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RE: Conference USA Football Stadiums
(06-27-2017 06:56 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  



We are expanding our stadium at the end of this year. Bringing capacity to around 53,000.

As an outsider here are my suggestions.
ODU: Game plan is good for their new stadium
Marshall: I would chair back entire stadium in green chair backs. Then I would increase luxury seating above the stands on both sides of the field.
Southern Miss: Chair back the entire stadium in gold chair backs (similar to Pittsburgh). I would then add more seating above the new luxury seating with chair backs as well and a large video board in the middle. That should keep capacity about the same but creating nicer seating and keeping more sound in the stadium and making the stadium to appear much larger.
Rice: Chair entire stadium in Navy seating. Take down one upper deck and build mutlple leavles of luxury seating. With their deep pocket alumi and location in Houston they could get fans in luxury seating.

I wish Marshall had 1/10th of the drive, vision, and want to as ECU does. No reason we shouldn't. You guys have dwarfed us in the last 15 years and that's really sad.
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(06-28-2017 11:12 AM)HERD1 Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 06:56 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  



We are expanding our stadium at the end of this year. Bringing capacity to around 53,000.

As an outsider here are my suggestions.
ODU: Game plan is good for their new stadium
Marshall: I would chair back entire stadium in green chair backs. Then I would increase luxury seating above the stands on both sides of the field.
Southern Miss: Chair back the entire stadium in gold chair backs (similar to Pittsburgh). I would then add more seating above the new luxury seating with chair backs as well and a large video board in the middle. That should keep capacity about the same but creating nicer seating and keeping more sound in the stadium and making the stadium to appear much larger.
Rice: Chair entire stadium in Navy seating. Take down one upper deck and build mutlple leavles of luxury seating. With their deep pocket alumi and location in Houston they could get fans in luxury seating.

I wish Marshall had 1/10th of the drive, vision, and want to as ECU does. No reason we shouldn't. You guys have dwarfed us in the last 15 years and that's really sad.

I think Marshall has a lot of potential. It sucks you guys can get a annual game with West Virginia. I think it would be good for both fan bases who play a lot of conference games far away. Marshall has always had good fan following, just need to get back on top in CUSA.
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FAU's stadium was built with an eye to expanding it to 50K. I can't imagine our attendance numbers justifying it but if anyone thinks that attendance number is what matters in whether the expansion occurs they are not inhabiting same reality as the rest of us. Boca Raton will want a far bigger stadium for Boca Raton bowl. The city may prefer to appear more youthful, more happening on the TV screens.

Boca Raton does not want to be known chiefly as the subtropical paradise for the retirees and beach going tourists. And the low attendance number isn't going to matter much.
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(06-27-2017 09:10 PM)SVHerd Wrote:  

Marshall's stadium holds a little over 38K. Our largest crowd is 42K and change and the second largest 41K and change - both against WVU. The stadium was designed so that upper decks could be added to increase capacity to around 55K. That will never happen. We'll continue to average around 26-27K each year.

Not necessarily true. Expansion wasn't a consideration before because we NEVER had a "name" team in the Joan. Expansion isn't always about average attendance. We could have filled more space or at least made people more comfortable for WVU, Kstate, Purdue, Louisville, VT (if we'd had a better squad at the time.) We've got Boise, NCSt, Pitt, and others coming in the future. A second deck on the east side would not be a bad idea and could simply be covered unless a game is approaching sellout. It also makes a team more attractive to recruits, other conferences, etc. I agree we probably do not need it, but we've had 40k+ now on several occasions in a 38k stadium and who knows what we might have had with more seating available. Wouldn't hurt to have some shade on the east side as well. Gets pretty brutal over there.
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Joan C Edwards Stadium is 38,227 and expandable up to 55,000. That's with a 10,000 seat deck on the side without the press box and a 7,000 seat deck on the press box side. The footers for both decks were laid at the 1st phase of the stadium build.
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(06-27-2017 09:24 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 06:02 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  YES we need more seats! Are you kidding me?? How are you going to recruit HS talent when your stadium, and support, is smaller than their HS?

More seats are only necessary if you're filling the ones you have. A small but full stadium looks better than a large empty one.

Note: this is a general response, not specifically about USM.

Good point. ODU should be the only team considering expansion of their stadium at this time.
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I really dont get why Charlotte cant fill its 15k seat stadium.
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(06-28-2017 01:53 PM)SouthernMiss3613 Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 09:24 PM)techdawg28 Wrote:  
(06-27-2017 06:02 PM)USM@FTL Wrote:  YES we need more seats! Are you kidding me?? How are you going to recruit HS talent when your stadium, and support, is smaller than their HS?

More seats are only necessary if you're filling the ones you have. A small but full stadium looks better than a large empty one.

Note: this is a general response, not specifically about USM.

Good point. ODU should be the only team considering expansion of their stadium at this time.

I think Charlotte should go ahead and get to 20-25K as well. It will help bring in bigger names.
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(06-28-2017 01:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  I really dont get why Charlotte cant fill its 15k seat stadium.

Half our conference couldn't fill Charlotte's 15k stadium were it on their campus. At least they have the excuse of only being a program 4 years or whatever.
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Do y'all see UAB getting an on campus stadium within the next few years?
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(06-28-2017 02:12 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(06-28-2017 01:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  I really dont get why Charlotte cant fill its 15k seat stadium.

Half our conference couldn't fill Charlotte's 15k stadium were it on their campus. At least they have the excuse of only being a program 4 years or whatever.

