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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
Shopping around for mobile broadband data at the moment to see if anything is economical enough to replace DSL.

-Verizon unlimited data wireless+jet pack ($110 dollars plus taxes/fees). If you figure you'll usually use 8GB data a month on the phone, necessitating a 50 dollar plan to be able to go unlimited also on a jet pack for $60 dollars more isn't bad. Fees though with Verizon tend to be high.

-Sprint 50GB ($50 plus taxes). Good price point and good data allotment. The traditional 22GB mobile limit isn't enough for most users. Free Hulu with Sprint account.

-T-Mobile unlimited ($70 per month). A little more expensive but unlimited. Throttling begins now at 50GB which is a lot better than previous 22GB industry cutoff point. Add in free Netflix with account.

-AT&T 25GB ($40 plus taxes). A more moderate data option that might work for some users. Cellphone plan at 40 dollars includes free HBO and 10 dollar DirectTVnow subscription.

-MetroPCS 16GB ($50 dollars). They just brought in the jetpack a couple of months ago. Their pricing is better than T-Mobile's old data plan where it would be $55 dollars for 14GB but otherwise not the most competitive offer. For $125 the jetpack could support 54GB of data.

-Boost Mobile unlimted wireless with 20GB mobile hotspot ($60 dollars). It could be the best of the second tier carriers if the plan is to use a phone as a jetpack. Sprint network with better coverage than MetroPCS.

-Cricket unlimited wireless with 8GB mobile hotspot ($55 dollars). At 8GB its not possible to meet data needs for a household.
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
(02-16-2018 01:55 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Shopping around for mobile broadband data at the moment to see if anything is economical enough to replace DSL.

-Verizon unlimited data wireless+jet pack ($110 dollars plus taxes/fees). If you figure you'll usually use 8GB data a month on the phone, necessitating a 50 dollar plan to be able to go unlimited also on a jet pack for $60 dollars more isn't bad. Fees though with Verizon tend to be high.

-Sprint 50GB ($50 plus taxes). Good price point and good data allotment. The traditional 22GB mobile limit isn't enough for most users. Free Hulu with Sprint account.

-T-Mobile unlimited ($70 per month). A little more expensive but unlimited. Throttling begins now at 50GB which is a lot better than previous 22GB industry cutoff point. Add in free Netflix with account.

-AT&T 25GB ($40 plus taxes). A more moderate data option that might work for some users. Cellphone plan at 40 dollars includes free HBO and 10 dollar DirectTVnow subscription.

-MetroPCS 16GB ($50 dollars). They just brought in the jetpack a couple of months ago. Their pricing is better than T-Mobile's old data plan where it would be $55 dollars for 14GB but otherwise not the most competitive offer. For $125 the jetpack could support 54GB of data.

-Boost Mobile unlimted wireless with 20GB mobile hotspot ($60 dollars). It could be the best of the second tier carriers if the plan is to use a phone as a jetpack. Sprint network with better coverage than MetroPCS.

-Cricket unlimited wireless with 8GB mobile hotspot ($55 dollars). At 8GB its not possible to meet data needs for a household.

Great summary! Thanks for this as I was wondering if the wireless carriers as getting to the point where I can get off of DSL.
I think as 5G rolls out we may see more competition with the phone carriers competing in the internet arena.
I'm keeping an eye on T Mobile and the Spectrum they bought. There are phones currently being made for the specific band they purchased that gives better coverage and penetration in buildings.
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
I figured I would add my recommendations of service by price point from a sports fan perspective (English Language). This does not include any temporary promotional prices

$20/month - Sling Orange - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, TBS, TNT
The cheapest price point available

$25/month - Sling Blue - FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Local FOX/NBC affiliate and RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTV, NFL Network
Good if you don't need ESPN Networks

$25/month - Sling Orange & Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3 content, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, SEC Network, TBS, TNT, PAC 12 Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV, Motorsport TV
Good if you primarily care about ESPN Networks

$35/month - Sling Blue & Sports Pack - FS1, FS2, NBCSN, Local Fox/NBC Affiliate and RSN (if available), TBS, TNT, TruTv, NFL Network, NFL RedZone, NBA Network, NHL Network, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, Pac 12 Network, BEIN Sports, Stadium, OutsideTV, Motorsport TV
Gets you pretty much all sports channels except the ESPN Networks, CBSSN, Big 10 Network, MLB Network, and Tennis Channel.

