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RE: University of Illinois upgrading Club Hockey to D1?
(04-10-2018 08:05 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(04-09-2018 06:54 PM)Love and Honor Wrote:  You guys should've convinced Gies to cut back his B-school donation to "only" $100 million lol, you'd still have 50 left over to fund hockey. My dad went to U of I and has a good friend who is pretty high up in the fundraising functions, he said at last December's Braggin' Rights game they were expecting a big donation from them but realistically in the 15-20 range.

Ha! I wouldn’t go that far. As a U of I business school grad, that donation from Gies is WAY more important for a much larger number of students compared to hockey. It’s a potential game-changer that can get the B-school into the top academic tier in the way that its engineering school already is today. The State of Illinois funding for public universities is essentially zero at this point, so U of I needs to fundraise as if it were a private university going forward.

Yeah that's definitely true. There's a certain value that having a 'name' business school gives you, like Kelley and Ross in the Big Ten or somewhere else like Wharton. The U of I accounting program is already really good, this ought to really boost the rest of the department which to my knowledge has a solid rep but non-elite status.

It's also a good strategy in terms of recruiting out-of-state or international students and their extra tuition dollars to help make up the budget shortfalls you refer to; liberal arts has a ceiling and can kinda be duplicated at a hundred other colleges, but a phenomenal college of engineering (which they already have) or business is hard to develop but can really attract people from around the country when you can advertise the high starting salary some majors can earn you right after graduation.
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Quote:U.S. Rep. Rodney Davis is on board with the Champaign-Urbana Mass Transit District's plan to expand its Illinois Terminal facility in downtown Champaign, a project that also could lead to a privately developed hotel, conference center and sports arena.

The private investment Davis was referencing is developer Hans Grotelueschen's proposal to build a hotel and conference center in downtown Champaign that includes a 5,000- to 6,000-seat arena, apartments and office space. Earlier this year, the UI declared it supports the downtown site for an arena for a proposed Division I hockey program at Illinois.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2...nsion.html
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Quote:U.S. Rep. Rodney Davis is on board with the Champaign-Urbana Mass Transit District's plan to expand its Illinois Terminal facility in downtown Champaign, a project that also could lead to a privately developed hotel, conference center and sports arena.

The private investment Davis was referencing is developer Hans Grotelueschen's proposal to build a hotel and conference center in downtown Champaign that includes a 5,000- to 6,000-seat arena, apartments and office space. Earlier this year, the UI declared it supports the downtown site for an arena for a proposed Division I hockey program at Illinois.

http://www.news-gazette.com/news/local/2...nsion.html
Nebraska had similar mockups for Breslow Ice Arena when it was being planned, an ice rink with a big N over the center dot and players clad in the school colors. The administration's been adamant that hockey's a hard no until the other men's sports are up to expectations. All you're getting a peek into with these pictures is the architect's marketing strategy.
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Mad props to them. Apparently they've won the 2022 NCAA national championship (banner in upper left corner) and they have scheduled the New York Rangers for a challenging OOC game- (well the NHL is helping with this project). So to make it even they get to play with 8 skaters on the ice, and the Rangers don't get to have a goalie.

Actually, there are 3 teams on the ice: the black helmets on the right, the blue helmets in the center, the white helmets farthest away. I find having 2 team benches on both the right and left sides a very innovative design. There might actually be a 4th team hiding below the tifo. Or maybe it's just a whole lot of guys in the penalty box (it's kind of blurry and hard to tell- probably the off-ice officials).

I hope this project happens. I'd like to see college hockey expand. But maybe this isn't the company you want designing your rink. Jes sayin.
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(05-06-2018 11:03 PM)Mav Wrote:  Nebraska had similar mockups for Breslow Ice Arena when it was being planned, an ice rink with a big N over the center dot and players clad in the school colors. The administration's been adamant that hockey's a hard no until the other men's sports are up to expectations. All you're getting a peek into with these pictures is the architect's marketing strategy.

