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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
(11-01-2018 02:58 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
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Quote:AT&T promised at the beginning of the year that it would be launching a real, standards-based 5G network at the end of 2018, and during its latest earning call, CEO John Donovan confirmed those plans, promising that the network would be launching “in the next few weeks,” via Phone Scoop.

This would be an authentic next-generation 5G network, unlike the “5G Evolution” network that it rolled out last year, which essentially amounted to the same 4G LTE improvements that its competitors were doing under some creative branding.

https://www.theverge.com/2018/10/24/1801...ork-launch

5G rollout continues to be slow. The big 3 (Verizon, AT&T, T-Mobile) have promised 2018 for rollout to get people to buy into their platforms. Most of their products (anything older than 6 months) are not yet enabled for it.

For mobile broadband against cable internet delivery, speed and cost aren't the real issue anymore as much as the data caps. Streaming for as little as 20 hours a week is going to require 200GB to support it, way over the 22GB-50GB data caps by the mobile broadband companies.

Yes they still give you some data after those caps but its unworkable during peak times (even within the cap using 4G). Data caps need to be bumped up to 500GB before it becomes a plausible alternative to home internet.

Speaking of that. T-Mobile was suppose to rollout their own OTT TV package when the bought Layer3. I haven't found anything stating when they will go live just that they still plan on rolling it out by 2018.

Maybe it will be in conjunction with their 5G towers coming online.

Layer3 requires DSL. The Layer3 box connects directly into your cable modem.

Its IPTV with a cable form of delivery basically. Minimum price is $90 including the box. Its designed to compete against high end cable packages and not those wanting to save money cutting the cord.
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Quote:Verizon has overhauled its prepaid plans and has a very pleasant surprise in store - they are offering a prepaid Unlimited Jetpack/Tablet plan for $65/month with autopay discount, with no high speed data caps!

Yes, you heard that right, Verizon once again has an unlimited data plan with no throttle for data-only devices (but see all the details and caveats below).

https://www.rvmobileinternet.com/verizon...-jetpacks/

Unlimited unthrottled jetpacks are a potential replacement of home internet even at the 4G level but of course its not going to be as good as a 200 mpbs DSL connection.

Quote:5G is here, and it’s going to change everything. From the way you communicate to the way you game.

And it all starts with Verizon 5G Home with speed of about 300 Mbps. It’s the first ever 5G-powered home internet that can connect all your devices. It’s ultra-fast internet that’s ready for what comes next.

https://www.verizonwireless.com/5g/home/

The jetpack model seems like its not going to be the home internet model in the the future with Verizon unrolling 5G in limited markets with a home internet device (looks like a new generation home wifi router).

When they say limited market rollout they mean "limited" market rollout.

The density of 5G receivers has to be about 1 a block to be effective compared with a fraction of the density needed with 4G. If you live in a municipality where its sluggish getting any telecom upgrades done forget about 5G anytime soon.

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Hulu is available until Monday for $.99/month for 12 months. This doesnt include Live TV but includes their commercial on demand package. A great deal
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Quote:AT&T said Friday that it has successfully completed the first 5G browsing session using a commercial-grade device. The test took place in Waco, Texas.

You can buy the device, a Netgear Nighthawk 5G Mobile Hotspot, for use in 5G test regions later this year. AT&T has yet to reveal a specific release date or pricing for the device.

The company had completed the first 5G data transfer in September, but that was using test equipment, not a device everyday consumers will be able to buy.

AT&T's plan is to start rolling out 5G in 12 cities, including Dallas, Atlanta and Oklahoma City. Then, next year, another 19 cities will gain access, including Los Angeles, San Francisco and Las Vegas.

https://www.cnet.com/news/at-t-reveals-5...peed-test/

AT&T Nighthawk is debuting this December and is the closest thing on the market to a true 5G Jetpack.

Its a 5G hotspot that can be stacked with AT&T phone service for device savings and with AT&T's Watch TV service (37 channels and similar to Philo in price).

A shared 9GB plan between a phone and a hotspot is only 40 dollars a month with 20 dollars per device cost. I've heard its possible to share an "unlimited" plan that goes up to 100GB before throttling but couldn't confirm on the AT&T website.