$35/month - DirecTV Live a Little - ESPN, ESPN2, FS1, NBCSN, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX Affiliate (if available)
The cheapest option to get all the major national networks.

$40/month - YouTube TV - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX Affiliate and RSN (if available)
YouTube TV is perfect for sports fans who can live without NFL Network, NHL Network, BEIN, or PAC 12 Network
Hulu Live TV is also available at this price point. It includes ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded but does not include Tennis Channel, MLB Network, or NBA Network.

Sling Orange/Blue Combo is also available at $40/month but the only advantage of this package is you get NFL Network access along with ESPN and ESPN2, which Hulu and YouTube do not offer. You also lose your CBS affiliate if available, CBSSN, and Big 10 Network along with the Hulu and Youtube Sports Exclusives listed above.

$45/month - PS Vue Core - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
If you can live without NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, or Tennis Channel and need the NFL Network, this is the best package for you.

FuboTv Premier is also available for $45/month if BEIN and PAC 12 Network is a priority and you do not mind giving up the ESPN Networks and MLB Network.

$50/month - DirecTV Now Just Right - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, NBCSN, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, Tennis Channel, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
From a sports fan perspective, the only advantage this has over PS Vue Core is it has the Tennis Channel. PS Vue Core has more sports for cheaper price.

Sling Orange/Blue Combo with Sports is also available at $50/month. The advantage of this over PS Vue at $45/month is NFL Redzone, NHL Network, PAC 12 Network, and BEIN. However you lose the Big 10 Network, CBSSN, and your local CBS if available. This is the cheapest way to get NFL Red Zone along with the ESPN Networks.

$55/month - PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available), SPORTS PACK CHANNELS - NFL Red Zone, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, ESPN Classic, Eleven Sports, the Fox College Sports Networks Trio, Longhorn Network, MLB Strike Zone, Outside TV, and National feeds of NESN and NBC RSN's.
This gets you virtually every English Language sports channel except NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, and the Tennis Channel

$60/month - DirecTV Now Go Big - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTv, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, Sportsman Channel, TVG, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
Only an advantage over PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack if you want NHL Network and Tennis channel instead of NFL Network and NFL Redzone
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
(02-16-2018 08:27 AM)MWC Tex Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 01:55 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  Shopping around for mobile broadband data at the moment to see if anything is economical enough to replace DSL.

-Verizon unlimited data wireless+jet pack ($110 dollars plus taxes/fees). If you figure you'll usually use 8GB data a month on the phone, necessitating a 50 dollar plan to be able to go unlimited also on a jet pack for $60 dollars more isn't bad. Fees though with Verizon tend to be high.

-Sprint 50GB ($50 plus taxes). Good price point and good data allotment. The traditional 22GB mobile limit isn't enough for most users. Free Hulu with Sprint account.

-T-Mobile unlimited ($70 per month). A little more expensive but unlimited. Throttling begins now at 50GB which is a lot better than previous 22GB industry cutoff point. Add in free Netflix with account.

-AT&T 25GB ($40 plus taxes). A more moderate data option that might work for some users. Cellphone plan at 40 dollars includes free HBO and 10 dollar DirectTVnow subscription.

-MetroPCS 16GB ($50 dollars). They just brought in the jetpack a couple of months ago. Their pricing is better than T-Mobile's old data plan where it would be $55 dollars for 14GB but otherwise not the most competitive offer. For $125 the jetpack could support 54GB of data.

-Boost Mobile unlimted wireless with 20GB mobile hotspot ($60 dollars). It could be the best of the second tier carriers if the plan is to use a phone as a jetpack. Sprint network with better coverage than MetroPCS.

