I guess now we'll have to define "consequences" ...



Let me ask you - do you believe in mind control? Because what you're essentially trying to present is that spoken language can have the same effect as mind control.

(06-16-2017 09:36 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 09:19 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  What are examples of "rabid rhetoric" from Democratic Party leaders, NOT media people?

do you really need a f*cking list?

Of course she does, simply so she can refute it.

(06-16-2017 09:42 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  I appreciate the article 200 and it was a good read. Definitely some truth in there, however, that mentality loses. Let's make nice. The obstruction of governance. Look at where the Repubs are now? Obstruction works. It does. I said to myself many times how in the world does DJT get elected. How does the pu55y grabber get in the big chair? It's not out of the realm of impossibility that the Rooskies put him there. That is in the back of my mind, but let's say it was won fair and square. The pragmatic part of me looks at how the GOP behaved during the Obamacare years and the hate and vitriol they worked up. It works! I see this all as "us" copying your playbook. It works. Plain and simple.

Ignore the fact that it's far more likely, almost a certainty, that he was elected because half the country is sick and tired of the type of people your party attracts and especially its leaders. In 4 more years you guys will have another opportunity to beat a flawed candidate - should he choose to run again - and will, in all likelihood, run one even more flawed, again.

And remind me of all the times a conservative actor held up Obama's bloodied head or produced a play depicting him as Caesar being assassinated. Please link all the vile and disgusting rhetoric urging violence employed by the right during the Lord Zero years.

Ted Nugent said some very vile things. If we're being honest you can see neither side holds a monopoly on vile and bombastic. Problem is that's what each sides base wants. Look in here. How many truly rational people do we have in here? How many peace makers and how many bomb throwers? Bomb throwers are winning my man.

Ted Nugent isn't an authority of anything. He's an entertainer. He's going to say whatever it is that he thinks will make him the most money.

Neither are the entertainers you see on MSNBC, CNN, or the Fox News cable TV channels. It's all just stuff to rile you up and make you pay attention -- that makes them money.

(06-16-2017 11:50 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  I guess now we'll have to define "consequences" ...



Let me ask you - do you believe in mind control? Because what you're essentially trying to present is that spoken language can have the same effect as mind control.

To a degree, isn't that the foundation of the advertising industry?

Why would companies spend millions of dollars if they weren't able to influence people to a degree?

(06-16-2017 01:57 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Ted Nugent isn't an authority of anything

except guitar rock!

(06-16-2017 01:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ted Nugent said some very vile things. If we're being honest you can see neither side holds a monopoly on vile and bombastic. Problem is that's what each sides base wants. Look in here. How many truly rational people do we have in here? How many peace makers and how many bomb throwers? Bomb throwers are winning my man.

1 Ted Nugent and I'll raise you 50 Hollywood types.

(06-16-2017 01:44 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  Ted Nugent said some very vile things. If we're being honest you can see neither side holds a monopoly on vile and bombastic. Problem is that's what each sides base wants. Look in here. How many truly rational people do we have in here? How many peace makers and how many bomb throwers? Bomb throwers are winning my man.

So...calling DJT a pu55y grabber isn't bomb throwing? WJC is the Jizzer in Chief I suppose based on you example.

(06-16-2017 03:02 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  To a degree, isn't that the foundation of the advertising industry?

Why would companies spend millions of dollars if they weren't able to influence people to a degree?

The decision to buy the thing is still wholly at the discretion of the person making that choice. Likewise, the choice to murder someone is entirely at the discretion of the person making that choice.

(06-16-2017 03:12 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  except guitar rock!

Ha!

(06-16-2017 03:12 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 01:57 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  Ted Nugent isn't an authority of anything

except guitar rock!

And hunting.

And guns.

And pissing off leftists.

(06-16-2017 05:01 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(06-16-2017 03:02 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  To a degree, isn't that the foundation of the advertising industry?

Why would companies spend millions of dollars if they weren't able to influence people to a degree?

The decision to buy the thing is still wholly at the discretion of the person making that choice. Likewise, the choice to murder someone is entirely at the discretion of the person making that choice.

You really need to learn what influence means.

I do know what it means. It seems that you think it means something other than what it actually means ...

Maybe you can give a hypothetical example that demonstrates what you think it means?

It's real sad, because I am looking at the adherents of a political philosophy that for all intents and purposes appear to be brainwashed. Beat Republicans seems to excuse any type of behavior. This is no where near our behavior when Obama was in office. Not even close. Honestly, Ted Nugent?