It's farther along than Nebraska - this is the site that Illinois wants and it stated so after the release of the NHL-funded viability study. The Illinois administration is on the record that it wants to add hockey... but it has also been clear that it must be fully-funded from the beginning. For hockey to start at Illinois, it all has to be net new money coming in - nothing from existing athletic department funds can be used. Even the current Illinois fundraising drive for athletics is totally focused on current sports. What gives people optimism is that Illinois has been very open about its desire to add hockey, which is a sea change for the past 20 years. Even as of a couple of years ago, Josh Whitman said very quickly that hockey was off-the-table as an option whenever he was asked. It's a very different tune now. That being said, I'm as well aware as anyone about what it's going to require for hockey at Illinois to happen... and it's going to take a LOT (e.g. $50 million-plus in donations).
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Illinois should consider dropping baseball and only adding men’s hockey.

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illin...facilities

Baseball badly needs a facility upgrade, while hockey would have a new arena. If they needed a Title IX sport, add W Lax.

Women’s hockey has become such a cash burner, as Wisconsin and Minnesota so dominate that sport in the West. Even Ohio St can’t compete with them.
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(05-10-2018 07:45 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Illinois should consider dropping baseball and only adding men’s hockey.

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illin...facilities

Baseball badly needs a facility upgrade, while hockey would have a new arena. If they needed a Title IX sport, add W Lax.

Women’s hockey has become such a cash burner, as Wisconsin and Minnesota so dominate that sport in the West. Even Ohio St can’t compete with them.

Illinois is NOT going to consider dropping baseball. That’s absolute insanity. I want hockey to come to Illinois, but the conditions are that it must be a 100% fully-funded addition to the athletic department without cutting other sports. Period. The athletic department has been very clear on this point. There are no “investments” from Illinois here or budgeting or reallocations - there needs to be a straight up cash donation that’s purely additive for hockey to happen.
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(05-10-2018 11:42 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 07:45 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Illinois should consider dropping baseball and only adding men’s hockey.

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illin...facilities

Baseball badly needs a facility upgrade, while hockey would have a new arena. If they needed a Title IX sport, add W Lax.

Women’s hockey has become such a cash burner, as Wisconsin and Minnesota so dominate that sport in the West. Even Ohio St can’t compete with them.

Illinois is NOT going to consider dropping baseball. That’s absolute insanity. I want hockey to come to Illinois, but the conditions are that it must be a 100% fully-funded addition to the athletic department without cutting other sports. Period. The athletic department has been very clear on this point. There are no “investments” from Illinois here or budgeting or reallocations - there needs to be a straight up cash donation that’s purely additive for hockey to happen.
Wisconsin dropped baseball and converted their old baseball stadium into a softball field. Guess the Badgers are just insane.
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(05-10-2018 11:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 11:42 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 07:45 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Illinois should consider dropping baseball and only adding men’s hockey.

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illin...facilities

Baseball badly needs a facility upgrade, while hockey would have a new arena. If they needed a Title IX sport, add W Lax.

Women’s hockey has become such a cash burner, as Wisconsin and Minnesota so dominate that sport in the West. Even Ohio St can’t compete with them.

Illinois is NOT going to consider dropping baseball. That’s absolute insanity. I want hockey to come to Illinois, but the conditions are that it must be a 100% fully-funded addition to the athletic department without cutting other sports. Period. The athletic department has been very clear on this point. There are no “investments” from Illinois here or budgeting or reallocations - there needs to be a straight up cash donation that’s purely additive for hockey to happen.
Wisconsin dropped baseball and converted their old baseball stadium into a softball field. Guess the Badgers are just insane.

IMHO, yes, Wisconsin was insane. They’re the only Big Ten school without a baseball program. That’s not something to be proud of. Wisconsin also dropped that sport in 1991 before they turned their football program around (going from one of the worst revenue generators in the Big Ten to one of the best) and they started receiving the gusher of Big Ten TV money. The Badgers would have NEVER dropped baseball in today’s environment. Illinois is not going to follow suit. You’ve completely twisted the article. The entire crux of that article is that Illinois baseball has actually been pretty good competitively, so it needs facilities upgrades to stay that way with how the other Big Ten schools have upgraded over the past decade. You can pretty much say that about any sport at any P5 school in the facilities arms race.
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(05-11-2018 07:21 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 11:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 11:42 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 07:45 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Illinois should consider dropping baseball and only adding men’s hockey.

