Another good showing for the ACC. I do think UVA should have gotten a Regional

Okay, time for a friendly dig. Glad to see the AAC keeps their tradition of underperforming in getting NCAA bids to the post season.

(05-29-2017 01:14 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:26 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  WVU gets their first at large bid in program history and first time back in the tourney in like 20 years

WVU's baseball program has gotten a major boost from being in the Big 12.

New stadium probably doesn't hurt either.

Which wouldn't exist without Big 12 money

(05-29-2017 01:43 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 01:14 PM)MissouriStateBears Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:26 PM)OldGoldnBlue Wrote:  WVU gets their first at large bid in program history and first time back in the tourney in like 20 years

WVU's baseball program has gotten a major boost from being in the Big 12.

New stadium probably doesn't hurt either.

Which wouldn't exist without Big 12 money

The fact that WVU is in the NCAA Baseball Tournament is a huge plus for the school if they start to shop conferences in a few years!

(05-29-2017 12:58 PM)3BNole Wrote:  3. Miami's streak is officially over. ..... After the bubble shrunk so much the past few days, there were was little doubt that they would be on the outside looking in.

FWIW, I was watching the SEC championship game yesterday and I figured Miami was probably going to get in "just because". Then when the announcers said that Oklahoma State shockingly won the Big 12 title, my first thought was "that knocks Miami out".

(05-29-2017 12:22 PM)3BNole Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 10:55 AM)3BNole Wrote:  Big college baseball fan here, traveled down to Clearwater this past week to watch the AAC tourney and see a few new teams. Houston looks the real deal to me. Not sure if they've got quite enough firepower to make the CWS, but I definitely think they'll be playing in the supers.

I'm incredibly relieved that we (FSU) won that game yesterday, probably sealed the deal with us getting a regional. Hard to believe that about 1.5wks ago there was serious concern that we may miss the tournament all-together. That what winning 5-straight games (3 over Louisville and 1 over UNC) will do for you though! I thought we were a lock to host after beating Duke, but I am glad that we managed to pull the game out yesterday because I had a sinking feeling the committee may get hung up on the conference record.

A little bit surprised that UVA isn't hosting with so many postseason teams in that area (West Virginia, maybe Maryland, Radford, etc) but not surprised at all the Houston got a nod. LBSU was on the hosting bubble as well, but knocked things out by beating CSF 2/3. A lot of sites projected Arizona hosting, which I thought was silly even before last week. There just aren't enough teams likely in the field out west this year for the committee to put 4 regionals west of the Rockies.

Really no major surprises thus far. I thought Texas would sneak in and steal a regional spot, but they fell in the Big 12 championship game which dashed those hopes.

Let's see what happens with the selection show!

FSU's failure to win a baseball national title despite all of the tournament appearances and WS appearances is one of the most astonishing facts in collegiate athletics.

It would be great for you guys to win this one.

Thanks! Yeah, that's a hard thing a lot of FSU baseball fans grapple with. I'm in the camp that would obviously love to win it all, but if I had to chose, would take consistency over one great season. There are just so many teams out there that get hot, win it all, and then fall into mediocrity.

That said, I don't think we'll win it while Martin is here. He's a great coach, one of the best in college baseball history, but his strategy for winning games just doesn't translate to the postseason. It's a shame because he's done a lot for the sport and it'd be a great story, but I just don't seen it happening before he hangs up the cleats in a year or two.

BTW, I enjoyed watching USF this past weekend! The AAC is a very good baseball conference, lots of great teams and got to see some really good games.

According to the NCAA and its Selection Committee we're not a good baseball conference. At all.

Conferences with multiple bids

8: SEC
7: ACC, Big 12
5: Big Ten
4: Pac-12
3: AAC
2: Big East, Big West, C-USA, MVC, Southland

Seven at-large bids awarded to teams outside the p5.

Florida Gulf Coast and Davidson are making their tournament debuts.

Holy Cross, Yale and West Virginia make their first appearances in at least two decades. Their previous bids were 1978 for Holy Cross, 1993 for Yale and 1996 for West Virginia.

(05-29-2017 03:54 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:22 PM)3BNole Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 10:55 AM)3BNole Wrote:  Big college baseball fan here, traveled down to Clearwater this past week to watch the AAC tourney and see a few new teams. Houston looks the real deal to me. Not sure if they've got quite enough firepower to make the CWS, but I definitely think they'll be playing in the supers.

I'm incredibly relieved that we (FSU) won that game yesterday, probably sealed the deal with us getting a regional. Hard to believe that about 1.5wks ago there was serious concern that we may miss the tournament all-together. That what winning 5-straight games (3 over Louisville and 1 over UNC) will do for you though! I thought we were a lock to host after beating Duke, but I am glad that we managed to pull the game out yesterday because I had a sinking feeling the committee may get hung up on the conference record.

