(06-09-2017 10:32 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Hambone,

Do you at least remember when Trump said something to the affect of wanting or hoping that the Russians did perform hacks?

He was saying if the Russians hacked Clintons email server, he wanted them to give us copies of Clintons emails. Which is not an incorrect thing to do, considering the emails belong to the american people. And she criminally did not do so.

(06-09-2017 10:32 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Hambone,

Do you at least remember when Trump said something to the affect of wanting or hoping that the Russians did perform hacks?

If so, then you can't pretend that people are making up the idea of collusion out of thin air.

Not saying there is any evidence of collusion, but you can't pretend that idea comes out of left field.

Bless your heart, you didn't recognize a jab a Hillary over her 30,000 missing emails and the DNC's stupidity of falling for a phishing hack? Poor child.

(06-09-2017 10:37 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 10:32 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  Hambone,

Do you at least remember when Trump said something to the affect of wanting or hoping that the Russians did perform hacks?

He was saying if the Russians hacked Clintons email server, he wanted them to give us copies of Clintons emails. Which is not an incorrect thing to do, considering the emails belong to the american people. And she criminally did not do so.

Yep.

If you inserted Hillary for Trump and these exact same scenarios happened Clinton would be impeached and the loudest voices in this room would be screaming for it. If the House was under D control we would have impeachment. It's a political process and right now R's control those levers and Teump has eliminated all of the investigative threats to him. He's won.

(06-09-2017 06:54 AM)Jugnaut Wrote:  We also learned that as Dershowitz stated that the president is the ultimate/final say on investigations by the FBI/DOJ as chief executive and has full prosecutorial discretion, meaning it is impossible for Trump to obstruct an investigation if its in his full authority to stop it. Comey confirmed this view.

Basic civics. People are just ignorant. Comey is the poster boy for the reason impeachment works the way it does.

I understand that. But he created the conceptual linkage between himself and Russian hacking.

If he had never said that ...


Guys, I'm not trying to justify any claims of collusion or suggest evidence of collusion. I'm merely pointing a simple thing out.

I wish you guys would give me the benefit of the doubt, sometimes, and not assume my intentions are always to bash what you believe in.

(06-09-2017 10:41 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  I understand that. But he created the conceptual linkage between himself and Russian hacking.

If he had never said that ...

If thats true then you must concede that the democrats have created conceptual linkage with irrational thought and behavior to the point of sedition.

SK, all I was pointing out is that he did say that. So I don't agree that collusion was pulled out of a hat of "random ways to attack Trump".

Again, not justifying collusion as a valid idea and not saying there is any evidence of collusion.

(06-09-2017 10:41 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  I understand that. But he created the conceptual linkage between himself and Russian hacking.

If he had never said that ...


Guys, I'm not trying to justify any claims of collusion or justify claims of collusion. I'm merely pointing a simple thing out.

I wish you guys would give me the benefit of the doubt, sometimes, and not assume my intentions are always to bash what you believe in.

by your own logic, we all have a "conceptual linkage" because we have also made comments about Russia...

(06-09-2017 10:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If you inserted Hillary for Trump and these exact same scenarios happened Clinton would be impeached and the loudest voices in this room would be screaming for it.

Supposition is the last refuge of the defeated.

#schadenfreude

UTSA, what is your point?

(06-09-2017 10:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If you inserted Hillary for Trump and these exact same scenarios happened Clinton would be impeached and the loudest voices in this room would be screaming for it. If the House was under D control we would have impeachment. It's a political process and right now R's control those levers and Teump has eliminated all of the investigative threats to him. He's won.

No, Comey eliminated all of the investigative threats to Trump.

#BuckleDown

Just to clear things up:

James Comey colluded with Loretta Lynch and media to rig the election (they failed), take out a sitting President or destroy him politically, and mislead the public. All because he believed a fake dossier generated by a UK citizen and paid for by the Clintons?

SAD

(06-09-2017 10:48 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  UTSA, what is your point?

you just made it. Thank you.

(06-09-2017 10:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Just to clear things up:

James Comey colluded with Loretta Lynch and media to rig the election (they failed), take out a sitting President or destroy him politically, and mislead the public. All because he believed a fake dossier generated by a UK citizen and paid for by the Clintons?

SAD

Despite all of their illegal shenanigans, deep state died yesterday when they were run over by the Trump Train.

(06-09-2017 10:41 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  I understand that. But he created the conceptual linkage between himself and Russian hacking.

If he had never said that ...


Guys, I'm not trying to justify any claims of collusion or suggest evidence of collusion. I'm merely pointing a simple thing out.

I wish you guys would give me the benefit of the doubt, sometimes, and not assume my intentions are always to bash what you believe in.

So did Hillary ever create any "conceptual linkage" between herself and Russia? How about between herself and the Clinton Foundation? What about between herself and AG Lynch when her husband met with her on that tarmac?

(06-09-2017 10:55 AM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-09-2017 10:51 AM)EverRespect Wrote:  Just to clear things up:

James Comey colluded with Loretta Lynch and media to rig the election (they failed), take out a sitting President or destroy him politically, and mislead the public. All because he believed a fake dossier generated by a UK citizen and paid for by the Clintons?

SAD

Despite all of their illegal shenanigans, deep state died yesterday when they were run over by the Trump Train.

I honestly hope Obama or Bill Clinton himself was not involved and it was all Hillary. I don't like them, but I'd rather not have a president be attached to this historical eyesore.

(06-09-2017 10:41 AM)Machiavelli Wrote:  If you inserted Hillary for Trump and these exact same scenarios happened Clinton would be impeached and the loudest voices in this room would be screaming for it. If the House was under D control we would have impeachment. It's a political process and right now R's control those levers and Teump has eliminated all of the investigative threats to him. He's won.

Bless your heart!

(06-09-2017 10:45 AM)MplsBison Wrote:  SK, all I was pointing out is that he did say that. So I don't agree that collusion was pulled out of a hat of "random ways to attack Trump".

Again, not justifying collusion as a valid idea and not saying there is any evidence of collusion.

Conceptual linkage is as ridiculous as the democrat pundits getting mad about what Trump "didn't" say or how Trump "didnt" disavow every kook that claims affiliation with him. It is a disengenious rhetorical trick for the weak minded

http://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2017...a_boy.html
Well even our resident conspiracy theorist isn't happy with Comey.

Aside from revealing that President Trump is guilty of exactly nothing but winning an election, James Comey sure did reveal a lot about himself.  His feelings are easily hurt, he gets scared in Trump's presence, he gets nauseated, is weak, gets confused and stunned.  He is sorry his workforce had to hear what Trump said about the FBI, that it is in disarray.  He sounded like a college snowflake on almost any American college campus in need of a safe space.
After a lifetime as a lawyer, U.S. attorney for the Southern District, U.S. deputy district attorney, and corporate lawyer, this is a man who never should have been appointed as director of the FBI.  He does not have the temperament for the job.  We learned yesterday that he unlawfully leaked his own memo, property of the FBI, to the press to "spur a special prosecutor" and cover his own backside.  Why not turn it over to acting director McCabe or the DOJ?  Because he's malicious.  He likely leaked a whole lot more to the press that is so in love with anonymous sources.  The guy was positively Machiavellian in his attempt to smear Trump and protect himself.  But Machiavelli would not be proud; Comey was too clever by half.  He essentially admitted that Trump had done nothing wrong beyond making Comey uncomfortable, being a compassionate man regarding Michael Flynn, and not using the approved vernacular or prescribed handshake of the D.C. establishment.


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