South Alabama did not deserve to be a two seed anywhere.

I agree with Chief. If they didn't win the tournament, they wouldn't be in the field. That's because of all the stolen bids.

The biggest snub, to me, was Old Dominion.

Missouri State received an at-large, just FYI.

USA didn't deserve a 2 seed in the conference so no way they deserve one in the NCAAs. My only hope is that we get a real conference tournament next year. For now congrats USA, make some noise and prove it on the diamond you deserved a higher seed.

(05-29-2017 03:32 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  South Alabama did not deserve to be a two seed anywhere.

I agree with Chief. If they didn't win the tournament, they wouldn't be in the field. That's because of all the stolen bids.

The biggest snub, to me, was Old Dominion.

Yeah, Old Dominion was the biggest snub. Ironically Rice winning the CUSA tournament is probably what did them in.

(05-29-2017 02:45 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:40 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 01:34 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:50 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:25 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  I think we were a 3 seed because Hattiesburg is only 80 miles away from Mobile. MSU got the 2 seed because their RPI was 2 spots better and they beat us 2 out of 3 games -- albeit the first two games were against a flu ridden Jag team. USA has the second best RPI among 3 seeds (NC State was 29 and USA was 30) and USA has a better RPI than 4 of the #2 seeds. It's location based since there isn't a real difference in being a 2 or 3 seed.

I disagree that there is no difference in being a 2 and a 3 seed ... There is quite a difference in the two based on the quality of opponent you are playing. Wouldn't you rather be a two playing teams in the 32-47 range instead of a three playing teams in the 17-32?

I'm giving a practical explanation for why USA is a 3 seed and you're arguing semantics about a hypothetical 2-3 seed. The 2 seed plays the 3 seed in the opening game regardless. We are in Hattiesburg because of location. If MSU was the 3 seed and USA was the 2 seed we would still be playing MSU.

In your hypothetical situation, of course you'd want to be the RPI 17-32 team and not the 32-48 team.

My hypothetical is the norm more than your situation ... I would rather be a two than a three 90 percent of the time because they are not the same and the matchups are not the same.

If South Alabama were a two seed, they would not be playing someone as quality as Mississippi State in the opening round; that's not hard to understand.

Maybe it is... MSU as a 2 seed has to play someone "as quality as" South Alabama in the opening round (RPI 28 vs 30).

Your theory would hold water if the NCAA was limited in the number of driving distance regionals from Mobile, but if they really wanted you guys to be a 2, they could have sent you to Baton Rouge or Tallahassee

The fact is, USA had a decent RPI, but you got there with basically zero good wins, and you're also going to be forever viewed the winners of a fluky tournament, where rain and single elimination meant you didn't have to face a single one of the top 4 teams in the conference to win the title..

I wanted to give a shout out to South Alabama and congratulate their team on making the tournament! Here's to the Jaguars kicking ass on the way to Omaha!

Lol..a real conf. tourney. Far as I know everyone had the same shot. Don't cry if your team didn't get it done. Lol...Yeah blame the tournament.

Speaking of the tournament:

Next year we'll welcome you to M. L. "Tigue" Moore Field at Russo Park. With construction completed and the tailgate areas back in force, it should be one helluva good time for everyone who attends.

If you haven't been to Lafayette for baseball, it's a whole new experience.

Oh, and we have turf. No worries if it rains. We'll get the games in.

(05-29-2017 03:53 PM)chiefsfan Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:45 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 02:40 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 01:34 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:50 PM)warhawk09 Wrote:  I disagree that there is no difference in being a 2 and a 3 seed ... There is quite a difference in the two based on the quality of opponent you are playing. Wouldn't you rather be a two playing teams in the 32-47 range instead of a three playing teams in the 17-32?

I'm giving a practical explanation for why USA is a 3 seed and you're arguing semantics about a hypothetical 2-3 seed. The 2 seed plays the 3 seed in the opening game regardless. We are in Hattiesburg because of location. If MSU was the 3 seed and USA was the 2 seed we would still be playing MSU.

In your hypothetical situation, of course you'd want to be the RPI 17-32 team and not the 32-48 team.

My hypothetical is the norm more than your situation ... I would rather be a two than a three 90 percent of the time because they are not the same and the matchups are not the same.

If South Alabama were a two seed, they would not be playing someone as quality as Mississippi State in the opening round; that's not hard to understand.

Maybe it is... MSU as a 2 seed has to play someone "as quality as" South Alabama in the opening round (RPI 28 vs 30).

Your theory would hold water if the NCAA was limited in the number of driving distance regionals from Mobile, but if they really wanted you guys to be a 2, they could have sent you to Baton Rouge or Tallahassee

The fact is, USA had a decent RPI, but you got there with basically zero good wins, and you're also going to be forever viewed the winners of a fluky tournament, where rain and single elimination meant you didn't have to face a single one of the top 4 teams in the conference to win the title..

And done what with SELA and UCF? I believe all 3 (including USA) have better resumes that some of the other 2 seeds.

Coastal had the same chance as everyone else. No one wanted single elimination but it was what it was

Did I miss a Jag fan say we deserved to be a 2 seed?

(05-29-2017 12:25 PM)SkullyMaroo Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:28 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  Tells me 2 things:

1. South would not have gotten in without winning Sunday. A Regional 3 seed against a very good 2 seed and that's with 39 wins and an automatic bid.