A little bit surprised that UVA isn't hosting with so many postseason teams in that area (West Virginia, maybe Maryland, Radford, etc) but not surprised at all the Houston got a nod. LBSU was on the hosting bubble as well, but knocked things out by beating CSF 2/3. A lot of sites projected Arizona hosting, which I thought was silly even before last week. There just aren't enough teams likely in the field out west this year for the committee to put 4 regionals west of the Rockies.

Really no major surprises thus far. I thought Texas would sneak in and steal a regional spot, but they fell in the Big 12 championship game which dashed those hopes.

Let's see what happens with the selection show!

FSU's failure to win a baseball national title despite all of the tournament appearances and WS appearances is one of the most astonishing facts in collegiate athletics.

It would be great for you guys to win this one.

Thanks! Yeah, that's a hard thing a lot of FSU baseball fans grapple with. I'm in the camp that would obviously love to win it all, but if I had to chose, would take consistency over one great season. There are just so many teams out there that get hot, win it all, and then fall into mediocrity.

That said, I don't think we'll win it while Martin is here. He's a great coach, one of the best in college baseball history, but his strategy for winning games just doesn't translate to the postseason. It's a shame because he's done a lot for the sport and it'd be a great story, but I just don't seen it happening before he hangs up the cleats in a year or two.

BTW, I enjoyed watching USF this past weekend! The AAC is a very good baseball conference, lots of great teams and got to see some really good games.

According to the NCAA and its Selection Committee we're not a good baseball conference. At all.

I have to agree. I was surprised that UCONN didn't make the field. Seeing them play in person, and having watched college baseball all over the country the past several years, I can say that I felt that they were certainly playing on a postseason level. Their pitching and batting were decent, but their fundamentals and fielding are what really impressed me. I figured with their resume and being a northern, non-traditional team of sorts, they stood a good chance to get into the tourney. Overall the committee did a pretty good job, but leaving UCONN out in favor of a couple of the other teams that got in was a little surprising. What was really more surprising to me though was them not even being listed as one of the first four out. Makes me wonder if someone lost the paper with their name on it!

(05-29-2017 04:00 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Conferences with multiple bids

8: SEC (deserved maybe 7)
7: ACC, Big 12 (about right)
5: Big Ten (please? At least 3 are charity)
4: Pac-12 (under represented)
3: AAC (3? maybe more)
2: Big East, Big West, C-USA, MVC, Southland (under represented)

Seven at-large bids awarded to teams outside the p5.

Florida Gulf Coast and Davidson are making their tournament debuts.

Holy Cross, Yale and West Virginia make their first appearances in at least two decades. Their previous bids were 1978 for Holy Cross, 1993 for Yale and 1996 for West Virginia.

I think they should go ahead and cap the major conferences at 6 (maybe 7). They should do the same in basketball, softball and any other tournament format.

They should move to a field of 72 in baseball with a 1 game play in the week before involving the last 16, so starting pitching can rest before regional play.

The regions look pretty competitive but in baseball in particular the smaller schools can field some really competitive teams and they as a whole are under represented in this tournament.

(05-29-2017 04:00 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Conferences with multiple bids

8: SEC
7: ACC, Big 12
5: Big Ten
4: Pac-12
3: AAC
2: Big East, Big West, C-USA, MVC, Southland

Seven at-large bids awarded to teams outside the p5.

Florida Gulf Coast and Davidson are making their tournament debuts.

Holy Cross, Yale and West Virginia make their first appearances in at least two decades. Their previous bids were 1978 for Holy Cross, 1993 for Yale and 1996 for West Virginia.

The PAC12 and Big West used to be dominate forces in baseball. Recognize that Oregon St is the overall #1 seed, but western baseball seems to have really fallen off the pace overall.

UK vs UofL Super Regional would make for an incredible atmosphere

(05-29-2017 06:25 PM)NoDak Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 04:00 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Conferences with multiple bids

8: SEC
7: ACC, Big 12
5: Big Ten
4: Pac-12
3: AAC
2: Big East, Big West, C-USA, MVC, Southland

Seven at-large bids awarded to teams outside the p5.

Florida Gulf Coast and Davidson are making their tournament debuts.

Holy Cross, Yale and West Virginia make their first appearances in at least two decades. Their previous bids were 1978 for Holy Cross, 1993 for Yale and 1996 for West Virginia.

The PAC12 and Big West used to be dominate forces in baseball. Recognize that Oregon St is the overall #1 seed, but western baseball seems to have really fallen off the pace overall.

I think what happened is about 25 years ago, the SEC started to invest in baseball. Since then, the balance of power has spread from the west to include the deep south.

