You may have missed this story in the MSM among the fake news stories about Russia and all of that crap.....Real work is being done in the fight against Isis.

Quote:“It’s a whole different ball game folks,” Trump said of the renewed U.S. effort against the terrorist group. The president also hailed his own decision to select Secretary of Defense James Mattis, likening the former U.S. General to that of famed U.S. World War II hero Gen. George Patton. “We’ve got some Pattons today too, I found em….Mad Dog Mattis,” the president declared.

Trump’s remarks come amid a U.S. backed push on ISIS’s capital of Raqqa, Syria, and the final phases of the Iraqi Security Forces’ push on the city of Mosul

http://dailycaller.com/2017/07/01/theyre...ball-game/

"Find the enemy that wants to end this experiment (in American democracy) and kill every one of them until they’re so sick of the killing that they leave us and our freedoms intact." -Mattis

kill 'em all when you have the opportunity.....even on the eighth day....,

Mattis has the frame of mind that we need today when dealing with insects.....

I can only hope my nephew (soon to finish USMC OCS) carries that tradition forward.....

the rest of the dithering that differ can kiss my lily ******* white one......

Hussein "The Ostrich" Oballah is not in office anymore...

I'm glad Trump is sticking with Obama's strategy on Isis, and by Obama's strategy I mean the strategy the military came up with and he approved lol.

(07-02-2017 04:45 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I'm glad Trump is sticking with Obama's strategy on Isis, and by Obama's strategy I mean the strategy the military came up with and he approved lol.

Fake news lizard boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/334337...ilate-isis

Quote:Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Friday that new tactics approved by President Trump to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters have thrown the terrorist group on “their back foot.”

Speaking during a Pentagon press conference, Mattis said the U.S.-led coalition was increasing its pressure on ISIS by encircling fighters in their “strongholds.”

“[Trump] directed a tactical shift from shoving ISIS out of safe locations in an attrition fight to surrounding the enemy in their strongholds so we can annihilate ISIS,” Mattis said.

He explained that by “taking the time up front to surround these locations, instead of simply shoving them from one to another” coalition forces are able to “carry out the annihilation campaign so we don't simply transplant this problem from one location to another.”

Speaking alongside Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford and Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS Brett McGurk, Mattis noted that commanders have been given greater authority to move quickly in the fight without first seeking approval from Washington.

“We have changed, tactically, how we're going to carry it out. We have accelerated the campaign and that's shown up clearly in our tactical reports that are coming in,” Mattis said.

They are so cute at that age.

(07-02-2017 05:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 04:45 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I'm glad Trump is sticking with Obama's strategy on Isis, and by Obama's strategy I mean the strategy the military came up with and he approved lol.

Fake news lizard boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/334337...ilate-isis

Quote:Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Friday that new tactics approved by President Trump to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters have thrown the terrorist group on “their back foot.”

Speaking during a Pentagon press conference, Mattis said the U.S.-led coalition was increasing its pressure on ISIS by encircling fighters in their “strongholds.”

“[Trump] directed a tactical shift from shoving ISIS out of safe locations in an attrition fight to surrounding the enemy in their strongholds so we can annihilate ISIS,” Mattis said.

He explained that by “taking the time up front to surround these locations, instead of simply shoving them from one to another” coalition forces are able to “carry out the annihilation campaign so we don't simply transplant this problem from one location to another.”

Speaking alongside Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford and Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS Brett McGurk, Mattis noted that commanders have been given greater authority to move quickly in the fight without first seeking approval from Washington.

“We have changed, tactically, how we're going to carry it out. We have accelerated the campaign and that's shown up clearly in our tactical reports that are coming in,” Mattis said.

Yep. The POTUS is the Commander-in-Chief for a reason.

(07-02-2017 05:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 04:45 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I'm glad Trump is sticking with Obama's strategy on Isis, and by Obama's strategy I mean the strategy the military came up with and he approved lol.

Fake news lizard boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/334337...ilate-isis

Quote:Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Friday that new tactics approved by President Trump to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters have thrown the terrorist group on “their back foot.”

Speaking during a Pentagon press conference, Mattis said the U.S.-led coalition was increasing its pressure on ISIS by encircling fighters in their “strongholds.”

“[Trump] directed a tactical shift from shoving ISIS out of safe locations in an attrition fight to surrounding the enemy in their strongholds so we can annihilate ISIS,” Mattis said.

He explained that by “taking the time up front to surround these locations, instead of simply shoving them from one to another” coalition forces are able to “carry out the annihilation campaign so we don't simply transplant this problem from one location to another.”

