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RE: My impressions of the ULM campus
When your state government thinks The Hunger Games are an economic model for funding higher education what do you expect people to think about the other schools drawing state money?
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(07-06-2017 09:44 PM)Warhawkman Wrote:  
Quote:Grambling endowment 4 mill
Southern 9.6 mill (SUNO lowest graduation rate in the nation)

The state needs to close these and NWST , Nicholls , McNeese

This is my biggest beef with ULL/ La Tech fans. I feel like tech/ ULL fans want other schools to be closed in the belief that it will enhance their own school. This is not something that needs to happen when all the schools are fighting for survival. We all need to work together at this point to save every school not named LSU instead of acting in a selfish manner. BTW I have heard Mcneese has by far the best finances in the state, so they are going to be the last UL system school to shut down.

The ULS needs to lean and mean to survive there is no need for 9 schools in the UL system in a state with 4.5 mill people
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Seems like a tough situation to resolve. The University System of Georgia has just gone through a BUNCH of consolidations with what has seemed like minimal pushback, but I don't think any of the absorbed schools had the history of dedication (especially with regard to athletics) that these Louisiana schools have.
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(07-07-2017 10:23 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Seems like a tough situation to resolve. The University System of Georgia has just gone through a BUNCH of consolidations with what has seemed like minimal pushback, but I don't think any of the absorbed schools had the history of dedication (especially with regard to athletics) that these Louisiana schools have.

We had a lot of pushback from Armstrong students/alums. Probably more than KSU did with SPSU. Also Armstrong was probably one of the more respected schools at the D2 level and had a few national titles in women's tennis and softball. There was a lot of fallout because of that and still is.
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(07-07-2017 10:34 AM)TrueBlueDrew Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 10:23 AM)Pounce FTW Wrote:  Seems like a tough situation to resolve. The University System of Georgia has just gone through a BUNCH of consolidations with what has seemed like minimal pushback, but I don't think any of the absorbed schools had the history of dedication (especially with regard to athletics) that these Louisiana schools have.

We had a lot of pushback from Armstrong students/alums. Probably more than KSU did with SPSU. Also Armstrong was probably one of the more respected schools at the D2 level and had a few national titles in women's tennis and softball. There was a lot of fallout because of that and still is.

True. I wasn't thinking much about that consolidation specifically; I'm guessing that's probably generated some of the most vocal opposition...? The thing is, even having lived in Georgia all of my life, I have more of a sense of alumni supporting schools like McNeese and Grambling than I do any of the schools that have been absorbed here.

It's a very general impression, of course...I guess I just imagine more passion to preserve the names and heritage of the Louisiana schools.
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(07-05-2017 10:09 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 04:59 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(07-04-2017 03:47 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  
(07-04-2017 03:16 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Just took the edge off the boredom and rode down to LaTech and Grambling.

We'll start with LaTech, campus felt bigger, but it should, it's a bigger school. Looks like they have recently torn down a building on campus and were cleaning that up. They are rebuilding the press box on the football stadium. Considering this is who ULM is directly recruiting against, I give LaTech the upper hand on the facilities I could see. Baseball, basketball, soccer and softball stadiums all looked equal.

Now for Grambling. I'm unable to discribe what I thought it would be, but it was much larger and nicer then I expected. The campus maintenance was behind, grass needed to be cut, things like that, but over all nicer then I expected. They are replacing the field turf in the football stadium, which was basic but nice. It is FBS size and would be easily expandable in the bowl it sits in. The campus had some noticeably new buildings such as the Student Union building. Baseball stadium is on the opposite side of campus, and is small. The field, dugouts, cages and bullpen all need to be updated. For a campus for less then 4,000 students, it was huge. Maybe management of that school has turned a corner and they are coming back around. The basketball arena looked to be newer then the other two schools. Softball and soccer were equal to the other schools.