-Cricket unlimited wireless with 8GB mobile hotspot ($55 dollars). At 8GB its not possible to meet data needs for a household.

Great summary! Thanks for this as I was wondering if the wireless carriers as getting to the point where I can get off of DSL.
I think as 5G rolls out we may see more competition with the phone carriers competing in the internet arena.
I'm keeping an eye on T Mobile and the Spectrum they bought. There are phones currently being made for the specific band they purchased that gives better coverage and penetration in buildings.

Thanks. With AT&T and T-Mobile pushing up to 50GB limits before throttling its becoming actually realistic alternative. I have been waiting for the price point to get there for years on broadband.

I'm not sold yet on the pay IPTV packages. Its a minimum of $25 for a basic IPTV package (more than the price of Showtime & Starz standalone) and by the time you have a decent package together its $55-$60 dollars.

Example 1
AT&T unlimited cell $60 ($66) (Free HBO)
Sprint 50GB Broadband $50 ($55)
Hulu standalone $8
Direct TV now 120 channels $70 ($55 AT&T discount) (Includes Starz)
Total $184.

Example 2
AT&T unlimited cell $60 ($66) (Free HBO)
Hulu standalone $8
Comcast preferred double play 220 channels $90 (Includes Showtime)
Total $164 (another $20-$30 with cable fees).

With fees example 2 is about but as you can see you don't get as much for your money with the pay IPTV. Plus you are dealing with lower quality streams and less of a convenience factor.

Example 3
AT&T unlimited cell $60 ($66) (Free HBO)
Sprint 50GB Broadband $50 ($55)
Direct TV now 60 channels $35 ($20 AT&T discount)
Direct TV now HBO, Showtime $13
Hulu standalone $8
Total $162.

Example 4
Cricket 5GB wireless plan $35
Sprint 50GB Broadband $50 ($55)
Standalone HBO, Showtime, Hulu $35
Total $125.

Its $37 dollars less not to have the IPTV package even with the free HBO from being a AT&T subscriber and discounted direct TV. Major cell carriers tack on fees like cable does. At least they don't constantly increase the price on you.

Example 5
Cricket 5GB wireless plan $35
Sprint 50GB Broadband $50 ($55)
Hulu Live TV $40
HBO, Showtime (Hulu Discount) $16
Total $146.

Hulu at its 40 dollar price point has CBSSN, ESPNU, FS2 which is big for the mid major sports fan. YouTube TV has all of that but you get a much better VOD with Hulu.

The possibility is there to save $50 dollars a month ($1000) pretax and still maintain it at a high quality level. Deal with less hassle compared to having to constantly monitor and renegotiate.
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(02-16-2018 11:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  $55/month - PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available), SPORTS PACK CHANNELS - NFL Red Zone, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, ESPN Classic, Eleven Sports, the Fox College Sports Networks Trio, Longhorn Network, MLB Strike Zone, Outside TV, and National feeds of NESN and NBC RSN's.
This gets you virtually every English Language sports channel except NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, and the Tennis Channel

$60/month - DirecTV Now Go Big - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTv, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, Sportsman Channel, TVG, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
Only an advantage over PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack if you want NHL Network and Tennis channel instead of NFL Network and NFL Redzone

At $55-60 for an IPTV package its at the point where you want to cross compare it with traditional cable packages. Youtube and Hulu at the 40 dollar price point and all of the major sports networks have the price more realistic.

Comcast at $70 dollar offers its Digital Premier package (260+) with all of the premium movie channels for 12 months. With HD service, regional broadcast fee its more in the neighborhood of $90 all inclusive.

https://cabletvinternet.s9.com/xfinity-t...ages-.html

Where I think Comcast is somewhat lacking is in VOD compared to a Hulu or Netflix I've had all the movie channels but when you do you start to run into some duplication.
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(02-28-2018 02:35 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(02-16-2018 11:20 AM)solohawks Wrote:  $55/month - PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTV, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, NFL Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available), SPORTS PACK CHANNELS - NFL Red Zone, ESPN Goal Line/Bases Loaded, ESPN Classic, Eleven Sports, the Fox College Sports Networks Trio, Longhorn Network, MLB Strike Zone, Outside TV, and National feeds of NESN and NBC RSN's.
This gets you virtually every English Language sports channel except NHL Network, BEIN, PAC 12 Network, and the Tennis Channel

