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(09-09-2021 09:47 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(09-09-2021 04:32 PM)XLance Wrote:  If Kansas does plan to spend $300 million on upgrades, it would mean they are not planning to stay in the new Big 12.

The fact that they haven't proceeded is likely a prudent course of action. At least for now.

I'm looking forward to seeing those Kansas vs. Kentucky matchups in the SEC tournament finals. 04-cheers
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Anybody else watch Kansas and Coastal Carolina last night?

I know Coastal is a solid squad, but that was embarrassing for the Jayhawks. I don't know that a $300M renovation would really do much for this program anyway. Not like Coastal Carolina is rich or anything.
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(09-11-2021 07:52 AM)AllTideUp Wrote:  Anybody else watch Kansas and Coastal Carolina last night?

I know Coastal is a solid squad, but that was embarrassing for the Jayhawks. I don't know that a $300M renovation would really do much for this program anyway. Not like Coastal Carolina is rich or anything.
The renovation might help with recruiting and some attendance (more revenue) but that is a lot of money. CCU is playing well with far less.

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(06-22-2017 10:52 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Hard to believe that KU doesn't have an indoor practice facility. Good to see KU positioning themselves for whatever opportunity comes along in the future. I would expect you'll see similar activity at Big 12 programs not named Texas or Oklahoma the next few years. Exciting times....
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KU does have an indoor practice facility. It is only a couple of years old. A number of posters on Phog consider that it was a failing of the AD not to ensure that the building had a red roof consonant with the red roofs of other buildings on the campus.
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(06-22-2017 09:59 PM)gosports1 Wrote:  a B12/FBS program has a track around their FB field? hmmm

That's an old photo. The track was removed a few years ago. Fans had been clamoring for its removal for a long time. A new facility was built for track (KU's women won a natty in T/F not long ago; womens volleyball has been to a final four recently, and that team plays in a new facility named for the donor that got it built).

ETA: Should have noticed these were old posts.
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(09-29-2021 11:42 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  
(06-22-2017 10:52 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Hard to believe that KU doesn't have an indoor practice facility. Good to see KU positioning themselves for whatever opportunity comes along in the future. I would expect you'll see similar activity at Big 12 programs not named Texas or Oklahoma the next few years. Exciting times....
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KU does have an indoor practice facility. It is only a couple of years old. A number of posters on Phog consider that it was a failing of the AD not to ensure that the building had a red roof consonant with the red roofs of other buildings on the campus.

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(09-29-2021 11:42 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  
(06-22-2017 10:52 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Hard to believe that KU doesn't have an indoor practice facility. Good to see KU positioning themselves for whatever opportunity comes along in the future. I would expect you'll see similar activity at Big 12 programs not named Texas or Oklahoma the next few years. Exciting times....
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KU does have an indoor practice facility. It is only a couple of years old. A number of posters on Phog consider that it was a failing of the AD not to ensure that the building had a red roof consonant with the red roofs of other buildings on the campus.

According to this

https://kuathletics.com/facilities/indoo...-facility/

Kansas indoor practice facility opened in 2019. My post you quoted was from 6/22/2017. Two years before Kansas indoor practice facility opened.

So at the time I posted my comment Kansas didn’t have an indoor practice facility.
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(10-01-2021 01:03 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  So at the time I posted my comment Kansas didn’t have an indoor practice facility.

Incorrect! Since 1984:

https://kuathletics.com/facilities/anschutz-pavilion/

The above is near student housing; the new one is near the stadium.
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(10-01-2021 01:03 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 11:42 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  
(06-22-2017 10:52 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Hard to believe that KU doesn't have an indoor practice facility. Good to see KU positioning themselves for whatever opportunity comes along in the future. I would expect you'll see similar activity at Big 12 programs not named Texas or Oklahoma the next few years. Exciting times....
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KU does have an indoor practice facility. It is only a couple of years old. A number of posters on Phog consider that it was a failing of the AD not to ensure that the building had a red roof consonant with the red roofs of other buildings on the campus.

According to this

https://kuathletics.com/facilities/indoo...-facility/

Kansas indoor practice facility opened in 2019. My post you quoted was from 6/22/2017. Two years before Kansas indoor practice facility opened.

So at the time I posted my comment Kansas didn’t have an indoor practice facility.

Yeah, I added an ETA when I realized the posts were 4 years old.
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RE: KU Athletics planning $300 million Memorial Stadium renovation
If Kansas is going ahead with football stadium renovations, odds are that it's not being done to satisfy Big 12 conference demands or to accommodate crowds from Houston, Cincinnati and UCF.
One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.
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(05-02-2022 04:42 AM)XLance Wrote:  One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.

IMO, no question on "anticipating" at a mininum.

This is doubling down -- i.e. sending a message "Hey, look everybody - Kansas is finally getting serious about football" that's sure to appear in most every story about "Big Two" expansion.