I say "include" and not "shifted" because the PAC is still a dominant force in college baseball. But the west coast doesn't own it like it did before 1990, when college baseball was basically the PAC, CS-Fullerton, Miami, and Texas.

(05-29-2017 05:04 PM)3BNole Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 03:54 PM)DefCONNOne Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:22 PM)3BNole Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 11:42 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 10:55 AM)3BNole Wrote:  Big college baseball fan here, traveled down to Clearwater this past week to watch the AAC tourney and see a few new teams. Houston looks the real deal to me. Not sure if they've got quite enough firepower to make the CWS, but I definitely think they'll be playing in the supers.

I'm incredibly relieved that we (FSU) won that game yesterday, probably sealed the deal with us getting a regional. Hard to believe that about 1.5wks ago there was serious concern that we may miss the tournament all-together. That what winning 5-straight games (3 over Louisville and 1 over UNC) will do for you though! I thought we were a lock to host after beating Duke, but I am glad that we managed to pull the game out yesterday because I had a sinking feeling the committee may get hung up on the conference record.

A little bit surprised that UVA isn't hosting with so many postseason teams in that area (West Virginia, maybe Maryland, Radford, etc) but not surprised at all the Houston got a nod. LBSU was on the hosting bubble as well, but knocked things out by beating CSF 2/3. A lot of sites projected Arizona hosting, which I thought was silly even before last week. There just aren't enough teams likely in the field out west this year for the committee to put 4 regionals west of the Rockies.

Really no major surprises thus far. I thought Texas would sneak in and steal a regional spot, but they fell in the Big 12 championship game which dashed those hopes.

Let's see what happens with the selection show!

FSU's failure to win a baseball national title despite all of the tournament appearances and WS appearances is one of the most astonishing facts in collegiate athletics.

It would be great for you guys to win this one.

Thanks! Yeah, that's a hard thing a lot of FSU baseball fans grapple with. I'm in the camp that would obviously love to win it all, but if I had to chose, would take consistency over one great season. There are just so many teams out there that get hot, win it all, and then fall into mediocrity.

That said, I don't think we'll win it while Martin is here. He's a great coach, one of the best in college baseball history, but his strategy for winning games just doesn't translate to the postseason. It's a shame because he's done a lot for the sport and it'd be a great story, but I just don't seen it happening before he hangs up the cleats in a year or two.

BTW, I enjoyed watching USF this past weekend! The AAC is a very good baseball conference, lots of great teams and got to see some really good games.

According to the NCAA and its Selection Committee we're not a good baseball conference. At all.

I have to agree. I was surprised that UCONN didn't make the field. Seeing them play in person, and having watched college baseball all over the country the past several years, I can say that I felt that they were certainly playing on a postseason level. Their pitching and batting were decent, but their fundamentals and fielding are what really impressed me. I figured with their resume and being a northern, non-traditional team of sorts, they stood a good chance to get into the tourney. Overall the committee did a pretty good job, but leaving UCONN out in favor of a couple of the other teams that got in was a little surprising. What was really more surprising to me though was them not even being listed as one of the first four out. Makes me wonder if someone lost the paper with their name on it!

They were on the First Four Out list. It was them, Miami (FL), Old Dominion and South Carolina.

(05-29-2017 04:00 PM)jdgaucho Wrote:  Conferences with multiple bids

8: SEC
7: ACC, Big 12
5: Big Ten
4: Pac-12
3: AAC
2: Big East, Big West, C-USA, MVC, Southland

Also 8 for the SWC. (All 8 programs that played baseball, including Arkansas.)

(05-29-2017 03:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:58 PM)3BNole Wrote:  3. Miami's streak is officially over. ..... After the bubble shrunk so much the past few days, there were was little doubt that they would be on the outside looking in.

FWIW, I was watching the SEC championship game yesterday and I figured Miami was probably going to get in "just because". Then when the announcers said that Oklahoma State shockingly won the Big 12 title, my first thought was "that knocks Miami out".

You could also make the case that Rice winning the CUSA tourney auto-bid and thereby extending our NCAA streak to 23 years (now third-best) could have been the one that knocked Miami out. Those who haven't been following closely might not have realized it but for the first time in probably 21 years we weren't an at-large lock going into the conference tourney. Our RPI was at least bubble worthy, but if we hadn't won the CUSA final we'd have been ineligible for at-large at .500 (against one of the nation's toughest schedules, though). We are on a tear right now and despite only moderate pitching depth, have the pieces to make a deep run. 6 weeks ago we were tied for dead last in CUSA. We didn't clinch top 8 to even make the CUSA tourney until the final regular season weekend. Yet... we are just over .500 at 31-29 but also 6-6 against the regional hosts and 8-8 against RPI top 25. And apparently pretty motivated to avenge our exit from the Baton Rouge regional last year.
Great time of year. Glad we're still playing.
Sorry Miami.