The end result is Louisiana has 3, all major sports playing schools, within 30 miles of each other. Two FBS and one FCS with a huge football history, even if kids today don't know that history. They are all recruiting in an area that isn't heavily populated, all competing for the same kids. And doing it under the same university system umbrella. Without the right administration, it's would be easy to fall behind the other two in the facility wars.

Glad to hear they have grass. Went years back, looked tired and worn down.

Welcome to Louisiana politics, no sane reason to have 3 universities within 30 miles much less 2 within 5 miles. It's 2017.

Grambling University was sorely needed when it was established. It, like all other historically black colleges, was established because of racial segregation. Now, even though the primary reason for GSU's existence is no more, it is too politically incorrect to even speak of ever shutting it down.

Today, the two HBC's in Louisiana remain a drain on Louisiana taxpayers solely for political reasons. The vast majority of black high school students that meet the academic requirements of La Tech, ULM, UNO, or ULL, attend one of those schools over GSU or Southern. Though GSU and Southern are no longer needed, the citizens of Louisiana will be stuck paying the price for this political correctness for a long time to come. The same can be said about almost all HBC's.

The two public HBCU's in Alabama are both well positioned in the state. Alabama A&M has an endowment of $119milliom and sits on 880 acres, Alabama State's endowment is $86.5 mil. Except for UA-Huntsville for A&M and AU-Montgomery for State, neither university is relatively close to another public university, and neither UAH or AUM play football. If they could shake the HBCU designation, they would just become intrastate regional universities. For what it's worth, there are white students on both campus', I've seen them on their athletic teams.

Also, Alabama State recently built their new OCS, and it is exactly what I want at South!!!


Why would we want to "shake" the HBCU designation?
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(07-07-2017 03:08 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 10:09 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 04:59 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(07-04-2017 03:47 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  
(07-04-2017 03:16 PM)Usajags Wrote:  Just took the edge off the boredom and rode down to LaTech and Grambling.

We'll start with LaTech, campus felt bigger, but it should, it's a bigger school. Looks like they have recently torn down a building on campus and were cleaning that up. They are rebuilding the press box on the football stadium. Considering this is who ULM is directly recruiting against, I give LaTech the upper hand on the facilities I could see. Baseball, basketball, soccer and softball stadiums all looked equal.

Now for Grambling. I'm unable to discribe what I thought it would be, but it was much larger and nicer then I expected. The campus maintenance was behind, grass needed to be cut, things like that, but over all nicer then I expected. They are replacing the field turf in the football stadium, which was basic but nice. It is FBS size and would be easily expandable in the bowl it sits in. The campus had some noticeably new buildings such as the Student Union building. Baseball stadium is on the opposite side of campus, and is small. The field, dugouts, cages and bullpen all need to be updated. For a campus for less then 4,000 students, it was huge. Maybe management of that school has turned a corner and they are coming back around. The basketball arena looked to be newer then the other two schools. Softball and soccer were equal to the other schools.

The end result is Louisiana has 3, all major sports playing schools, within 30 miles of each other. Two FBS and one FCS with a huge football history, even if kids today don't know that history. They are all recruiting in an area that isn't heavily populated, all competing for the same kids. And doing it under the same university system umbrella. Without the right administration, it's would be easy to fall behind the other two in the facility wars.

Glad to hear they have grass. Went years back, looked tired and worn down.

Welcome to Louisiana politics, no sane reason to have 3 universities within 30 miles much less 2 within 5 miles. It's 2017.

Grambling University was sorely needed when it was established. It, like all other historically black colleges, was established because of racial segregation. Now, even though the primary reason for GSU's existence is no more, it is too politically incorrect to even speak of ever shutting it down.

Today, the two HBC's in Louisiana remain a drain on Louisiana taxpayers solely for political reasons. The vast majority of black high school students that meet the academic requirements of La Tech, ULM, UNO, or ULL, attend one of those schools over GSU or Southern. Though GSU and Southern are no longer needed, the citizens of Louisiana will be stuck paying the price for this political correctness for a long time to come. The same can be said about almost all HBC's.

