1. For the past year and a half 4 different beat writers and now Finebaum have aired the suggestion of either Oklahoma and Oklahoma State to the SEC, or just Oklahoma to the SEC.

2. For over a year the buzz out of Norman has all been about Boren's preference for the Big 10.

3. Is there a better way to convince the SEC to consider Oklahoma than pushing the B1G issue?

4. On the first days interview with Sankey, the commissioner chided Paul Finebaum about bring up Oklahoma and realignment. That's new.

5. This annual meeting had virtually no news coming out of it other than the vote to change graduate eligibility rule. That took all of 5 minutes and hardly accounts for 3 days worth of meetings.

6. The old Auburn to the SEC East and Missouri to the SEC West issue was recycled. Could it be in preparation for a real move involving real realignment due to additions? Or was it just a waste of time aired by an A.D. that already knew it wasn't on the agenda and just wanted to make a fool of himself by raising it?

7. Boren who has lambasted the Big 12 at previous meetings leaves their meeting with honey dripping off of his chin every time he opened his mouth to speak. That's new too.

8. Now Big Game Bob packs it in.

Add it all up and it may be nothing. But place it in the framework of all of the buzz that's about 4 years premature and it holds a fascination for me.

Could it be that Bob didn't want to have to do all of the ground work necessary for a conference switch where coaches have to learn new recruiting areas, build their presence, and press a lot of flesh?

Is Boren all peaches and cream because his issue over OU has been resolved?

Did Jay Jacobs raise the issue of realigning divisions to get everyone aware that it may happen, but just for reasons other than those he stated?

Did the SEC annual meetings hold discussions over expansion while publicly denying that realignment of divisions would be discussed? The latter was a truthful statement as they weren't discussed. But nobody asked them if they were considering future members.

It was rumored that OU and KU representatives were at the Big 10's annual meeting. I wonder if they were at ours as well?

Technically to meet with any other conference for the purpose of discussing a potential move is a violation of their GOR. So are the main protagonists quite prepared to move now or within a couple of years?

I'm not pretending to have any answers but the retirement of Stoops is certainly going to place OU in a less advantageous position entering this year's beauty contest for the CFP, and along with them the Big 12.

And finally there was a Chicago caller claiming to be an Irish fan who suggested Stoops was pulling an Urban and leaving now for a year's rest before taking the N.D. job. That would be just in time for the premier of the ACCN.

It just feels like things are about to pop. We'll see. Thoughts?

I don't think Stoops ends up at Notre Dame or anywhere else. I think he's done.

You may be right about everything else, though.

Who wouldn't want to be a fly on the wall?

It was rumored that OU and KU representatives were at the Big 10's annual meeting. I wonder if they were at ours as well?

Where did this come from?

All that speculation and no mention of the Finebaum show completely converting over to cover the Oklahoma Sooners' retirement of Stoops with huge guests calling in?

(06-08-2017 11:39 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  All that speculation and no mention of the Finebaum show completely converting over to cover the Oklahoma Sooners' retirement of Stoops with huge guests calling in?

It's not unusual for Paul to jump to the news at hand. His program rolls with the calls until something breaks.

I'm really surprised that Stoops is leaving now. A good team in place means a 9-10 win season (especially with the bowl game) is very likely and that would get him past the 200 win mark. This is still fishy to me, but, if the school is in talks with another conference and Stoops disagreed with the choice, then who knows...

(06-09-2017 11:22 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  I'm really surprised that Stoops is leaving now. A good team in place means a 9-10 win season (especially with the bowl game) is very likely and that would get him past the 200 win mark. This is still fishy to me, but, if the school is in talks with another conference and Stoops disagreed with the choice, then who knows...

The SEC would likely be the most reasonable to Stoops because it would include the State of Texas which is a where Oklahoma recruits a lot of players. However, the schedule would be brutal. The B1G and PAC would be "easier" routes to the CFP but would include a lot more travel and brand new recruiting grounds unless they got the University of Texas in the mix. Maybe the school wants to go to the B1G or PAC, and not the SEC, and Texas isn't willing to go either?

(06-08-2017 11:28 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  It was rumored that OU and KU representatives were at the Big 10's annual meeting. I wonder if they were at ours as well?

Where did this come from?

Anyone?

I have no doubt that if you went back to late 2015 or early 2016 you could have penciled Oklahoma and Kansas in for the B1G, but things change.What could ESPN do for either?
Did anyone notice that Kansas played on multiple "Big Monday" basketball games this year. They were highly ranked, yes,but the exposure to a national audience was it's own reward. Nobody but ESPN could give Kansas that kind of love.
Maybe Oklahoma State isn't the hook that everyone seems to think it is, maybe that designation belongs to Kansas.
If we were to move to "pods" then a pod consisting of Kansas, Missouri, Arkansas and Oklahoma isn't too shabby.
Does the SEC need two more football schools? Think about inventory for the network.

(06-09-2017 01:26 PM)BePcr07 Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 11:22 AM)Soobahk40050 Wrote:  I'm really surprised that Stoops is leaving now. A good team in place means a 9-10 win season (especially with the bowl game) is very likely and that would get him past the 200 win mark. This is still fishy to me, but, if the school is in talks with another conference and Stoops disagreed with the choice, then who knows...