(05-31-2017 07:52 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 03:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:58 PM)3BNole Wrote:  3. Miami's streak is officially over. ..... After the bubble shrunk so much the past few days, there were was little doubt that they would be on the outside looking in.

FWIW, I was watching the SEC championship game yesterday and I figured Miami was probably going to get in "just because". Then when the announcers said that Oklahoma State shockingly won the Big 12 title, my first thought was "that knocks Miami out".

You could also make the case that Rice winning the CUSA tourney auto-bid and thereby extending our NCAA streak to 23 years (now third-best) could have been the one that knocked Miami out. Those who haven't been following closely might not have realized it but for the first time in probably 21 years we weren't an at-large lock going into the conference tourney. Our RPI was at least bubble worthy, but if we hadn't won the CUSA final we'd have been ineligible for at-large at .500 (against one of the nation's toughest schedules, though). We are on a tear right now and despite only moderate pitching depth, have the pieces to make a deep run. 6 weeks ago we were tied for dead last in CUSA. We didn't clinch top 8 to even make the CUSA tourney until the final regular season weekend. Yet... we are just over .500 at 31-29 but also 6-6 against the regional hosts and 8-8 against RPI top 25. And apparently pretty motivated to avenge our exit from the Baton Rouge regional last year.
Great time of year. Glad we're still playing.
Sorry Miami.

I live in Baton Rouge, and I can tell you that there is always respect around here for Rice baseball. LSU fans are well aware of Rice's excellent winning tradition, which like LSU's basically dates from the early 1990s and has kind of mirrored theirs, and know winning the regional won't be easy with Rice in the field - it sure wasn't last year.

FWIW, the Baton Rouge Advocate covers baseball almost to the extent it covers LSU football, and while they clearly root for LSU they are also objective in their reporting (if that makes sense, LOL) so if you want good coverage of the regional from a BR point of view, check it out:

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/s...ab7d0.html

(05-31-2017 08:32 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-31-2017 07:52 AM)owl at the moon Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 03:42 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-29-2017 12:58 PM)3BNole Wrote:  3. Miami's streak is officially over. ..... After the bubble shrunk so much the past few days, there were was little doubt that they would be on the outside looking in.

FWIW, I was watching the SEC championship game yesterday and I figured Miami was probably going to get in "just because". Then when the announcers said that Oklahoma State shockingly won the Big 12 title, my first thought was "that knocks Miami out".

You could also make the case that Rice winning the CUSA tourney auto-bid and thereby extending our NCAA streak to 23 years (now third-best) could have been the one that knocked Miami out. Those who haven't been following closely might not have realized it but for the first time in probably 21 years we weren't an at-large lock going into the conference tourney. Our RPI was at least bubble worthy, but if we hadn't won the CUSA final we'd have been ineligible for at-large at .500 (against one of the nation's toughest schedules, though). We are on a tear right now and despite only moderate pitching depth, have the pieces to make a deep run. 6 weeks ago we were tied for dead last in CUSA. We didn't clinch top 8 to even make the CUSA tourney until the final regular season weekend. Yet... we are just over .500 at 31-29 but also 6-6 against the regional hosts and 8-8 against RPI top 25. And apparently pretty motivated to avenge our exit from the Baton Rouge regional last year.
Great time of year. Glad we're still playing.
Sorry Miami.

I live in Baton Rouge, and I can tell you that there is always respect around here for Rice baseball. LSU fans are well aware of Rice's excellent winning tradition, which like LSU's basically dates from the early 1990s and has kind of mirrored theirs, and know winning the regional won't be easy with Rice in the field - it sure wasn't last year.

FWIW, the Baton Rouge Advocate covers baseball almost to the extent it covers LSU football, and while they clearly root for LSU they are also objective in their reporting (if that makes sense, LOL) so if you want good coverage of the regional from a BR point of view, check it out:

http://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/s...ab7d0.html

We've definitely enjoyed the rivalry over the years with LSU.

Thanks for the tip and the link. We will take solid, objective coverage of Rice sports anywhere we can find it. Not really easy to find such in our home state or city, even (!). Looking forward to this regional... and we wish all the best of luck to the Tigers this year... in football(!)

First Regional started today, on account of BYU.

If BYU were to make it to the IF game, the schedule would be Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Monday.


Don't really think it is fair to the other three teams to have to work around BYU's restrictions. In basketball, it is easy, since there are scheduled Thurs/Saturday Brackets.

Fullerton crushes BYU 13-2.

Stanford taking on Sacramento State, 1-0 Stanford after 1

Stanford shuts out Sac State 10-0.

All other Regionals start today