I'd like to see the Chinese go all Game of Thrones and march down themselves to get rid of Fat Boy and turn NK into another Chinese port.

(07-05-2017 02:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He's been out of government since 2006. Only reason he still pops up is Fox News puts a mic under his nose every so often.

He's not getting back into government with that mustache.

(07-05-2017 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 02:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He's been out of government since 2006. Only reason he still pops up is Fox News puts a mic under his nose every so often.

Thank God! But didn't trump (or trump folks) put his name out there for consideration in the administration?

No. Trump thinks that he's a clown. Calls him the mustache.

(07-05-2017 06:11 PM)swagsurfer11 Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 02:47 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 02:45 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  He's been out of government since 2006. Only reason he still pops up is Fox News puts a mic under his nose every so often.

Thank God! But didn't trump (or trump folks) put his name out there for consideration in the administration?

No. Trump thinks that he's a clown. Calls him the mustache.

I'm stickin' with "ho-ho boy" ((twink(ie) would work)) as pure win....

http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorial...story.html

"But military action could be disastrous, leading to war on the Korean peninsula and the death of thousands of people. As the president’s military advisors will surely tell him, even “surgical” airstrikes designed to destroy North Korea’s nuclear weapons probably would trigger retaliation by the North against South Korea, using conventional weapons already amassed on the border. Secretary of Defense James N. Mattis has warned that the result “would be probably the worst kind of fighting in most people’s lifetimes.”

(07-05-2017 06:59 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorial...story.html

"But military action could be disastrous, leading to war on the Korean peninsula and the death of thousands of people. As the president’s military advisors will surely tell him, even “surgical” airstrikes designed to destroy North Korea’s nuclear weapons probably would trigger retaliation by the North against South Korea, using conventional weapons already amassed on the border. Secretary of Defense James N. Mattis has warned that the result “would be probably the worst kind of fighting in most people’s lifetimes.”

kill 'em.....all of 'em if necessary (which is only an option if dough boy chooses the wrong plunger at the vending machine)

do you really think it matters???

how about unleashing that brainwashed folk into the rice swamp....

btw....latimes???

you silly people....

The best military action right now might be to just start shooting down the missiles. Taking them out realtively early in thier flight path basically stalls the advancement of the program and is fairly defensible as N Korea is still technically at war with the US and, given Baby Huey's comments, the weapons could conceiveably be considered a "threat" to US interests. Shooting them down clearly ups the ante--but it does so without killing anyone---and could be reasonably considered defensive in nature. As military options go---this one is pretty measeured.

(07-05-2017 07:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The best military action right now might be to just start shooting down the missiles. Taking them out basically stalls the advancement of the program and is fairly defensible since N Korea is still technically at war with the US and, given Baby Huey's comments, the weapons could conceiveably be considered a "threat" to US interests. Shooting them down clearly ups the ante--but it does so without killing anyone---and could be reasonably considered defensive in nature.

there is no doubt we can....it's just a matter of having to use that tech against dough boy....

there's better ways to deal with that pudge...

(07-05-2017 07:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The best military action right now might be to just start shooting down the missiles. Taking them out realtively early in thier flight path basically stalls the advancement of the program and is fairly defensible as N Korea is still technically at war with the US and, given Baby Huey's comments, the weapons could conceiveably be considered a "threat" to US interests. Shooting them down clearly ups the ante--but it does so without killing anyone---and could be reasonably considered defensive in nature. As military options go---this one is pretty measeured.

I disagree. I think China would love the opportunity to study how our defenses operate.

North Korea isn't going to willing stop it's nuclear ambitions, and China has shown no interest in stopping it. The US must form a coalition with countries now at risk of these ICBs, including our allies in Europe. If China chooses not to be part of it, then they will be a big loser after the dust settles. If the US were to use military action, it could not be a half measured effort. One thing is certain, this problem isn't going to just go away.

(07-05-2017 01:08 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 01:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 01:01 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  P.S. Why do you think Russia is so nonchalant about Iran getting the bomb? They want the crazy Muslims to do their dirty work. Wouldn't you want someone to do the dirty work for you?

Russia is most at risk from Iran. They only have to deliver it next door.

Read last part of post no.8.