Verizon you can combine a Jetpack w/ a cell prepaid plan for unlimited data. But the Jetpacks for sale aren't quite to the 5G standard yet.
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Sling TV has added the Tennis Channel to their sports package
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
As of 12/19/2018
From a sports fan perspective (English Language Only). This does not include any temporary promotional prices

$10/month - Sling World Sports - BEIN Sports, BEIN Spanish, Outside TV, Willow TV, Willow TV Extra, Trace Sports Stars, Nautical Channel
An easy way to add BEIN if your main provider doesnt carry it or if BEIN is all you want. Willow is a cricket network too.

$15/month - AT&T Watch TV - TBS/TNT/TruTV
New plan included in certain AT&T phone plans and available for stand alone purchase that includes all the Turner Networks for MLB/NBA/NCAA

$25/month - Sling Orange - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, TBS, TNT
The cheapest price point available to get ESPN/2/TBS/TNT

$25/month - Sling Blue - FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Local FOX/NBC affiliate and RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTV, NFL Network
The cheapest price point available to get FOX/NBC/Turner/NFL Network/RSN

$30/month - Sling Orange & Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, SEC Network, TBS, TNT, PAC 12 Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV, Motorsport TV
The cheapest price point available to get all ESPN Networks, TBS, and TNT with some other specialty sport networks.

$35/month - Sling Blue & Sports Pack - FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Local Fox/NBC Affiliate and RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTv, NFL Network, NFL RedZone, NBA Network, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, Pac 12 Network, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV, Motorsport TV
Gets you pretty much all sports channels except the ESPN Networks, CBSSN, Big 10 Network, and MLB Network.

$40/month - YouTube TV - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX Affiliate and RSN (if available)
YouTube TV is perfect for sports fans who can live without NFL Network, NHL Network, BEIN, and PAC 12 Network

Hulu Live TV is also available at this price point. It includes ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded but does not include Tennis Channel, MLB Network, or NBA Network.

DirecTV Now "Live a Little" is also available at this price point but includes only ESPN/2, FS1, NBCSN, TBS, TNT, TruTV, and Local Channels if available. Also note ESPN 3 content is currently being blocked on the ESPN app for DirecTVNow subscribers

Sling Orange/Blue Combo is also available at $40/month. Sling will get you NFL Network access along with ESPN/2, FS1/2, NBCSN, RSN, and Turner sports at the $40 price point. Hulu and YouTube do not offer NFL Network and DirecTVNow charges more for it. You will not have your CBS affiliate if available, CBSSN, and Big 10 Network along with the Hulu and YouTube Sports Exclusives listed above.

$45/month - FuboTv - FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, PAC 12 Network, NFL Network, NBA Network, BEIN, Eleven Sports, Local NBC/CBS/FOX and RSN (If available)
Fubo has a sports pack available for additional $9/month which will add NFL Redzone and other minor Sports Networks/Alternate feeds like the PAC 12 regional networks, Fox College Sports Network, and Gol TV

$50/month - PS Vue Core - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
If you can live without NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, and Tennis Channel and need the NFL Network, this is the best package for you.

Sling Orange/Blue Combo with Sports is also available at $50/month. The advantage of this over PS Vue at the same price point is NFL Redzone, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, PAC 12 Network, and BEIN. However you lose the MLB Network, Big 10 Network, CBSSN, and your local CBS if available. This is the cheapest way to get NFL Red Zone combined with the ESPN networks.

FuboTv Extra - Is a base package available for $5 more and adds Stadium, Stadium Alternates, and the Tennis Channel
Fubo has a sports pack available for additional $9/month which will add NFL Redzone and other minor Sports Networks/Alternate feeds like the PAC 12 regional networks, Fox College Sports Network, and Gol TV

$55/month - DirecTV Now Just Right - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, NBCSN, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
From a sports fan perspective, the only advantage this has over PS Vue Core is it has the Tennis Channel. PS Vue Core has more sports for cheaper price. Also currently ESPN3 content is blocked on the ESPN app.

$60/month - PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available), SPORTS PACK CHANNELS - NFL Red Zone, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, ESPN Classic, Eleven Sports, the Fox College Sports Networks Trio, Longhorn Network, MLB Strike Zone, Outside TV, Stadium overflow feeds, and National feeds of NESN and NBC RSN's.
This gets you virtually every English Language sports channel except Stadium, NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, and the Tennis Channel

PS Vue added the Tennis Channel and Stadium to their $60 Elite package if Tennis channel is a priority over the channels in the Sports Pack.