Speaking alongside Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford and Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS Brett McGurk, Mattis noted that commanders have been given greater authority to move quickly in the fight without first seeking approval from Washington.

“We have changed, tactically, how we're going to carry it out. We have accelerated the campaign and that's shown up clearly in our tactical reports that are coming in,” Mattis said.

I don't think you understand the difference between tactics and strategy. You see tactics change as the goals of the strategy are advanced and the working environment changes.

Our strategy has stayed essentially the same, this is a drone and special forces conflict that directs these people to fight it themselves instead of sending in waves of our ground troops. This isn't an occupation we are in a support role. We have been and are continuing to be the guiding hand.

I like the tactical shift though, we have taken so much ground that they are becoming logistically cut off from their strongholds. A war of attrition is a war these ******* can't win.

(07-02-2017 05:28 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 05:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 04:45 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I'm glad Trump is sticking with Obama's strategy on Isis, and by Obama's strategy I mean the strategy the military came up with and he approved lol.

Fake news lizard boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/334337...ilate-isis

Quote:Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Friday that new tactics approved by President Trump to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters have thrown the terrorist group on “their back foot.”

Speaking during a Pentagon press conference, Mattis said the U.S.-led coalition was increasing its pressure on ISIS by encircling fighters in their “strongholds.”

“[Trump] directed a tactical shift from shoving ISIS out of safe locations in an attrition fight to surrounding the enemy in their strongholds so we can annihilate ISIS,” Mattis said.

He explained that by “taking the time up front to surround these locations, instead of simply shoving them from one to another” coalition forces are able to “carry out the annihilation campaign so we don't simply transplant this problem from one location to another.”

Speaking alongside Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford and Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS Brett McGurk, Mattis noted that commanders have been given greater authority to move quickly in the fight without first seeking approval from Washington.

“We have changed, tactically, how we're going to carry it out. We have accelerated the campaign and that's shown up clearly in our tactical reports that are coming in,” Mattis said.

I don't think you understand the difference between tactics and strategy. You see tactics change as the goals of the strategy are advanced and the working environment changes.

Our strategy has stayed essentially the same, this is a drone and special forces conflict that directs these people to fight it themselves instead of sending in waves of our ground troops. This isn't an occupation we are in a support role. We have been and are continuing to be the guiding hand.

I like the tactical shift though, we have taken so much ground that they are becoming logistically cut off from their strongholds. A war of attrition is a war these ******* can't win.

I don't think you have a clue about the subject.

The strategy under Obama was to push them around the desert with coalition ground forces backed by US special forces, artillery, and air power. This allowed fighters to flee and set up elsewhere, or to return to their home country to spread the ideology in the case of foreign fighters. It was a game of "Whack-a-mole" on a grand scale.

The strategy under Trump is to hold them in place and destroy them where they stand with increased air sorties (up 50% from the Obama regime https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...102063168/), increased special operations missions, and providing lethal aid to Kurds, one of the most effective groups fighting ISIS.

But perhaps the biggest difference is the fact that Trump is allowing his on scene commanders far more freedom to act which means they can seize opportunities when they present themselves instead of having to wait on a committee of politicians in Washington to decide to act and having the window of opportunity closing like they did under Obama.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/28/drone-soldi...e-minutes/

Quote:Then, the following year, one of Velicovich’s mentors, Jack, came close once again, having identified the house where al-Baghdadi was hiding.

“Jack’s plan was to take him out that night,” Velicovich writes, “but the State Department had changed the rules for raids and a planned raid on the target was delayed.”

With new rules in place, operatives now needed approval for their missions from several layers of Washington bureaucracy, and this could take days or even weeks.

“Jack tasked a drone over the house,” Velicovich writes, “and watched as a man exhibiting the exact same signature and description we always had for [al-Baghdadi] arrived in a vehicle and proceeded inside.”

They soon confirmed via drone camera that it was al-Baghdadi, but Jack couldn’t get approval to take him out quickly enough.

“Jack’s drone team now fell under the suits at the agency and State Department instead of the Department of Defense,” Velicovich writes. “So he had to convince them to move on the target. But his request to strike that night passed from empty suit to suit as he watched [al-Baghdadi] at the house.”

Jack even called his bosses several times that night, pleading his case. But it took a week to get approval for the mission. By then, al-Baghdadi was long gone.

(07-02-2017 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 05:28 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 05:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 04:45 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I'm glad Trump is sticking with Obama's strategy on Isis, and by Obama's strategy I mean the strategy the military came up with and he approved lol.

Fake news lizard boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/334337...ilate-isis

Quote:Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Friday that new tactics approved by President Trump to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters have thrown the terrorist group on “their back foot.”

