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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
With all the Price Increases I figured I would update this "By Price Point" Breakdown
From a sports fan perspective (English Language Only). This does not include any temporary promotional prices

$15/month - AT&T Watch TV - TBS/TNT/TruTV
New plan included in certain AT&T phone plans and available for stand alone purchase that includes all the Turner Networks.

$25/month - Sling Orange - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, TBS, TNT
The cheapest price point available to get ESPN/2/TBS/TNT

$25/month - Sling Blue - FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Local FOX/NBC affiliate and RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTV, NFL Network
The cheapest price point available to get FOX/NBC/Turner/NFL Network/RSN

$30/month - Sling Orange & Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, SEC Network, TBS, TNT, PAC 12 Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV, Motorsport TV
The cheapest price point available to get all ESPN Networks, TBS, and TNT with some other specialty sport networks.

$35/month - Sling Blue & Sports Pack - FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Local Fox/NBC Affiliate and RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTv, NFL Network, NFL RedZone, NBA Network, NHL Network, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, Pac 12 Network, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV, Motorsport TV
Gets you pretty much all sports channels except the ESPN Networks, CBSSN, Big 10 Network, MLB Network, and Tennis Channel.

$40/month - YouTube TV - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX Affiliate and RSN (if available)
YouTube TV is perfect for sports fans who can live without NFL Network, NHL Network, BEIN, and PAC 12 Network

Hulu Live TV is also available at this price point. It includes ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded but does not include Tennis Channel, MLB Network, or NBA Network.

DirecTV Now "Live a Little" is also available at this price point but includes only ESPN/2, FS1, NBCSN, TBS, TNT, TruTV, and Local Channels if available.

Sling Orange/Blue Combo is also available at $40/month. Sling will get you NFL Network access along with ESPN/2, FS1/2, NBCSN, RSN, and Turner sports at the $40 price point. Hulu and YouTube do not offer NFL Network and DirecTVNow charges more for it. You will not have your CBS affiliate if available, CBSSN, and Big 10 Network along with the Hulu and YouTube Sports Exclusives listed above.

$45/month - FuboTv - FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, PAC 12 Network, NFL Network, NBA Network, BEIN, Eleven Sports, Local NBC/CBS/FOX and RSN (If available)
Fubo has a sports pack available for additional $9/month which will add NFL Redzone and other minor Sports Networks/Alternate feeds like Stadium

$50/month - PS Vue Core - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
If you can live without NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, and Tennis Channel and need the NFL Network, this is the best package for you.

Sling Orange/Blue Combo with Sports is also available at $50/month. The advantage of this over PS Vue at the same price point is NFL Redzone, NHL Network, PAC 12 Network, and BEIN. However you lose the MLB Network, Big 10 Network, CBSSN, and your local CBS if available. This is the cheapest way to get NFL Red Zone combined with the ESPN networks.

$55/month - DirecTV Now Just Right - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, NBCSN, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
From a sports fan perspective, the only advantage this has over PS Vue Core is it has the Tennis Channel. PS Vue Core has more sports for cheaper price.

$60/month - PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available), SPORTS PACK CHANNELS - NFL Red Zone, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, ESPN Classic, Eleven Sports, the Fox College Sports Networks Trio, Longhorn Network, MLB Strike Zone, Outside TV, and National feeds of NESN and NBC RSN's.
This gets you virtually every English Language sports channel except NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, and the Tennis Channel

$65/month - DirecTV Now Go Big - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTv, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, Sportsman Channel, TVG, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
Only an advantage over PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack if you want NHL Network and Tennis channel instead of NFL Redzone
(This post was last modified: 08-01-2018 12:35 PM by solohawks.)
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
T-Mobile's 5G service at the 600 MHz frequency that can penetrate buildings has started carrier aggregation with a limited number of phones which can pick up the signal.

They have a deal which is 2 lines of 50GB data for $120 plus a netflix subscription thrown in. It might be possible to replace home internet service with it. Do a 2 for 1 deal with an S9 and a LG V30 which has a great battery as a hotspot phone.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/save-much...45276.html

Quote:Included in today's announcement are some details on T-Mobile's upcoming 600MHz plans. Starting this month, T-Mobile will begin enabling carrier aggregation for 600MHz LTE and mid-band LTE, which will allow customers with capable devices to access the capacity of both at the same time and get faster download speeds. T-Mobile also says that it plans to start deploying 600MHz Extended Range LTE in Puerto Rico this fall.