$65/month - DirecTV Now Go Big - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTv, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, Sportsman Channel, TVG, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
Only an advantage over PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack if you want NHL Network and Tennis channel instead of NFL Redzone. Also ESPN3 content is currently blocked on the ESPN app

$70/month - PS Vue Elite w/ Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Tennis Channel, Stadium, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available), SPORTS PACK CHANNELS - NFL Red Zone, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, ESPN Classic, Eleven Sports, the Fox College Sports Networks Trio, Longhorn Network, MLB Strike Zone, Outside TV, Stadium overflow feeds, and National feeds of NESN and FOX/NBC RSN's.
This gets you virtually every English Language sports channel except NHL Network, BEIN, and PAC 12 Network.
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Updated PSVUE as they now have a sports pack for $10/month that includes more sports channels. Eligible on the Core and above tiers.
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My family are going to either drop DirecTV Now completely and just use our Antenna and Netflix or shave down further to Philo TV without sports channels. May try out Philo for a bit but we aren't watching as many channels as before since some of the shows just are entertaining enough. If we do use Philo, I'll report how it is. I would like to try them out for a little bit and if we aren't watching as much then will drop completely. I'll get my sports fix from OTA and Stadium.
If the MW goes digital/Stadium then that will make the decision to be a full cord cutter.
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Well, I've dropped DirecTV Now and went to Philo TV. So far so good, no issues and seem to be running better than DTV Now. I wanted to drop it completely, but the fam decided they needed a few cable channels. So Philo is a cable package without news or sports channels and therefore is pretty inexpensive. $16/month.

I'll be getting my sports from OTA, Stadium and MW Network.
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Does OTA get you just the basic ABC, NBC, FOX, and CBS?
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(01-03-2019 10:49 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Does OTA get you just the basic ABC, NBC, FOX, and CBS?

Depending on your area. Most areas get at least those 4. Most networks have standard definition sub channels too.

In Wilmington we get ABC, CBS, CW, Fox, and PBS. We also have an independent network. Our NBC affiliate has sub channels for SD digital networks Bounce (African American Network), Escape (Crime Drama) and Laugh (Comedy). Our Fox Affiliate has the same for This TV (Old Movies), Gritt (Westerns) and Ion. Our Indy station has sub channels for Me TV (Classic TV) and Stadium (Sports).

Overall I get 18 channels for free with an antenna. Bigger markets get into the 40s and 50s
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(01-03-2019 10:49 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  Does OTA get you just the basic ABC, NBC, FOX, and CBS?

More than that. As Solohawks stated above, there are sub-channels that give area's a lot more channels. Here in Amarillo, I get 37 channels, 30 channels excluding the religious and shopping channels.
Some sub-channels are are HD, depends on the station and how the split the bandwidth.
Here the CW is on the sub-channel of the main station but it is in HD.
I get Get TV, Laff, Grit, Quest, MeTv, Buzzer, Ion, H&I, Comet, Stadium...etc.
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(12-19-2018 11:05 AM)solohawks Wrote:  $40/month - YouTube TV - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX Affiliate and RSN (if available)
YouTube TV is perfect for sports fans who can live without NFL Network, NHL Network, BEIN, and PAC 12 Network

Hulu Live TV is also available at this price point. It includes ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded but does not include Tennis Channel, MLB Network, or NBA Network.

Having CBS Sports I think is key if you are fan of G5 sports since MAC, CUSA and MWC show up on there quite a lot.

What I like also about these OTT distributors is if you want to add on movie channels you can without having separate log-ins that you would need if you wanted to order them directly.

With Hulu switch from a subscription from Showtime to Starz and then back again in 30 seconds. Cable providers put the premiums in a bundle so you'll have to cancel the whole bundle if you want to switch.

Hulu also has it where you can have a no commercials subscription for 12 dollars and then for 30 dollars add HBO, Cinemax and Showtime for movies with no network television.

Philo for $16 dollars might be able to offer something similar plus give you a small amount of cable channels.
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Tennis Channel is now available on Fubo.
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(01-18-2019 01:36 PM)solohawks Wrote:  Tennis Channel is now available on Fubo.

updated.
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