Question for the board: Does anyone think KU's far and away No. 1 objective is anything other than getting into the B1G?

The Jayhawks would be an even worse fit in the SEC than their blood rivals 2.5 hours to the east — and that's saying something.
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(05-02-2022 04:42 AM)XLance Wrote:  One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.

IMO, no question on "anticipating" at a mininum.

This is doubling down -- i.e. sending a message "Hey, look everybody - Kansas is finally getting serious about football" that's sure to appear in most every story about "Big Two" expansion.

Question for the board: Does anyone think KU's far and away No. 1 objective is anything other than getting into the B1G?

The Jayhawks would be an even worse fit in the SEC than their blood rivals 2.5 hours to the east — and that's saying something.


Pete......back in the day, it was widely agreed on this board that most of the value of the Big 12 rested in 4 schools (Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and West Virginia).

I would imagine that if the B1G were going to expand again they would be looking at an AAU school that had some value.
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I am just a guy that lives in Ohio. There is zero buzz of KU to the B10. Moreover, they have enough bad football programs in the B10 already to add another school that can’t compete in football. Schools like Ohio State and a Michigan who used to always sell out their stadium are now seeing a hit in attendance when a Rutgers or Indiana come to town. Now you want to add another school that fans won’t show up to see?
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(05-02-2022 08:41 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 08:22 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 04:42 AM)XLance Wrote:  One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.

IMO, no question on "anticipating" at a mininum.

This is doubling down -- i.e. sending a message "Hey, look everybody - Kansas is finally getting serious about football" that's sure to appear in most every story about "Big Two" expansion.

Question for the board: Does anyone think KU's far and away No. 1 objective is anything other than getting into the B1G?

The Jayhawks would be an even worse fit in the SEC than their blood rivals 2.5 hours to the east — and that's saying something.


Pete......back in the day, it was widely agreed on this board that most of the value of the Big 12 rested in 4 schools (Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and West Virginia).

I would imagine that if the B1G were going to expand again they would be looking at an AAU school that had some value.

Kansas, UNC, Duke and UVA to the SEC.

WVU, Cincinnati, UCF and Houston to the ACC, along with whatever else ESPN wants to keep from the Big XII.

P5 takes over March Madness, changes the revenue distribution. SEC gets richer.
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(05-02-2022 11:38 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 08:41 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 08:22 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 04:42 AM)XLance Wrote:  One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.

IMO, no question on "anticipating" at a mininum.

This is doubling down -- i.e. sending a message "Hey, look everybody - Kansas is finally getting serious about football" that's sure to appear in most every story about "Big Two" expansion.

Question for the board: Does anyone think KU's far and away No. 1 objective is anything other than getting into the B1G?

The Jayhawks would be an even worse fit in the SEC than their blood rivals 2.5 hours to the east — and that's saying something.


Pete......back in the day, it was widely agreed on this board that most of the value of the Big 12 rested in 4 schools (Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and West Virginia).

I would imagine that if the B1G were going to expand again they would be looking at an AAU school that had some value.

Kansas, UNC, Duke and UVA to the SEC.

WVU, Cincinnati, UCF and Houston to the ACC, along with whatever else ESPN wants to keep from the Big XII.

P5 takes over March Madness, changes the revenue distribution. SEC gets richer.

Kansas to the SEC makes more sense to me than Kansas to the B10. The SEC gets to revive the Kansas/Missouri rivalry and adds a hoops Blue Blood. They have enough strength at the top and middle that adding a weaker school for FB is not harmful.
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(05-02-2022 11:38 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 08:41 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 08:22 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 04:42 AM)XLance Wrote:  One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.

IMO, no question on "anticipating" at a mininum.

This is doubling down -- i.e. sending a message "Hey, look everybody - Kansas is finally getting serious about football" that's sure to appear in most every story about "Big Two" expansion.

Question for the board: Does anyone think KU's far and away No. 1 objective is anything other than getting into the B1G?

The Jayhawks would be an even worse fit in the SEC than their blood rivals 2.5 hours to the east — and that's saying something.


Pete......back in the day, it was widely agreed on this board that most of the value of the Big 12 rested in 4 schools (Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas and West Virginia).

I would imagine that if the B1G were going to expand again they would be looking at an AAU school that had some value.

Kansas, UNC, Duke and UVA to the SEC.

WVU, Cincinnati, UCF and Houston to the ACC, along with whatever else ESPN wants to keep from the Big XII.

P5 takes over March Madness, changes the revenue distribution. SEC gets richer.

Well, Mark that has been one of JR's predictions.

Just how would you divide those 20 teams into four "pods"?
I'm thinking:
UVa, Duke, Carolina, South Carolina, Georgia
Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, A&M
Arkansas, LSU, Ole Miss, Miss. State, Alabama
Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, Kentucky
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(05-02-2022 08:22 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 04:42 AM)XLance Wrote:  One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.

IMO, no question on "anticipating" at a mininum.