$60/month - DirecTV Now Go Big - ESPN, ESPN2, ESPNNEWS, ESPNU, FS1, FS2, CBSSN, NBCSN, Golf Channel, Olympic Channel, TBS, TNT, TruTv, Big 10 Network, SEC Network, MLB Network, NBA Network, NHL Network, Tennis Channel, Sportsman Channel, TVG, Local ABC/NBC/CBS/FOX affiliate and RSN (if available)
Only an advantage over PS Vue Core w/ Sports Pack if you want NHL Network and Tennis channel instead of NFL Network and NFL Redzone

At $55-60 for an IPTV package its at the point where you want to cross compare it with traditional cable packages. Youtube and Hulu at the 40 dollar price point and all of the major sports networks have the price more realistic.

Comcast at $70 dollar offers its Digital Premier package (260+) with all of the premium movie channels for 12 months. With HD service, regional broadcast fee its more in the neighborhood of $90 all inclusive.

https://cabletvinternet.s9.com/xfinity-t...ages-.html

Where I think Comcast is somewhat lacking is in VOD compared to a Hulu or Netflix I've had all the movie channels but when you do you start to run into some duplication.

When you factor in a internet bundling discount, I would definitely take a traditional cable package into consideration around the $50/month price point
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https://ting.com/blog/ces-2018-consumers...onic-show/

Looks like 5G Home Internet is coming soon. This will give another avenue for competition for internet service besides cable and DSL.
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In the spirit of cord cutting I thought I would share my Comcast bill.

Preferred Double Play 89.99 (2 year discount)
HBO 15.00
Starz 7.80 (4.20 discount)
SubTotal: 112.79

HD Technology Fee 9.95
Internet Equipment Rental 11.00
Broadcast TV fee 8.00
Regional Sports fee 6.75
SubTotal: 35.70

Communications Sales Tax 5.07
PEG 3.33
Rights of Way Use Fee 1.11
FCC Regulatory Fee 0.08
State & Local Sales Tax 0.66
SubTotal: 10.25

Grand Total $158.74

Comcast is tacking $68.73 of fees/taxes onto my bill with a base price of 89.99. Around 43% of my bill is going to fees/taxes.

What if I cut the cord for a month and resigned with a $69.99 TV package which included all of the premium channels?

Preferred Double Play 69.99 (2 year discount)
SubTotal: 69.99

HD Technology Fee 9.95
Broadcast TV fee 8.00
Regional Sports fee 6.75
SubTotal: 24.70

Communications Sales Tax 5.07
PEG 3.33
Rights of Way Use Fee 1.11
FCC Regulatory Fee 0.08
State & Local Sales Tax 0.66
SubTotal: 10.25

New total of $104.94. Fees are now down to 33% of the bill.

The difference in price is $54 dollars. For $54 dollars one can have 50GB of Sprint mobile broadband instead of DSL.

Comparing the price of fully loaded Comcast with fully loaded sling/direct TV now.

Hulu TV $74 (50+ channels HBO, Showtime, Cinemax)
DirectTV Now $88 (120+ channels HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax)
Comcast $104.94 (260+ channels all premiums)
Sling $155.00 (162+ channels HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax)

These IPTV packages are not a great value as you get higher up into the channels.
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(03-02-2018 01:21 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  In the spirit of cord cutting I thought I would share my Comcast bill.

Preferred Double Play 89.99 (2 year discount)
HBO 15.00
Starz 7.80 (4.20 discount)
SubTotal: 112.79

HD Technology Fee 9.95
Internet Equipment Rental 11.00
Broadcast TV fee 8.00
Regional Sports fee 6.75
SubTotal: 35.70

Communications Sales Tax 5.07
PEG 3.33
Rights of Way Use Fee 1.11
FCC Regulatory Fee 0.08
State & Local Sales Tax 0.66
SubTotal: 10.25

Grand Total $158.74

Comcast is tacking $68.73 of fees/taxes onto my bill with a base price of 89.99. Around 43% of my bill is going to fees/taxes.

