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(05-28-2017 11:16 PM)exowlswimmer Wrote:  I certainly hope we bid for a Super! If (weafux ignore) we win out and anybody but Tech (or whoever we are paired with) loses, does the higher bid or only bid get the Super?

In a really high level view, both teams that win a Regional are allowed to submit Super Regional bids. Assuming that the facilities are minimally qualifying, a bid from a national seed is automatically awarded. If the national seed in a Regional pairing doesn't win but the opposite Regional host does, that host's bid is automatically awarded. I don't believe that either team can be compelled to submit a bid, but there's never been a situation where neither team was willing and able to host. The only time anybody has ever forfeited the right to host a Super was 2015 when #8 Missouri State, who plays in a minor league ballpark, didn't have an available field for the Super Regional dates. That series was hosted instead by Arkansas, who had won the Stillwater Regional as the 2 seed. In that case, even against a national seed, Arkansas was treated fully as the host team (first choice of ticket sales, batting bottom side in the first and third games, etc).

To answer your question directly, if neither of the paired Regional hosts wins their Regional, both Regional-winning teams may submit bids for equal consideration. The Super Regional is awarded to whichever team the NCAA thinks will the contribute the most revenue to the tournament in the forms of tickets, concessions, merchandise, and straight cash payment.

As a hypothetical, if there is ever a year that a non-host Rice and non-host UH win paired Regionals, the Super Regional would probably be awarded to whichever school puts up the most cash since our stadiums don't differ much in capacity and you can be certain that all the seats will sell.
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05-28-2017 11:33 PM
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D1 Baseball has the same UH regional as Baseball America. But interestingly, they have Texas A&M as the first team left out of the field of 64.
05-29-2017 01:35 AM
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(05-29-2017 01:35 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  D1 Baseball has the same UH regional as Baseball America. But interestingly, they have Texas A&M as the first team left out of the field of 64.

Unless I missed it, Miami was left out as well.
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(05-29-2017 07:07 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:35 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  D1 Baseball has the same UH regional as Baseball America. But interestingly, they have Texas A&M as the first team left out of the field of 64.

Unless I missed it, Miami was left out as well.

Nebraska is Big 10 regular season champ and has an RPI of 44. They could bump Miami (RPI = 41) out.
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(05-29-2017 07:44 AM)temchugh Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 07:07 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 01:35 AM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  D1 Baseball has the same UH regional as Baseball America. But interestingly, they have Texas A&M as the first team left out of the field of 64.

Unless I missed it, Miami was left out as well.

Nebraska is Big 10 regular season champ and has an RPI of 44. They could bump Miami (RPI = 41) out.

Based on past history, while RPI rules in selecting national seeds and regional hosts, other criteria factor in more heavily in selecting at large bids (e.g., conference record and standing, record vs. Top 50/100, record over last 10-20 games).
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I'm glad we went with Plan A (win) and so don't have to wait and hope like Miami.
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(05-29-2017 08:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I'm glad we went with Plan A (win) and so don't have to wait and hope like Miami.

Again, had we lost we would not have qualified for the post-season as at large selections MUST have a record ABOVE .500 (and we would have finished exactly on the .500 mark).
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(05-29-2017 08:05 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 08:00 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I'm glad we went with Plan A (win) and so don't have to wait and hope like Miami.

Again, had we lost we would not have qualified for the post-season as at large selections MUST have a record ABOVE .500 (and we would have finished exactly on the .500 mark).

True, I agree. But many here were and would be hoping that something would make the committee say, oh, what the heck, let's invite Rice, and they would be waiting for the announcement to see if the miracle happened. Just look back at all the discussion that we had Saturday and Sunday morning about ways in if we lost. Miami, OTOH, like ODU and many others, are waiting with bated breath to see if they are in or out. Much better to have controlled our own fate, which this team is doing now.
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Assuming hypothetically the Baseball America regionals, if Rice wins the UH regional and Tech wins the Tech regional, then Tech hosts the super if able and willing (which they clearly are). If Rice wins the UH regional and anybody other than Tech wins the Tech regional, then we would have the bidding war situation, and Rice should be well situated to win that.
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(05-29-2017 08:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Assuming hypothetically the Baseball America regionals, if Rice wins the UH regional and Tech wins the Tech regional, then Tech hosts the super if able and willing (which they clearly are). If Rice wins the UH regional and anybody other than Tech wins the Tech regional, then we would have the bidding war situation, and Rice should be well situated to win that.

Doesn't the Super automatically go to the higher seed, if able?
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Neither D1 nor BA have us paired with LSU regional. I hope that stands. TT looks to have the easier of the two regionals.
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(05-29-2017 08:28 AM)waltgreenberg Wrote:  
(05-29-2017 08:25 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Assuming hypothetically the Baseball America regionals, if Rice wins the UH regional and Tech wins the Tech regional, then Tech hosts the super if able and willing (which they clearly are). If Rice wins the UH regional and anybody other than Tech wins the Tech regional, then we would have the bidding war situation, and Rice should be well situated to win that.

Doesn't the Super automatically go to the higher seed, if able?

I know it goes automatically to the #1 seed. But my understanding is that facility plays into it if neither team is a #1 seed. I seem to recall a time or two when UCLA had to go on the road because Jackie Robinson Stadium seats only 1800 or so. That may have been for regionals other than supers, but I think the same principle applies to both.

Using the BA pairings, it would probably be a moot point. If Missouri State as the #2 seed won the Tech regional, they play in a AA minor league stadium that seats 8,000 (Hammons Field, a very nice facility, by the way) and the Springfield Cardinals are on the road the weekend of supers, so they would almost certainly get the nod over Rice. If Sam or Central CT won in Lubbock, Rice would surely get the nod over either of them.
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Appears to be a rainy week in Houston, not sure we want to mess with rain delays.
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