Speaking during a Pentagon press conference, Mattis said the U.S.-led coalition was increasing its pressure on ISIS by encircling fighters in their “strongholds.”

“[Trump] directed a tactical shift from shoving ISIS out of safe locations in an attrition fight to surrounding the enemy in their strongholds so we can annihilate ISIS,” Mattis said.

He explained that by “taking the time up front to surround these locations, instead of simply shoving them from one to another” coalition forces are able to “carry out the annihilation campaign so we don't simply transplant this problem from one location to another.”

Speaking alongside Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford and Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS Brett McGurk, Mattis noted that commanders have been given greater authority to move quickly in the fight without first seeking approval from Washington.

“We have changed, tactically, how we're going to carry it out. We have accelerated the campaign and that's shown up clearly in our tactical reports that are coming in,” Mattis said.

I don't think you understand the difference between tactics and strategy. You see tactics change as the goals of the strategy are advanced and the working environment changes.

Our strategy has stayed essentially the same, this is a drone and special forces conflict that directs these people to fight it themselves instead of sending in waves of our ground troops. This isn't an occupation we are in a support role. We have been and are continuing to be the guiding hand.

I like the tactical shift though, we have taken so much ground that they are becoming logistically cut off from their strongholds. A war of attrition is a war these ******* can't win.

I don't think you have a clue about the subject.

The strategy under Obama was to push them around the desert with coalition ground forces backed by US special forces, artillery, and air power. This allowed fighters to flee and set up elsewhere, or to return to their home country to spread the ideology in the case of foreign fighters. It was a game of "Whack-a-mole" on a grand scale.

The strategy under Trump is to hold them in place and destroy them where they stand with increased air sorties (up 50% from the Obama regime https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...102063168/), increased special operations missions, and providing lethal aid to Kurds, one of the most effective groups fighting ISIS.

But perhaps the biggest difference is the fact that Trump is allowing his on scene commanders far more freedom to act which means they can seize opportunities when they present themselves instead of having to wait on a committee of politicians in Washington to decide to act and having the window of opportunity closing like they did under Obama.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/28/drone-soldi...e-minutes/

Quote:Then, the following year, one of Velicovich’s mentors, Jack, came close once again, having identified the house where al-Baghdadi was hiding.

“Jack’s plan was to take him out that night,” Velicovich writes, “but the State Department had changed the rules for raids and a planned raid on the target was delayed.”

With new rules in place, operatives now needed approval for their missions from several layers of Washington bureaucracy, and this could take days or even weeks.

“Jack tasked a drone over the house,” Velicovich writes, “and watched as a man exhibiting the exact same signature and description we always had for [al-Baghdadi] arrived in a vehicle and proceeded inside.”

They soon confirmed via drone camera that it was al-Baghdadi, but Jack couldn’t get approval to take him out quickly enough.

“Jack’s drone team now fell under the suits at the agency and State Department instead of the Department of Defense,” Velicovich writes. “So he had to convince them to move on the target. But his request to strike that night passed from empty suit to suit as he watched [al-Baghdadi] at the house.”

Jack even called his bosses several times that night, pleading his case. But it took a week to get approval for the mission. By then, al-Baghdadi was long gone.

You keep coming back to the "we surround and trap" as the grand change in strategy. Well let me tell you a little secret, this is only possible because of the land we have taken around these strongholds. It's a change in TACTICS based on gains our general strategy has provided. You also cite how trump has given more control to generals on the ground and I agree that's a good thing, however, pursuing a strategy more aggressively is not changing your strategy... I feel like you are so fragile about Trump that you think I'm criticising him when I'm not. I complemented him and you take it as a slight that must be defended lol like a white knight sjw.

(07-02-2017 06:31 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 05:46 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 05:28 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 05:07 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(07-02-2017 04:45 PM)Godzilla Wrote:  I'm glad Trump is sticking with Obama's strategy on Isis, and by Obama's strategy I mean the strategy the military came up with and he approved lol.

Fake news lizard boy.

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/334337...ilate-isis

Quote:Defense Secretary Jim Mattis said Friday that new tactics approved by President Trump to defeat Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) fighters have thrown the terrorist group on “their back foot.”

Speaking during a Pentagon press conference, Mattis said the U.S.-led coalition was increasing its pressure on ISIS by encircling fighters in their “strongholds.”

“[Trump] directed a tactical shift from shoving ISIS out of safe locations in an attrition fight to surrounding the enemy in their strongholds so we can annihilate ISIS,” Mattis said.