Ya the F_U's are a joke for attendance. Hopefully the new coaches with change that
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(06-28-2017 01:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  I really dont get why Charlotte cant fill its 15k seat stadium.

Because our Athletic Department is run like it is a D3 school stuck in 1985.
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I would like to see the Sun Bowl capacity reduced to around 42,000 - 45,000. If we removed sections 18b -26b on the east side and replaced it with luxury suite boxes it would be a gigantic upgrade. I estimate those sections hold around 7-9 thousand seats. In the meantime we could cover those sections off with tarp or something else until we have the necessary money to make the upgrades.
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(06-28-2017 04:26 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  I would like to see the Sun Bowl capacity reduced to around 42,000 - 45,000. If we removed sections 18b -26b on the east side and replaced it with luxury suite boxes it would be a gigantic upgrade. I estimate those sections hold around 7-9 thousand seats. In the meantime we could cover those sections off with tarp or something else until we have the necessary money to make the upgrades.

It's true that less supply improves demand for tickets, I like the fact that when UTEP FB does well (rare, I know) the Sun Bowl has previously been filled or close to it. I wouldn't want the stadium down sized in any permanent way.
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(06-29-2017 06:52 AM)MinerInWisconsin Wrote:  
(06-28-2017 04:26 PM)JCMiner Wrote:  I would like to see the Sun Bowl capacity reduced to around 42,000 - 45,000. If we removed sections 18b -26b on the east side and replaced it with luxury suite boxes it would be a gigantic upgrade. I estimate those sections hold around 7-9 thousand seats. In the meantime we could cover those sections off with tarp or something else until we have the necessary money to make the upgrades.

It's true that less supply improves demand for tickets, I like the fact that when UTEP FB does well (rare, I know) the Sun Bowl has previously been filled or close to it. I wouldn't want the stadium down sized in any permanent way.

It has been 12 years since UTEP has constantly been able to produce crowds of 45,000+. Recently not even big 12 opponents as Texas Tech and Oklahoma have been able to draw over 40,000. It's time to change with the times. We are stuck in the G5 world with less and less conference name opponents having any draw in El Paso. The days of hosting power teams are few and far in between. The stadium needs some major upgrades. Trading in sevens thousand nose bleed seats for seven hundred high end seats seems like a good upgrade. If we ever reach the point of needing more seats we have the south end zone that could be filled up with seating to bring us back to around 50,0000.
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What's the attendance of the Sun Bowl typically? Would that be affected by reducing the capacity?
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(06-28-2017 02:12 PM)MUther Wrote:  
(06-28-2017 01:56 PM)cmett003 Wrote:  I really dont get why Charlotte cant fill its 15k seat stadium.

Half our conference couldn't fill Charlotte's 15k stadium were it on their campus. At least they have the excuse of only being a program 4 years or whatever.

Winning on a regular basis helps a lot, we haven't won an FBS game in our stadium yet. As much as I hate to say it, the core of our fan base is spoiled. During our basketball success in CUSA 1.0, we were winning big games and that pretty much set the standard.

We also have too many tickets allotted for students who get drunk at the tailgate and then don't show up or leave at halftime.
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(06-27-2017 06:56 PM)Carolina_Low_Country Wrote:  



We are expanding our stadium at the end of this year. Bringing capacity to around 53,000.

As an outsider here are my suggestions.
ODU: Game plan is good for their new stadium
Marshall: I would chair back entire stadium in green chair backs. Then I would increase luxury seating above the stands on both sides of the field.
Southern Miss: Chair back the entire stadium in gold chair backs (similar to Pittsburgh). I would then add more seating above the new luxury seating with chair backs as well and a large video board in the middle. That should keep capacity about the same but creating nicer seating and keeping more sound in the stadium and making the stadium to appear much larger.
Rice: Chair entire stadium in Navy seating. Take down one upper deck and build mutlple leavles of luxury seating. With their deep pocket alumi and location in Houston they could get fans in luxury seating.

Someone wants a cookie.
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(06-29-2017 08:12 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  What's the attendance of the Sun Bowl typically? Would that be affected by reducing the capacity?

Last season we averaged 23,000 with a high of 38,000 vs Army. Even during our bowl run in 2014 the average was 28,000 with a high of 35,000 vs Texas Tech. Our other bowl run was in 2010. We averaged 29,000 with a high of 39,000 vs NMSU. Those sections I'm suggesting to close off are mainly empty. You'll get a couple of young kids going up there to hold hands or do other things you wouldn't want to be seen. When we do get marquee opponents it might result in more sell outs since people may be more urgent about purchasing their tickets.
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(06-29-2017 08:36 AM)JCMiner Wrote:  
(06-29-2017 08:12 AM)mturn017 Wrote:  What's the attendance of the Sun Bowl typically? Would that be affected by reducing the capacity?

Last season we averaged 23,000 with a high of 38,000 vs Army. Even during our bowl run in 2014 the average was 28,000 with a high of 35,000 vs Texas Tech. Our other bowl run was in 2010. We averaged 29,000 with a high of 39,000 vs NMSU. Those sections I'm suggesting to close off are mainly empty. You'll get a couple of young kids going up there to hold hands or do other things you wouldn't want to be seen. When we do get marquee opponents it might result in more sell outs since people may be more urgent about purchasing their tickets.

Sorry, I was referring to the Bowl Game played there. What does that game usually pull? Would the bowl officials be put off by your plan or would it be a nonissue?
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