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illin...facilities

Baseball badly needs a facility upgrade, while hockey would have a new arena. If they needed a Title IX sport, add W Lax.

Women’s hockey has become such a cash burner, as Wisconsin and Minnesota so dominate that sport in the West. Even Ohio St can’t compete with them.

Illinois is NOT going to consider dropping baseball. That’s absolute insanity. I want hockey to come to Illinois, but the conditions are that it must be a 100% fully-funded addition to the athletic department without cutting other sports. Period. The athletic department has been very clear on this point. There are no “investments” from Illinois here or budgeting or reallocations - there needs to be a straight up cash donation that’s purely additive for hockey to happen.
Wisconsin dropped baseball and converted their old baseball stadium into a softball field. Guess the Badgers are just insane.

IMHO, yes, Wisconsin was insane. They’re the only Big Ten school without a baseball program. That’s not something to be proud of. Wisconsin also dropped that sport in 1991 before they turned their football program around (going from one of the worst revenue generators in the Big Ten to one of the best) and they started receiving the gusher of Big Ten TV money. The Badgers would have NEVER dropped baseball in today’s environment. Illinois is not going to follow suit. You’ve completely twisted the article. The entire crux of that article is that Illinois baseball has actually been pretty good competitively, so it needs facilities upgrades to stay that way with how the other Big Ten schools have upgraded over the past decade. You can pretty much say that about any sport at any P5 school in the facilities arms race.
The comment was mostly made in jest, but even a BIG school doesn’t have much shot at making the College World Series. But Illinois can and should be a national power in sports like hockey and lacrosse, which would both likely take in more revenue the baseball. Dropping baseball has enormous repercussions among alumni so it wouldn’t be done for adding another sport.
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I still find it hard to believe that some B1G schools don't sponsor mens soccer
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(05-11-2018 06:16 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(05-11-2018 07:21 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 11:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 11:42 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 07:45 PM)NoDak Wrote:  Illinois should consider dropping baseball and only adding men’s hockey.

http://www.news-gazette.com/sports/illin...facilities

Baseball badly needs a facility upgrade, while hockey would have a new arena. If they needed a Title IX sport, add W Lax.

Women’s hockey has become such a cash burner, as Wisconsin and Minnesota so dominate that sport in the West. Even Ohio St can’t compete with them.

Illinois is NOT going to consider dropping baseball. That’s absolute insanity. I want hockey to come to Illinois, but the conditions are that it must be a 100% fully-funded addition to the athletic department without cutting other sports. Period. The athletic department has been very clear on this point. There are no “investments” from Illinois here or budgeting or reallocations - there needs to be a straight up cash donation that’s purely additive for hockey to happen.
Wisconsin dropped baseball and converted their old baseball stadium into a softball field. Guess the Badgers are just insane.

IMHO, yes, Wisconsin was insane. They’re the only Big Ten school without a baseball program. That’s not something to be proud of. Wisconsin also dropped that sport in 1991 before they turned their football program around (going from one of the worst revenue generators in the Big Ten to one of the best) and they started receiving the gusher of Big Ten TV money. The Badgers would have NEVER dropped baseball in today’s environment. Illinois is not going to follow suit. You’ve completely twisted the article. The entire crux of that article is that Illinois baseball has actually been pretty good competitively, so it needs facilities upgrades to stay that way with how the other Big Ten schools have upgraded over the past decade. You can pretty much say that about any sport at any P5 school in the facilities arms race.
The comment was mostly made in jest, but even a BIG school doesn’t have much shot at making the College World Series. But Illinois can and should be a national power in sports like hockey and lacrosse, which would both likely take in more revenue the baseball. Dropping baseball has enormous repercussions among alumni so it wouldn’t be done for adding another sport.
You mean like Indiana?
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(05-17-2018 12:46 AM)Mav Wrote:  
(05-11-2018 06:16 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(05-11-2018 07:21 AM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 11:50 PM)NoDak Wrote:  
(05-10-2018 11:42 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  Illinois is NOT going to consider dropping baseball. That’s absolute insanity. I want hockey to come to Illinois, but the conditions are that it must be a 100% fully-funded addition to the athletic department without cutting other sports. Period. The athletic department has been very clear on this point. There are no “investments” from Illinois here or budgeting or reallocations - there needs to be a straight up cash donation that’s purely additive for hockey to happen.
Wisconsin dropped baseball and converted their old baseball stadium into a softball field. Guess the Badgers are just insane.