He explained that by “taking the time up front to surround these locations, instead of simply shoving them from one to another” coalition forces are able to “carry out the annihilation campaign so we don't simply transplant this problem from one location to another.”

Speaking alongside Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Joseph Dunford and Special Presidential Envoy for the Global Coalition to Counter ISIS Brett McGurk, Mattis noted that commanders have been given greater authority to move quickly in the fight without first seeking approval from Washington.

“We have changed, tactically, how we're going to carry it out. We have accelerated the campaign and that's shown up clearly in our tactical reports that are coming in,” Mattis said.

I don't think you understand the difference between tactics and strategy. You see tactics change as the goals of the strategy are advanced and the working environment changes.

Our strategy has stayed essentially the same, this is a drone and special forces conflict that directs these people to fight it themselves instead of sending in waves of our ground troops. This isn't an occupation we are in a support role. We have been and are continuing to be the guiding hand.

I like the tactical shift though, we have taken so much ground that they are becoming logistically cut off from their strongholds. A war of attrition is a war these ******* can't win.

I don't think you have a clue about the subject.

The strategy under Obama was to push them around the desert with coalition ground forces backed by US special forces, artillery, and air power. This allowed fighters to flee and set up elsewhere, or to return to their home country to spread the ideology in the case of foreign fighters. It was a game of "Whack-a-mole" on a grand scale.

The strategy under Trump is to hold them in place and destroy them where they stand with increased air sorties (up 50% from the Obama regime https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl...102063168/), increased special operations missions, and providing lethal aid to Kurds, one of the most effective groups fighting ISIS.

But perhaps the biggest difference is the fact that Trump is allowing his on scene commanders far more freedom to act which means they can seize opportunities when they present themselves instead of having to wait on a committee of politicians in Washington to decide to act and having the window of opportunity closing like they did under Obama.

http://nypost.com/2017/06/28/drone-soldi...e-minutes/

Quote:Then, the following year, one of Velicovich’s mentors, Jack, came close once again, having identified the house where al-Baghdadi was hiding.

“Jack’s plan was to take him out that night,” Velicovich writes, “but the State Department had changed the rules for raids and a planned raid on the target was delayed.”

With new rules in place, operatives now needed approval for their missions from several layers of Washington bureaucracy, and this could take days or even weeks.

“Jack tasked a drone over the house,” Velicovich writes, “and watched as a man exhibiting the exact same signature and description we always had for [al-Baghdadi] arrived in a vehicle and proceeded inside.”

They soon confirmed via drone camera that it was al-Baghdadi, but Jack couldn’t get approval to take him out quickly enough.

“Jack’s drone team now fell under the suits at the agency and State Department instead of the Department of Defense,” Velicovich writes. “So he had to convince them to move on the target. But his request to strike that night passed from empty suit to suit as he watched [al-Baghdadi] at the house.”

Jack even called his bosses several times that night, pleading his case. But it took a week to get approval for the mission. By then, al-Baghdadi was long gone.

You keep coming back to the "we surround and trap" as the grand change in strategy. Well let me tell you a little secret, this is only possible because of the land we have taken around these strongholds. It's a change in TACTICS based on gains our general strategy has provided. You also cite how trump has given more control to generals on the ground and I agree that's a good thing, however, pursuing a strategy more aggressively is not changing your strategy... I feel like you are so fragile about Trump that you think I'm criticising him when I'm not. I complemented him and you take it as a slight that must be defended lol like a white knight sjw.

We weren't "taking" anything under Obama's strategy. We would attack them in a location and would allow them escape to set up a stronghold somewhere else an then repeat the strategy. It was a strategy of attrition.

What we are doing now is surrounding the ******** in a position then annihilating them where they stand. We aren't allowing them to escape to set up elsewhere...we are killing them where they stand.

We are also do a hell of a lot more strikes than what we were doing under the Obama administration.

And the only person confused about strategy and tactics here is you. This isn't a continuation of the floundering Obama strategy, this is a different approach altogether. The article I linked earlier spells it out clearly.

Lol there is just no getting through to you. You see when they would run away we would take it. Shocking I know. Because this has been effective we were able to isolate them in a few major strongholds where there was nowhere left to run. Since the working environment has changed so now are the tactics we are using to effectively fight them. We're not sending in 50,000 marines to occupy these places, its not our ground troops going door to door being killed. We are continuing our support role from the air, with special forces, and intelligence gathering just like under Obama. Were not dropping forces to surround cities deep in enemy controlled territory like the fantasy you seem to have going on in your head. So cucked by Trumps rhetoric you can't believe it when he continues on Obama's plan lol. Sad.

I just said he's doing a good job but your default triggered mind frame just wouldn't allow that huh?