What if I cut the cord for a month and resigned with a $69.99 TV package which included all of the premium channels?

Preferred Double Play 69.99 (2 year discount)
SubTotal: 69.99

HD Technology Fee 9.95
Broadcast TV fee 8.00
Regional Sports fee 6.75
SubTotal: 24.70

Communications Sales Tax 5.07
PEG 3.33
Rights of Way Use Fee 1.11
FCC Regulatory Fee 0.08
State & Local Sales Tax 0.66
SubTotal: 10.25

New total of $104.94. Fees are now down to 33% of the bill.

The difference in price is $54 dollars. For $54 dollars one can have 50GB of Sprint mobile broadband instead of DSL.

Comparing the price of fully loaded Comcast with fully loaded sling/direct TV now.

Hulu TV $74 (50+ channels HBO, Showtime, Cinemax)
DirectTV Now $88 (120+ channels HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax)
Comcast $104.94 (260+ channels all premiums)
Sling $155.00 (162+ channels HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax)

These IPTV packages are not a great value as you get higher up into the channels.

Your $104.94 includes premiums? They were listed at the top as separate line items but not at the bottom breakdown so it was not clear.

If your wanting everything under the sun, cable co' s are probably your best because they will cut you a deal. However if you want a low monthly rate, IPTV will beat cable big time
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(03-02-2018 01:53 AM)solohawks Wrote:  
(03-02-2018 01:21 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  In the spirit of cord cutting I thought I would share my Comcast bill.

Preferred Double Play 89.99 (2 year discount)
HBO 15.00
Starz 7.80 (4.20 discount)
SubTotal: 112.79

HD Technology Fee 9.95
Internet Equipment Rental 11.00
Broadcast TV fee 8.00
Regional Sports fee 6.75
SubTotal: 35.70

Communications Sales Tax 5.07
PEG 3.33
Rights of Way Use Fee 1.11
FCC Regulatory Fee 0.08
State & Local Sales Tax 0.66
SubTotal: 10.25

Grand Total $158.74

Comcast is tacking $68.73 of fees/taxes onto my bill with a base price of 89.99. Around 43% of my bill is going to fees/taxes.

What if I cut the cord for a month and resigned with a $69.99 TV package which included all of the premium channels?

Preferred Double Play 69.99 (2 year discount)
SubTotal: 69.99

HD Technology Fee 9.95
Broadcast TV fee 8.00
Regional Sports fee 6.75
SubTotal: 24.70

Communications Sales Tax 5.07
PEG 3.33
Rights of Way Use Fee 1.11
FCC Regulatory Fee 0.08
State & Local Sales Tax 0.66
SubTotal: 10.25

New total of $104.94. Fees are now down to 33% of the bill.

The difference in price is $54 dollars. For $54 dollars one can have 50GB of Sprint mobile broadband instead of DSL.

Comparing the price of fully loaded Comcast with fully loaded sling/direct TV now.

Hulu TV $74 (50+ channels HBO, Showtime, Cinemax)
DirectTV Now $88 (120+ channels HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax)
Comcast $104.94 (260+ channels all premiums)
Sling $155.00 (162+ channels HBO, Showtime, Starz, Cinemax)

These IPTV packages are not a great value as you get higher up into the channels.

Your $104.94 includes premiums? They were listed at the top as separate line items but not at the bottom breakdown so it was not clear.

If your wanting everything under the sun, cable co' s are probably your best because they will cut you a deal. However if you want a low monthly rate, IPTV will beat cable big time

With the $104.94 I am factoring in premium channels.

Here is what is in my premium channel guide.

