Good article with some numbers on the people who have dropped out of the workforce, the impact on them and some ideas on dealing with the problem.

One issue I've noted before:
....Occupational licensing is another area crying out for reform. The University of Minnesota’s Morris Kleiner has found that the share of American workers who need an occupational license has increased from 5 percent in the 1950s to 29 percent in 2008. States now credential interior designers, tree trimmers, and even florists. In many cases, these requirements are merely means for protecting incumbents from competition. When we license basic service jobs, we make it tougher for the jobless to find something new to do....

https://www.city-journal.org/html/war-wo...15250.html

great article....

sounds like it was written by someone I know very well.....and many others on this board...

#incentive

#vocationaltraining

#oversubsidizedpolicyfailure

#servicevsmanufacturing

#familydisolve

is ironic it comes from a minne-ha-ha-sotan....

cue the bison spew.....

Sounds like a state and local issue...

(06-26-2017 09:52 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Sounds like a state and local issue...

Yes and no....

If the state and local governments begin to infringe on your rights the federal government should step in.

So the question is, at what point is forcing people to have a "license" to work in a field infringing on their rights.

There was a case recently where two you architects started a business. One had a license and did design and plans. They other was unlicensed and basically made the promotional material.

They were fined...

Engineers, architects, construction folks.... sure... But tere is a point where regulation stifles a persons right to make a living and there is no tangible benefit to society.

What real benefit is there to licensing florist? Other that to soak people and lock down the industry for people already in there?

(06-26-2017 10:10 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(06-26-2017 09:52 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Sounds like a state and local issue...

Yes and no....

If the state and local governments begin to infringe on your rights the federal government should step in.

So the question is, at what point is forcing people to have a "license" to work in a field infringing on their rights.

There was a case recently where two you architects started a business. One had a license and did design and plans. They other was unlicensed and basically made the promotional material.

They were fined...

Engineers, architects, construction folks.... sure... But tere is a point where regulation stifles a persons right to make a living and there is no tangible benefit to society.

What real benefit is there to licensing florist? Other that to soak people and lock down the industry for people already in there?

Yup.

when my wife and I were dating she was working in PA with her licensing there. She got an offer to move to Va. and resume her career here, she basically had to work "part-time" IOW's sitting around half the day, or not do her "hired-for" job for something like 2 1/2 months while she applied for, took tests, filled out paperwork, paid a not insignificant sum of $$$'s on and on and on while she got her Va. Licenses.

Now what on earth conceivable difference is there between doing your professional desk job in Norristown Pennsylvania versus Petersburg Va.?

Yea, nothing. Just another money grab and as you mention a barrier to people going into that field. It was ridiculous and expensive.

(06-26-2017 05:37 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-26-2017 10:10 AM)Bull_Is_Back Wrote:  

(06-26-2017 09:52 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Sounds like a state and local issue...

Yes and no....

If the state and local governments begin to infringe on your rights the federal government should step in.

So the question is, at what point is forcing people to have a "license" to work in a field infringing on their rights.

There was a case recently where two you architects started a business. One had a license and did design and plans. They other was unlicensed and basically made the promotional material.

They were fined...

Engineers, architects, construction folks.... sure... But tere is a point where regulation stifles a persons right to make a living and there is no tangible benefit to society.

What real benefit is there to licensing florist? Other that to soak people and lock down the industry for people already in there?

Yup.

when my wife and I were dating she was working in PA with her licensing there. She got an offer to move to Va. and resume her career here, she basically had to work "part-time" IOW's sitting around half the day, or not do her "hired-for" job for something like 2 1/2 months while she applied for, took tests, filled out paperwork, paid a not insignificant sum of $$$'s on and on and on while she got her Va. Licenses.

Now what on earth conceivable difference is there between doing your professional desk job in Norristown Pennsylvania versus Petersburg Va.?

Yea, nothing. Just another money grab and as you mention a barrier to people going into that field. It was ridiculous and expensive.

In Georgia, even if you were a CPA in another state, you have to send your college transcripts and re-document your experience requirement. In my case, that was all from over 25 years before. It was simply to make competition difficult.

(06-26-2017 05:37 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Now what on earth conceivable difference is there between doing your professional desk job in Norristown Pennsylvania versus Petersburg Va.?

Hopefully the fiscal situation of Norristown was much better and the crime rate was much lower than Petersburg? Your point is not lost on me, as my wife is an XRAY tech, and the licensing requirements as we have moved around can be plain silly. Just empathize a little when I hear of white collar jobs in Petersburg...tough town.

My son is dealing with this. He gained National Registry EMT- Basic certification as part of his AIT training through the Army. He's currently taking the National Registry EMT - Paramedic course (the Army is paying half of the tuition). In a little over a year when his enlistment is up and he returns home South Carolina, despite being a National Registry state, will not accept his NREMT-P certification. The state of Texas, however, will automatically give him Texas Paramedic certification just for holding the NREMT-P certification. South Carolina will accept the Texas certification.