The two public HBCU's in Alabama are both well positioned in the state. Alabama A&M has an endowment of $119milliom and sits on 880 acres, Alabama State's endowment is $86.5 mil. Except for UA-Huntsville for A&M and AU-Montgomery for State, neither university is relatively close to another public university, and neither UAH or AUM play football. If they could shake the HBCU designation, they would just become intrastate regional universities. For what it's worth, there are white students on both campus', I've seen them on their athletic teams.

Also, Alabama State recently built their new OCS, and it is exactly what I want at South!!!


Why would we want to "shake" the HBCU designation?

You will always be an HBCU by the definition as an historically black college or university. I was more referring to perception of being a school for black people instead of a school for all people. The Alabama university system is very well designed with location for all public schools and the region they each service.
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(07-07-2017 03:17 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 03:08 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 10:09 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 04:59 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(07-04-2017 03:47 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Glad to hear they have grass. Went years back, looked tired and worn down.

Welcome to Louisiana politics, no sane reason to have 3 universities within 30 miles much less 2 within 5 miles. It's 2017.

Grambling University was sorely needed when it was established. It, like all other historically black colleges, was established because of racial segregation. Now, even though the primary reason for GSU's existence is no more, it is too politically incorrect to even speak of ever shutting it down.

Today, the two HBC's in Louisiana remain a drain on Louisiana taxpayers solely for political reasons. The vast majority of black high school students that meet the academic requirements of La Tech, ULM, UNO, or ULL, attend one of those schools over GSU or Southern. Though GSU and Southern are no longer needed, the citizens of Louisiana will be stuck paying the price for this political correctness for a long time to come. The same can be said about almost all HBC's.

The two public HBCU's in Alabama are both well positioned in the state. Alabama A&M has an endowment of $119milliom and sits on 880 acres, Alabama State's endowment is $86.5 mil. Except for UA-Huntsville for A&M and AU-Montgomery for State, neither university is relatively close to another public university, and neither UAH or AUM play football. If they could shake the HBCU designation, they would just become intrastate regional universities. For what it's worth, there are white students on both campus', I've seen them on their athletic teams.

Also, Alabama State recently built their new OCS, and it is exactly what I want at South!!!


Why would we want to "shake" the HBCU designation?

You will always be an HBCU by the definition as an historically black college or university. I was more referring to perception of being a school for black people instead of a school for all people. The Alabama university system is very well designed with location for all public schools and the region they each service.

In 2017 if a person believes that an HBCU is only for black people, that's a them problem. ASU right now is about 9% white, most PWIs don't have black student populations that high.
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(07-07-2017 03:17 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 03:08 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 10:09 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 04:59 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  
(07-04-2017 03:47 PM)TaxusExpress Wrote:  Glad to hear they have grass. Went years back, looked tired and worn down.

Welcome to Louisiana politics, no sane reason to have 3 universities within 30 miles much less 2 within 5 miles. It's 2017.

Grambling University was sorely needed when it was established. It, like all other historically black colleges, was established because of racial segregation. Now, even though the primary reason for GSU's existence is no more, it is too politically incorrect to even speak of ever shutting it down.

Today, the two HBC's in Louisiana remain a drain on Louisiana taxpayers solely for political reasons. The vast majority of black high school students that meet the academic requirements of La Tech, ULM, UNO, or ULL, attend one of those schools over GSU or Southern. Though GSU and Southern are no longer needed, the citizens of Louisiana will be stuck paying the price for this political correctness for a long time to come. The same can be said about almost all HBC's.

The two public HBCU's in Alabama are both well positioned in the state. Alabama A&M has an endowment of $119milliom and sits on 880 acres, Alabama State's endowment is $86.5 mil. Except for UA-Huntsville for A&M and AU-Montgomery for State, neither university is relatively close to another public university, and neither UAH or AUM play football. If they could shake the HBCU designation, they would just become intrastate regional universities. For what it's worth, there are white students on both campus', I've seen them on their athletic teams.