IMHO, yes, Wisconsin was insane. They’re the only Big Ten school without a baseball program. That’s not something to be proud of. Wisconsin also dropped that sport in 1991 before they turned their football program around (going from one of the worst revenue generators in the Big Ten to one of the best) and they started receiving the gusher of Big Ten TV money. The Badgers would have NEVER dropped baseball in today’s environment. Illinois is not going to follow suit. You’ve completely twisted the article. The entire crux of that article is that Illinois baseball has actually been pretty good competitively, so it needs facilities upgrades to stay that way with how the other Big Ten schools have upgraded over the past decade. You can pretty much say that about any sport at any P5 school in the facilities arms race.
The comment was mostly made in jest, but even a BIG school doesn’t have much shot at making the College World Series. But Illinois can and should be a national power in sports like hockey and lacrosse, which would both likely take in more revenue the baseball. Dropping baseball has enormous repercussions among alumni so it wouldn’t be done for adding another sport.
You mean like Indiana?

A Sun Belt team has much more likelihood than a B1G school. A flyer out of the north like Stony Brook or Kent St have just as much likelihood as a B1G school.

50 years ago the B1G was arguably a dominant baseball conference. Now, they are just a midmajor.
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Well, is Illinois upgrading hockey?
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Per Jeremy Werner @247: AD Josh Whitman Media roundtable in a half hour. These plans on display in meeting room. Potential hockey/wrestling/volleyball/gymnastics arena going to be a big topic.
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Per Jeremy Werner @247: Division-I #illini hockey becoming more of a reality. Whitman "increasingly confident" he could greenlight project by the end of the calendar year

Whitman 'increasingly confident' in adding D-I hockey program
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(06-06-2018 04:12 PM)dreamlander Wrote:  Per Jeremy Werner @247: Division-I #illini hockey becoming more of a reality. Whitman "increasingly confident" he could greenlight project by the end of the calendar year

Whitman 'increasingly confident' in adding D-I hockey program

This is a significant development. AD's don't typically say they are "increasingly confident" about adding sports that won't get added.

U of I could be a very effective hockey program in the Big 10...
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(06-06-2018 06:47 PM)puck swami Wrote:  
(06-06-2018 04:12 PM)dreamlander Wrote:  Per Jeremy Werner @247: Division-I #illini hockey becoming more of a reality. Whitman "increasingly confident" he could greenlight project by the end of the calendar year

Whitman 'increasingly confident' in adding D-I hockey program

This is a significant development. AD's don't typically say they are "increasingly confident" about adding sports that won't get added.

U of I could be a very effective hockey program in the Big 10...

Agreed. Whitman isn't an AD that blows smoke - he has been very upfront on what needs to happen and for this to work with specific dollar amounts. So, it's encouraging that he's positive and has noted some seven figure donations have come in already.

The ability to have a hockey arena also include new home floors for the existing volleyball (which is a major strength for Illinois and the Big Ten in general), wrestling and gymnastics programs is also an important selling point. It allows Whitman to position this as strengthening multiple sports (as opposed to spending money on the equivalent of a shiny new car at the perceived expense of existing programs).

As I've long said, I'm optimistic and completely believe hockey would work well at Illinois, but I've been around the school long enough that it's not a done deal to me until there are actually shovels in the ground building this arena (and even then, developments can and have stopped midstream).
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Sounds like good news on Illinois. I'd love the SEC to one day have hockey (and wrestling) but I don't see it ever happening, at least in the next few decades.
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They want a hockey team, but they don't have men's soccer team nor a men's swimming team when those facilities already exist and are cheaper by a huge magnitude.

Yup, sounds like a typical Illinois public employee made decision.
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