This is doubling down -- i.e. sending a message "Hey, look everybody - Kansas is finally getting serious about football" that's sure to appear in most every story about "Big Two" expansion.

Question for the board: Does anyone think KU's far and away No. 1 objective is anything other than getting into the B1G?

The Jayhawks would be an even worse fit in the SEC than their blood rivals 2.5 hours to the east — and that's saying something.

KU’s #1 objective is to be attractive in any expansion discussion by the B1G, SEC, PAC or ACC. Evaluating their chances,

1) B1G needs to strengthen football, so KU investing in football makes sense. The B1G is unlikely to expand in the short term, so KU football has time to improve. KU to the B1G would take a lot of luck.
2) SEC needs to improve basketball and KU provides a blue-blood program. Unfortunately, the SEC also has higher football and financial thresholds than KU is able to currently deliver. Therefore, KU needs to help breakaway the tournament from the NCAA while improving its football. KU investing in football helps its chances with the SEC…and the SEC could be their ideal destination.
3) PAC would benefit from CTZ programs, but only if the program fits the PAC profile and adds financial value. Investing in football should enhance KU’s value. KU’s profile seems consistent with PAC standards. The chances of getting an invitation from the PAC are probably somewhere between the B1G (very low) and SEC.
4) ACC needs media revenue and ESPN may try to strengthen it’s hold on college brands by moving key B12 programs. KU could be the leader of a group (say KU, Ok State and TCU) geographic expansion by the ACC. It’s a long shot, but investing in football doesn’t hurt KU.

Bottom-line, investing in football helps keep KU at or near the top of every conferences’ expansion list.
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(10-01-2021 01:03 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  
(09-29-2021 11:42 PM)EdwordL Wrote:  
(06-22-2017 10:52 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Hard to believe that KU doesn't have an indoor practice facility. Good to see KU positioning themselves for whatever opportunity comes along in the future. I would expect you'll see similar activity at Big 12 programs not named Texas or Oklahoma the next few years. Exciting times....
CJ

KU does have an indoor practice facility. It is only a couple of years old. A number of posters on Phog consider that it was a failing of the AD not to ensure that the building had a red roof consonant with the red roofs of other buildings on the campus.

According to this

https://kuathletics.com/facilities/indoo...-facility/

Kansas indoor practice facility opened in 2019. My post you quoted was from 6/22/2017. Two years before Kansas indoor practice facility opened.

So at the time I posted my comment Kansas didn’t have an indoor practice facility.

I think Jim committed what could be classified as a Cardinal Sin.
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(05-02-2022 03:36 PM)Wahoowa84 Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 08:22 AM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  
(05-02-2022 04:42 AM)XLance Wrote:  One could speculate that Kansas may be anticipating or has assurances of a bigger paydays than the Big 12 can deliver.

IMO, no question on "anticipating" at a mininum.

This is doubling down -- i.e. sending a message "Hey, look everybody - Kansas is finally getting serious about football" that's sure to appear in most every story about "Big Two" expansion.

Question for the board: Does anyone think KU's far and away No. 1 objective is anything other than getting into the B1G?

The Jayhawks would be an even worse fit in the SEC than their blood rivals 2.5 hours to the east — and that's saying something.

KU’s #1 objective is to be attractive in any expansion discussion by the B1G, SEC, PAC or ACC. Evaluating their chances,

1) B1G needs to strengthen football, so KU investing in football makes sense. The B1G is unlikely to expand in the short term, so KU football has time to improve. KU to the B1G would take a lot of luck.
2) SEC needs to improve basketball and KU provides a blue-blood program. Unfortunately, the SEC also has higher football and financial thresholds than KU is able to currently deliver. Therefore, KU needs to help breakaway the tournament from the NCAA while improving its football. KU investing in football helps its chances with the SEC…and the SEC could be their ideal destination.
3) PAC would benefit from CTZ programs, but only if the program fits the PAC profile and adds financial value. Investing in football should enhance KU’s value. KU’s profile seems consistent with PAC standards. The chances of getting an invitation from the PAC are probably somewhere between the B1G (very low) and SEC.
4) ACC needs media revenue and ESPN may try to strengthen it’s hold on college brands by moving key B12 programs. KU could be the leader of a group (say KU, Ok State and TCU) geographic expansion by the ACC. It’s a long shot, but investing in football doesn’t hurt KU.

Bottom-line, investing in football helps keep KU at or near the top of every conferences’ expansion list.

The goal is to get into the B1G or the SEC. And if the P leagues break from the NCAA and start their own basketball tournament, KU's value goes up immensely.

There is nothing Southern about KU. It's Free State University. But don't sleep on KU to the SEC, especially if the NCAA loses the basketball tournament. It's not in the South, but it's 40 miles from it. :-) In this scenario, they're reunited with blood rival Missouri and historic rival Oklahoma. KU offers great basketball and a football team most SEC schools can beat, even with improved coaching and facilities.
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