Also, Alabama State recently built their new OCS, and it is exactly what I want at South!!!


Why would we want to "shake" the HBCU designation?

You will always be an HBCU by the definition as an historically black college or university. I was more referring to perception of being a school for black people instead of a school for all people. The Alabama university system is very well designed with location for all public schools and the region they each service.

HBCUs are for all people already.
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(07-07-2017 03:21 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 03:17 PM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-07-2017 03:08 PM)GreenHornet33 Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 10:09 AM)Usajags Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 04:59 AM)BRtransplant Wrote:  Grambling University was sorely needed when it was established. It, like all other historically black colleges, was established because of racial segregation. Now, even though the primary reason for GSU's existence is no more, it is too politically incorrect to even speak of ever shutting it down.

Today, the two HBC's in Louisiana remain a drain on Louisiana taxpayers solely for political reasons. The vast majority of black high school students that meet the academic requirements of La Tech, ULM, UNO, or ULL, attend one of those schools over GSU or Southern. Though GSU and Southern are no longer needed, the citizens of Louisiana will be stuck paying the price for this political correctness for a long time to come. The same can be said about almost all HBC's.

The two public HBCU's in Alabama are both well positioned in the state. Alabama A&M has an endowment of $119milliom and sits on 880 acres, Alabama State's endowment is $86.5 mil. Except for UA-Huntsville for A&M and AU-Montgomery for State, neither university is relatively close to another public university, and neither UAH or AUM play football. If they could shake the HBCU designation, they would just become intrastate regional universities. For what it's worth, there are white students on both campus', I've seen them on their athletic teams.

Also, Alabama State recently built their new OCS, and it is exactly what I want at South!!!


Why would we want to "shake" the HBCU designation?

You will always be an HBCU by the definition as an historically black college or university. I was more referring to perception of being a school for black people instead of a school for all people. The Alabama university system is very well designed with location for all public schools and the region they each service.

In 2017 if a person believes that an HBCU is only for black people, that's a them problem. ASU right now is about 9% white, most PWIs don't have black student populations that high.

probably true but black folks only make up 11% of the national population. at uta they are over 14%
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(07-06-2017 08:34 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  
(07-05-2017 06:30 PM)doberman1 Wrote:  I believe ULM was in the Southland Conference with us, ULL, and UTA way back in the day. They were with us in the American South that the Sunbelt merged with. They've been a part of this core group for at least the 30 years that I remember. They have a good Pharmacy school and have had National Championship water skiing teams. I'm sure they have other things going for them, but I'm no expert since I pretty much just follow what StAte does.

ULM wasn't in the American South.

Were they still in the SLC during that time frame?

I think you may be forgetting, but the American South was not a football conference.
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The following schools shared time in both the SLC and Sun Belt.

Arkansas St - SLC (1964-1987), American South (1987-1991), Sun Belt (1991-present). Football spent two stints in the Big West Conference (1993-96 & 99-01).

Louisiana - SLC (1971-1982(women's sports til 1987)), American South (1987-1991), Sun Belt (1991-present). Football in Big West from 93-96.

Louisiana Tech - SLC (1971-1987), American South (1987-1991), Sun Belt (1991-2001), WAC (2001-2013), CUSA (2013-present). Football in Big West from 93-96.

Louisiana-Monroe - SLC (1982-2006 (football went FBS in 1994), Sun Belt 2006 -present (FB joined in 2001))

UTA - SLC (1964-2012), WAC (2012-2013), SBC 2013-present

Lamar - SLC (1964-1987), American South (1987-1991), Sun Belt (1991-1999), SLC (1999-present)

North Texas - SLC (1982-1996), Big West (1996-2000), Sun Belt (2000-2013), CUSA (2013-).
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