The SEC would likely be the most reasonable to Stoops because it would include the State of Texas which is a where Oklahoma recruits a lot of players. However, the schedule would be brutal. The B1G and PAC would be "easier" routes to the CFP but would include a lot more travel and brand new recruiting grounds unless they got the University of Texas in the mix. Maybe the school wants to go to the B1G or PAC, and not the SEC, and Texas isn't willing to go either?

Taking the easy way to the CFB championship is no way to show you are a champion.

What if this played out: Sumlin is fired and stoops is hired after this season?

(06-11-2017 11:08 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  What if this played out: Sumlin is fired and stoops is hired after this season?

Stoops could land almost any job he wants. He could have told his agent to get the would out privately to the agencies that the schools use to look for and hire HC and AD's. I still think he's taking some major time off if not fully retired.

Also, why come back? What does he have to prove? He's already a HOF coach. Multiple conference titles, BCS bowls and a national title. What is the motivation to come back? To battle Saban yearly at Texas A&M? I could understand that argument, but usually a HOF coach like that stays where they are to rule the nest as opposed to going to another conference to try and take over another established pecking order.

Did LSU land Jimbo after two summers of trying? Nope. LSU had the money, the recruiting grounds and the history and prestige to pull off that move, but it didn't happen. Jimbo is set in FSU with a clear path to the NC Playoffs. Only has Clemson to beat. In state rivals Florida can't beat them on the field thus wins more recruiting battles.

(06-11-2017 12:40 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 11:08 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  What if this played out: Sumlin is fired and stoops is hired after this season?

Stoops could land almost any job he wants. He could have told his agent to get the would out privately to the agencies that the schools use to look for and hire HC and AD's. I still think he's taking some major time off if not fully retired.

Also, why come back? What does he have to prove? He's already a HOF coach. Multiple conference titles, BCS bowls and a national title. What is the motivation to come back? To battle Saban yearly at Texas A&M? I could understand that argument, but usually a HOF coach like that stays where they are to rule the nest as opposed to going to another conference to try and take over another established pecking order.

Did LSU land Jimbo after two summers of trying? Nope. LSU had the money, the recruiting grounds and the history and prestige to pull off that move, but it didn't happen. Jimbo is set in FSU with a clear path to the NC Playoffs. Only has Clemson to beat. In state rivals Florida can't beat them on the field thus wins more recruiting battles.

Only has Clemson to beat? I think 63-20 begs to differ. ;-P

(06-11-2017 03:16 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 12:40 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 11:08 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  What if this played out: Sumlin is fired and stoops is hired after this season?

Stoops could land almost any job he wants. He could have told his agent to get the would out privately to the agencies that the schools use to look for and hire HC and AD's. I still think he's taking some major time off if not fully retired.

Also, why come back? What does he have to prove? He's already a HOF coach. Multiple conference titles, BCS bowls and a national title. What is the motivation to come back? To battle Saban yearly at Texas A&M? I could understand that argument, but usually a HOF coach like that stays where they are to rule the nest as opposed to going to another conference to try and take over another established pecking order.

Did LSU land Jimbo after two summers of trying? Nope. LSU had the money, the recruiting grounds and the history and prestige to pull off that move, but it didn't happen. Jimbo is set in FSU with a clear path to the NC Playoffs. Only has Clemson to beat. In state rivals Florida can't beat them on the field thus wins more recruiting battles.

Only has Clemson to beat? I think 63-20 begs to differ. ;-P

You're assuming another Byotch doesn't fall off his bike any time soon

(06-11-2017 07:09 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 03:16 PM)Lenvillecards Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 12:40 PM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(06-11-2017 11:08 AM)Ewglenn Wrote:  What if this played out: Sumlin is fired and stoops is hired after this season?

Stoops could land almost any job he wants. He could have told his agent to get the would out privately to the agencies that the schools use to look for and hire HC and AD's. I still think he's taking some major time off if not fully retired.

Also, why come back? What does he have to prove? He's already a HOF coach. Multiple conference titles, BCS bowls and a national title. What is the motivation to come back? To battle Saban yearly at Texas A&M? I could understand that argument, but usually a HOF coach like that stays where they are to rule the nest as opposed to going to another conference to try and take over another established pecking order.

Did LSU land Jimbo after two summers of trying? Nope. LSU had the money, the recruiting grounds and the history and prestige to pull off that move, but it didn't happen. Jimbo is set in FSU with a clear path to the NC Playoffs. Only has Clemson to beat. In state rivals Florida can't beat them on the field thus wins more recruiting battles.

Only has Clemson to beat? I think 63-20 begs to differ. ;-P

You're assuming another Byotch doesn't fall off his bike any time soon

Only 2 bad coaching hires since 1985 & in a P5 conference now, I like our chances with the next coach. ;-D

Stoops always seemed to have a bone to pick with the SEC.

https://www.seccountry.com/sec/sec-footb...conference

May be in good conscience, he couldn't become an SEC coach through realignment.

SMOKE!