T-Mobile spent nearly $8 billion on 600MHz licenses in an FCC spectrum auction last year, and lately it's been aggressively deploying the coverage across the country. It's easy to understand why, because the 600MHz LTE signal reaches twice as far as T-Mobile's mid-band LTE and is also four times better at penetrating buildings.

In order to access T-Mobile's 600MHz LTE coverage, you'll need a compatible device. T-Mobile currently sells six devices 600MHz devices — the Galaxy S9, Galaxy S9+, Galaxy S8 Active, LG G7 ThinQ, LG V30, and LG K30 — and T-Mo says that more than 12 additional 600MHz devices will launch in 2018.

https://www.phonedog.com/2018/06/06/t-mo...00-markets
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(07-03-2018 08:24 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  T-Mobile's 5G service at the 600 MHz frequency that can penetrate buildings has started carrier aggregation with a limited number of phones which can pick up the signal.

They have a deal which is 2 lines of 50GB data for $120 plus a netflix subscription thrown in. It might be possible to replace home internet service with it. Do a 2 for 1 deal with an S9 and a LG V30 which has a gbreat battery as a hotspot phone.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/save-much...45276.html

Quote:Included in today's announcement are some details on T-Mobile's upcoming 600MHz plans. Starting this month, T-Mobile will begin enabling carrier aggregation for 600MHz LTE and mid-band LTE, which will allow customers with capable devices to access the capacity of both at the same time and get faster download speeds. T-Mobile also says that it plans to start deploying 600MHz Extended Range LTE in Puerto Rico this fall.

T-Mobile spent nearly $8 billion on 600MHz licenses in an FCC spectrum auction last year, and lately it's been aggressively deploying the coverage across the country. It's easy to understand why, because the 600MHz LTE signal reaches twice as far as T-Mobile's mid-band LTE and is also four times better at penetrating buildings.

In order to access T-Mobile's 600MHz LTE coverage, you'll need a compatible device. T-Mobile currently sells six devices 600MHz devices — the Galaxy S9, Galaxy S9+, Galaxy S8 Active, LG G7 ThinQ, LG V30, and LG K30 — and T-Mo says that more than 12 additional 600MHz devices will launch in 2018.

https://www.phonedog.com/2018/06/06/t-mo...00-markets

This could complement the T-Mo TV that is rolling out at the end of the year.
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Updated pricing for Direct TV Now & PSVue. Both have raised their prices by $5 for all tiers.

Looks like we are getting into some price creep here.
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I don't know if it has been mentioned here or not, but AT&T has a new "skinny" streaming bundle that rivals Philo at $15/mo. No sports channels, but a lot of quality cable channels are represented. If you have AT&T cellular service, depending on your plan you might have it for free.

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/at...202852886/
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(07-30-2018 08:23 AM)AssyrianDuke Wrote:  I don't know if it has been mentioned here or not, but AT&T has a new "skinny" streaming bundle that rivals Philo at $15/mo. No sports channels, but a lot of quality cable channels are represented. If you have AT&T cellular service, depending on your plan you might have it for free.

https://variety.com/2018/digital/news/at...202852886/

Thanks for the info. I may switch to that instead of Philo. It has some channels that my family watches over Philo for the same price.
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I've update the OP to reflect the new info about AT&T Watch TV package.

Soon I have to wonder if Sony will offer something similar in addition to the PS Vue. Or if Sling will offer a package without sports channels also.
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I’ve had YouTubeTV for a year now and I’ve been happy with the service. I got grandfathered in on the $35 package which is now $40. They’ve been adding channels like CNN, TBS, TNT and MyTV. I hope they can add PBS, Bloomberg and NFL Network soon. There’s no CW, MTV, VH1, Univision and
Pac-12 but I can live without them.
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DirecTV Now has added NFL Network as of this morning.

Update:
It is in their $55 package and higher. Also there is no redzone option at this time
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(08-01-2018 06:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  DirecTV Now has added NFL Network as of this morning.

Update:
It is in their $55 package and higher. Also there is no redzone option at this time

Thanks! Post is updated with info.

I'm still getting CBSSN with my $40 tier. Not sure if there is a glitch as to why I'm getting it or if they move CBSSN to the lowest level. Guess, I'll have to wait to make sure it still on when football season comes on. It will help me watch some MW games.
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More price increase news.

I was just notified by Hulu they are bumping up the price of Showtine from 8.99 to 10.99 effective October 1st.
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(08-02-2018 09:17 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 06:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  DirecTV Now has added NFL Network as of this morning.