2. While it's not a National Seed regional, this won't be easy. Miss State, South Alabama, and Southern Miss are all strong offensive teams built without amazing starting pitching. Illinois Chicago meanwhile is a scary 4 seed, with one of the best pitching staffs in the country.

I think we were a 3 seed because Hattiesburg is only 80 miles away from Mobile. MSU got the 2 seed because their RPI was 2 spots better and they beat us 2 out of 3 games -- albeit the first two games were against a flu ridden Jag team. USA has the second best RPI among 3 seeds (NC State was 29 and USA was 30) and USA has a better RPI than 4 of the #2 seeds. It's location based since there isn't a real difference in being a 2 or 3 seed.

One thing you can bet your asses on. Friday night at 6pm you will have a home field advantage. There will be lots of gold cheering against the leghumpers.

(05-29-2017 05:11 PM)BirdofParadise Wrote:  Speaking of the tournament:

Next year we'll welcome you to M. L. "Tigue" Moore Field at Russo Park. With construction completed and the tailgate areas back in force, it should be one helluva good time for everyone who attends.

If you haven't been to Lafayette for baseball, it's a whole new experience.

Oh, and we have turf. No worries if it rains. We'll get the games in.

8 or 10 teams after this years mess?

(05-29-2017 06:48 PM)Thegoldstandard Wrote:  One thing you can bet your asses on. Friday night at 6pm you will have a home field advantage. There will be lots of gold cheering against the leghumpers.

I was reading a bit of their views on USM hosting the regional and it was pretty pathetic. They have a wild sense of entitlement. I wouldn't mind them making a quick exit at the hands of our teams.

(05-29-2017 05:33 PM)GaSoEagle Wrote:  Coastal had the same chance as everyone else. No one wanted single elimination but it was what it was

Agreed. Did I miss a Coastal fan complaining on this thread?

I guess the 'complaining' would be the inference by a previous poster in this thread that we didn't somehow have a real conference tournament. We certainly didn't have a double elimination tournament, which I hate because after taking off work a few days I wanted the full baseball buffet.

Guess we'll just have to give USA an asterisk for 2017.

(Just kidding).

(05-29-2017 08:41 PM)Eagle22 Wrote:  I guess the 'complaining' would be the inference by a previous poster in this thread that we didn't somehow have a real conference tournament. We certainly didn't have a double elimination tournament, which I hate because after taking off work a few days I wanted the full baseball buffet.

Guess we'll just have to give USA an asterisk for 2017.

(Just kidding).

But that wasn't a Coastal fan and I'm sure was just trying to stir the pot.

At the end me of the day every team had the same opportunity and Coastal just didn't play well. Tx State outplayed us - the format wouldn't change that.

Edit: I did miss the post where a Coastal fan posted that. Sorry about that.

(05-29-2017 12:18 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:49 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  That's it. One big league. Radford replaces Coastal Carolina as Big South Champions, assuring us all the apocalypse is nigh.

Glad the NCAA left South Carolina out. They didn't deserve to make the field, and I was tired of the talking heads were trying to put them in. Ole Miss and Miami left out as well. That's the one redeeming quality of the baseball selection committee, they are not afraid of giving at large bids to non power conference schools.

I do think there are too many Big Ten teams in the tournament. I'm going to go ahead an guess that of the 5 that make the make the tournament at most 1 will win the regionals and they'll all be gone for the CWS.

BTW, the awesome and amazing CUSA only got two in, and that was because Rice stole a bid.

definitely a downer..southland got in two

Happens sometimes. There was a lot of parity in the Belt. We were a better conference than the Southland. I think if there was more garbage at the bottom of our league, we might have gotten 3 teams in.

(05-29-2017 10:51 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:18 PM)runamuck Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:49 AM)EigenEagle Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:40 AM)chiefsfan Wrote:  That's it. One big league. Radford replaces Coastal Carolina as Big South Champions, assuring us all the apocalypse is nigh.

Glad the NCAA left South Carolina out. They didn't deserve to make the field, and I was tired of the talking heads were trying to put them in. Ole Miss and Miami left out as well. That's the one redeeming quality of the baseball selection committee, they are not afraid of giving at large bids to non power conference schools.

I do think there are too many Big Ten teams in the tournament. I'm going to go ahead an guess that of the 5 that make the make the tournament at most 1 will win the regionals and they'll all be gone for the CWS.

BTW, the awesome and amazing CUSA only got two in, and that was because Rice stole a bid.

definitely a downer..southland got in two

Happens sometimes. There was a lot of parity in the Belt. We were a better conference than the Southland. I think if there was more garbage at the bottom of our league, we might have gotten 3 teams in.

Would have been very interesting if the Cajuns hadn't played one very poor OOC series if they would have been at at larger. I tend to think they would have but maybe that's wishful thinking.

(05-30-2017 11:39 AM)CajunAmos Wrote:  Would have been very interesting if the Cajuns hadn't played one very poor OOC series if they would have been at at larger. I tend to think they would have but maybe that's wishful thinking.

That St. Peter's series did you guys in.

When Troy swept ULM this season, who has a 256 RPI, Troy's RPI still fell from 98 to 111.

If you take out that St. Peter's series, ULL's RPI is probably in the mid-40's.