Iran won't fight the Russians. They hate us more. Now, Chechnya that's another matter.

Russia has lots of Muslims, many fundamentalist. I don't think Putin is so stupid to think Iran is not a threat to him, whether directly or through assistance to terrorists.

He is keeping his fingers in the pie as a form of control. He almost certainly has a lot better intelligence than us on what Iran is doing.

(07-05-2017 08:19 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-05-2017 07:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The best military action right now might be to just start shooting down the missiles. Taking them out realtively early in thier flight path basically stalls the advancement of the program and is fairly defensible as N Korea is still technically at war with the US and, given Baby Huey's comments, the weapons could conceiveably be considered a "threat" to US interests. Shooting them down clearly ups the ante--but it does so without killing anyone---and could be reasonably considered defensive in nature. As military options go---this one is pretty measeured.

I disagree. I think China would love the opportunity to study how our defenses operate.

North Korea isn't going to willing stop it's nuclear ambitions, and China has shown no interest in stopping it. The US must form a coalition with countries now at risk of these ICBs, including our allies in Europe. If China chooses not to be part of it, then they will be a big loser after the dust settles. If the US were to use military action, it could not be a half measured effort. One thing is certain, this problem isn't going to just go away.

The US just needs to move forward with rearming Japan and selling Taiwan high end stuff. Dropping several THAAD batteries in Taiwan might get China's attention---as will a 4 or 5 new Japanese carriers patrolling around their new little islands. Putting nukes in Korea. Shutting off US market to anyone dealing with N Korea. All thats coming---as is military action if that stuff doesnt work. Militaty action is the absolute last option---but it will occur before we allow N Korea to have a nuclear ICBM that can hit the US.

An interesting side note for the conspiracy guys---turns out the recently damaged USS Fitzgerald just happened to be armed with exactly the kind of missile needed to take out ICBM's. Not every ship has em.

(07-05-2017 06:59 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorial...story.html

"But military action could be disastrous, leading to war on the Korean peninsula and the death of thousands of people. As the president’s military advisors will surely tell him, even “surgical” airstrikes designed to destroy North Korea’s nuclear weapons probably would trigger retaliation by the North against South Korea, using conventional weapons already amassed on the border. Secretary of Defense James N. Mattis has warned that the result “would be probably the worst kind of fighting in most people’s lifetimes.”

All of that would change if the Chinese are involved. NK would not last long having to defend two fronts with its conventional army. SK is not a weakling and with total US air superiority and surgical missile strikes it would repel a NK advance. That is not to say that SK would not suffer casualties in the fight as in any war. The key to a quick ending of this would be Chinese involvement.

Im not sure the NK soldiers have a clue about what "war" really is. They have trained in isolation and have no real combat experience. I have a feeling that we would see a large portion of them turn and run when faced with the overwhelming power of the US military. There is a lot of swagger in the NK troops without any justification. The fact is NK has a very large and inexperienced ground force. It would not take much to send it into total chaos. Just taking out command,control and supply targets in initial attack with missiles would probably do the trick. Hell..I doubt NK could supply its forces with food for more than a few days once real combat ensued.

(07-05-2017 02:52 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  My cousin's husband arrived in South Korea yesterday to start his year long deployment.

Yikes...prayers being sent.

I have a nephew stationed in Japan (Navy) as well. He has a child over there too. Tough times to be a relative of a service member in that region for sure!

(07-05-2017 04:34 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  If the Chinese gave the thumbs up? I'd make that place a damn memory.

Yeah, but there are a lot of innocent people in that country that through no fault of their own are subject to that madman. Their lives have value whether the little man sees it or not.

(07-05-2017 06:59 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  http://www.latimes.com/opinion/editorial...story.html

"But military action could be disastrous, leading to war on the Korean peninsula and the death of thousands of people. As the president’s military advisors will surely tell him, even “surgical” airstrikes designed to destroy North Korea’s nuclear weapons probably would trigger retaliation by the North against South Korea, using conventional weapons already amassed on the border. Secretary of Defense James N. Mattis has warned that the result “would be probably the worst kind of fighting in most people’s lifetimes.”

Thousands? Isn't that a TAD light. Geesh!