conduct their career, which they might want to continue on, is pretty crass. If you're willing to ruin your future employability in a field that you enjoy because your current employer does something ****** but not illegal, more power to you, but not everyone is.
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I just wish he was better at his job before football went away. I have no problem with what he did after football went away.
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(07-09-2017 07:29 AM)Bham Blazer Wrote:  Is he able to talk now? Do NDA's expire?

He won't talk publicly nor should he now. But you can bet he knows where the bodies are buried.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
him not talking in public is not why I have issues with him. the fact that he refused to answers coaches questions before the program was shut down is.
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Yeah, he was obviously complicit in the plan to shut it down. The fact that he failed to go through with it doesn't make him a hero. It just means he was a coward to both sides.
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RE: Scarbo: Brian Mackin took the high road from UAB to Conference USA
The thing that gets me upset at Brian is that the BoT told him to not sign anymore OOC game contracts when McGee was still the head coach. It was right after Georgia State announced they had signed a contract with us for a home and home, someone can probably google the dates, but that is when the decision to kill UAB Football was made. McGee found out and got the hell out of dodge (and good riddance.) Brian could have sounded the alarm, he didn't have to make himself a martyr, even an off the record and under the radar warning to the right people would have helped, and yet said nothing.
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