Update:
It is in their $55 package and higher. Also there is no redzone option at this time

Thanks! Post is updated with info.

I'm still getting CBSSN with my $40 tier. Not sure if there is a glitch as to why I'm getting it or if they move CBSSN to the lowest level. Guess, I'll have to wait to make sure it still on when football season comes on. It will help me watch some MW games.

That is a nice plus. You ever though of switching to YouTube TV? Same $40 price point but more sports channels.
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(08-02-2018 03:02 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(08-02-2018 09:17 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 06:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  DirecTV Now has added NFL Network as of this morning.

Update:
It is in their $55 package and higher. Also there is no redzone option at this time

Thanks! Post is updated with info.

I'm still getting CBSSN with my $40 tier. Not sure if there is a glitch as to why I'm getting it or if they move CBSSN to the lowest level. Guess, I'll have to wait to make sure it still on when football season comes on. It will help me watch some MW games.

That is a nice plus. You ever though of switching to YouTube TV? Same $40 price point but more sports channels.

I looked into it but my current package has the non-sports channels the rest of the family likes. I'm just waiting to see in the CBSSN was actually dropped to the lowest tier and not at the $65 tier anymore.
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(08-02-2018 03:06 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(08-02-2018 03:02 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(08-02-2018 09:17 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 06:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  DirecTV Now has added NFL Network as of this morning.

Update:
It is in their $55 package and higher. Also there is no redzone option at this time

Thanks! Post is updated with info.

I'm still getting CBSSN with my $40 tier. Not sure if there is a glitch as to why I'm getting it or if they move CBSSN to the lowest level. Guess, I'll have to wait to make sure it still on when football season comes on. It will help me watch some MW games.

That is a nice plus. You ever though of switching to YouTube TV? Same $40 price point but more sports channels.

I looked into it but my current package has the non-sports channels the rest of the family likes. I'm just waiting to see in the CBSSN was actually dropped to the lowest tier and not at the $65 tier anymore.

I hope it stays active for you. Did the NFL network turn on for you as well?
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(08-02-2018 03:15 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(08-02-2018 03:06 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(08-02-2018 03:02 PM)solohawks Wrote:  
(08-02-2018 09:17 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(08-01-2018 06:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  DirecTV Now has added NFL Network as of this morning.

Update:
It is in their $55 package and higher. Also there is no redzone option at this time

Thanks! Post is updated with info.

I'm still getting CBSSN with my $40 tier. Not sure if there is a glitch as to why I'm getting it or if they move CBSSN to the lowest level. Guess, I'll have to wait to make sure it still on when football season comes on. It will help me watch some MW games.

That is a nice plus. You ever though of switching to YouTube TV? Same $40 price point but more sports channels.

I looked into it but my current package has the non-sports channels the rest of the family likes. I'm just waiting to see in the CBSSN was actually dropped to the lowest tier and not at the $65 tier anymore.

I hope it stays active for you. Did the NFL network turn on for you as well?

No it didn't, even though I got an email stating it was added to my lineup. So I guess it was a general email that the NFL network is added but on a higher tier.
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Hulu Live TV review which is not the most flattering and does talk about how the costs start to stack up with the IPTVs.

Personally I don't see the value in paying for DVR service when almost everything is on demand anyways.



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I found an article dated 8/10/15 that details the price points require for each channel from the live internet TV services.

https://www.techhive.com/article/3211536...vices.html

They all seem to have their own faults.

-Direct TV now requires a $65 dollar tier for CBS Sports.
-FuboTV doesn't have ESPN.
-Hulu doesn't offer Starz, Sundance or IFC.
-Philo is cheap but is limited to the family pack.
-PS Vue required $50 dollar tier for ESPNU, CBS Sports.
-Sling doesn't have CBS Sports.
-AT&T Watch is cheap but doesn't offer anything.
-YouTube doesn't offer HBO or Cinemax.

Hulu no-commercials, live TV +HBO/Showtime is $69 dollars which I contend is the best deal because they are also throwing in their own independent movie house.

PS Vue will run you $80 for the same, albeit with more overall channels and no studio. DirectTV is $78 dollars.

Hulu also gives you the option to put your account on hold for 3 months if you aren't using it. You could also rotate with sports vs. shows depending on the season.

September-April: Hulu Live TV ($44)
April-September: Hulu/HBO/Showtime ($37)

3 studios is quite a bit of content to shift through IMO.
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