Cinemax, Cinemax (W)
SStarMax, ActionMax, MoreMax, MovieMax, OuterMax,, ThrillerMax
HBO, HBO (W), HBO 2, HBO Comedy, HBO Family, HBO Latino, HBO Signature, HBO Zone
The Movie Channel, The Movie Channel Xtra
Playboy
Showtime, Showtime Beyond, Showtime Extreme, Showtime Showcase, Showtime Too
Starz, Starz Cinema, Starz Comedy, Starz Edge, Starz InBlack, Starz Kids & Family

30 premium channels. Comcast VOD includes what is currently running on these 30 channels plus non-premium movie channels like IFC, Sundance, AMC.

There is also an ability to purchase content outside of your On Demand individually if you would like but if you subscribe to a package with the channels where they are shown they are free.
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Speaking of the cost of DSL Comcast has rolled out prepaid internet...

Quote:Comcast has quietly doubled the max downstream speed of its prepaid internet product, while keeping the upstream speed unchanged.

The updated product now delivers downstream speeds up to 20 Mbps, up from 10 Mbps, and continues to deliver up to 1 Mbps in the upstream direction. Those speeds are still below the FCC's broadband definition of 25 Mbps down by 3 Mbps up.

http://www.multichannel.com/news/distrib...uct/416390

Comcast prepaid at $40 is cheaper than any of the "unlimited" mobile broadband products that are now capping out 4G data at 50GB. Sprint is $50 dollars and T-Mobile is $70 for their offering.

Boost Mobile which is Sprints budget provider has a promotion where you can get Comcast prepaid for $40 dollars with a $50 dollar unlimited boost subscription.

Comcast prepaid DSL $40
Boost Mobile unlimited plan $50

Comcast prepaid is true prepaid in that you pay by refill. If you don't think you need it for month you don't have have to refill it.

More interesting than prepaid DSL is Comcast Xfinity Mobile. Comcast is using Verizon's network and its phones are programmed to flip over to wifi when a wifi signal available. It does require a post-paid internet subscription to Comcast but a cell plan at starting at $12 for 1GB over a verizon network is a nice price.

The unlimited Xfinity Mobile is $45 dollars. It is possible to get post-paid comcast internet and then cancel it to use the unlimited Xfinity. That will cost you another $10 dollars but at $55 you have unlimited text, data and mobile hotspotting.

Also unlike a lot of economy plans Xfinity Mobile allows financing of premium phones. It is $28.75 for an S8+ edge so conceivably one could have cell service at $40 dollars with a new S8+. With a major carrier your looking at $110.

Its possible to have both a premium movie package and unlimited data with an S8+ for under $200.

Comcast (260 channels all premium) $105
Xfinity Mobile w/ S8+ unlimited data/hotspot $85
Total $190

This top shelf package that would normally be $325 to $350. If you tried to mix in the prepaid Comcast they offer basic TV at $20 dollars. Possible to get away with only using 3GB on the Xfinity plan and no wifi to save money

Comcast Basic Internet TV $20
Comcast IPTV HBO $15
Comcast IPTV Showtime $10
Comcast IPTV Starz $10
Comcast Prepaid Internet $45
Xfinity Mobile w/ S8+ 3GB data $65
Total $165

It may be more economical to go in with an unlimited cell phone of data and use it for occasional home use than to do it the other way carrying home internet service IMO.
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Taking a look at cord cutting from a power perspective about 13% of your electric bill is tied to consumer electronics. Another side benefit of cutting the cord/dsl and trying to do everything out of a smartphone is a much lower power footprint.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/...epmt_5_6_a

That is the average cost by state. Below I have consumer electronics at 10.5 kw/H listed.

Set Top Box => 93.81 per year in electric
Desktop PC 24hr usage => 87.61 per year in electric
90W 55" TV 24hr usage => 82.79 per year in electric
60W Laptop Computer normal 24hr usage => 55.19 per year in electric
Wifi Router 24 hour usage => 5.52 per year in electric
5W 24 hour Cell Phone Charging => 4.38 per year in electric
Printer 30 minutes a day usage => 0.77 per year in electric

http://energyusecalculator.com/

What this is showing is that its a lot more power efficient to run your home entertainment out of a cellphone and go to occasional use for TV and Laptop. Its possible to save up to 25 dollars a month in electricity by doing it that way.

Article on smartphone energy consumption. iphone is the lowest but all cellphones are super low relative to PCs.

https://lifehacker.com/5948075/how-much-...our-budget

Gaming doubles the energy consumption of any desktop or laptop. An electricity cost that can be avoided by gaming on the cell phone which is like a 1.50 per year in electric if you only charge it overnight when you are sleeping.

https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/artic...-of-energy
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
Throwing a couple of TV platform scenarios + potential drawbacks.

Scenario 1: (Total $165)

Comcast Premium Package $105
Metro PCS unlimited 20GB hotspot $60

-This will give you all the movie channels over X1 with its interface and voice support remote. To get a PCS deal you'll have to accept an economy phone however at 20GB its plenty as a replacement for DSL to serve the laptops. Expect the price on the Comcast though to go up by $20 dollars after the first year and another $20 the second year.

Scenario 2: (Total $152)

Comcast Prepaid 20mbs DSL $50
Hulu TV add free $44
Hulu w/Showtime add-on $8
Metro PCS unlimited $50
-One Time Extra: Amazon Fire TV $69 (voice remote)

-Everything here is prepaid but will require a streaming device investment unless you've got a TV that by itself can support the Hulu app. You probably don't need to spend the $15 dollars for the HBO add-on as long as you know when each TV season is coming out of your favorite shows and you set a reminder somewhere. Showtime is discounted through Hulu so a good deal. Hulu TV commercial free is a little more money than the standard version of the service but does have a solid sports package. Not a huge cut in price from cable but you don't have to worry about it going up in price.

Scenario 3: (Total $109)

Sprint unlimited streaming 10GB hotspot w/Hulu add free $67
Showtime stand alone service $11
Samsung Galaxy 8 monthly payment $31.25
-One Time Extra: Samsung Dex Pad $99 (signal converter)

Its possible to get away with DSL entirely by using a Samsung Dex. A Dex will require a phone with Android Oreo software or above (think S8 or S9) and this is where the S8 comes into play. Having service with sprint they have a promotion for the ad free Hulu but there is no option to expand the service into Hulu live TV or the add-on premium channels should you care do to do so for football season.

Scenario 4: (Total $100)

Comcast Xfinity Mobile unlimited service/hotspot $45
Xfinity Mobile wireless stand alone charge $10
Hulu add free w/Showtime add-on $20
Samsung Galaxy 8 monthly payment $25
-One Time Extra: Samsung Dex Pad $99 (signal converter)
-Bonus: $250 prepaid card for purchasing a Samsung phone

This one requires being a current Comcast DSL customer to get the service but once you have it you can keep it with a $10 charge for a total of $55 unlimited. Comcast is selling the S8 for $600 a pretty average price BUT they are giving you a prepaid card after 4 months of service for $250. If you buy something for $250, return it as cash you could essentially buy the S8 down by that amount. Its like picking up the S8 for $350.

Aside from Cricket Wireless where they limit phone speed to 8mbps there is nowhere else selling it the S8 for $350 at the moment. Straight Talk has the S8 and one month of service for $500. Metro PCS/Boost Mobile about $530. Overstock has the S8 for $609 new. $350 is as good as it gets and can buy you into the Samsung line so by the time the S10 is out it you could get another $350 out of it in a trade in.
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
MWC: NBA TV and MLB just added to Youtube TV.
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RE: An Analysis of TV OTT Platforms
(03-09-2018 03:38 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  MWC: NBA TV and MLB just added to Youtube TV.

Thanks! Updated!
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https://espnmediazone.com/us/press-relea...amex_espn/

For those with an American Express card, you can get a 30 day free trial of ESPN+ for the first week of the service staring at launch tomorrow.

I would recommend taking advantage of it and cancel at the end of the 30 days. Then you will likely be in the loop for "please do not go" or "please come back" emails that offer you an additional free subscriptions
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Almost makes me want to rush out and get an AmEx card. Almost.
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